yes congratulations you found a few SILLY and i suppose you'd say trivial threads on jpe. kudos. however, look a little more often....might find something of substance b4 you go running your mouth http://www.jonathanpeters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30193 http://www.jonathanpeters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28854 http://www.jonathanpeters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29184 http://www.jonathanpeters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29188