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  1. You're a victim dude...........

    Since I KNOW you did not open bigpoops link to ACTUALLY read the actual US GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT, apparently you're the victim, banana boy.

    http://www.dod.gov/transcripts/2005/tr20050901-3843.html

    Special Defense Department Briefing with Commander of Joint Task Force Katrina

    (Via Satellite Telephone)

    MR. WHITMAN: General Honoré, this is Bryan Whitman. Can you hear me?

    GEN. HONORE: Good morning, Mr. Whitman. This is Lieutenant General Honoré, and I can hear you loud and clear, sir.

    MR. WHITMAN: Very good. Well, again, General, thank you very much for joining us this morning.

    For those of you here in the Pentagon, this is Army Lieutenant General Russel Honoré, who is the commander of the 1st Army at Ft. Gilliam (sic), Georgia, and he's the current commander, of course, of Joint Task Force Katrina. And he's coming to us via satellite telephone from the Gulfport Regional Airport this morning, where he's going to give you a brief overview of what Defense Department support to state, local and federal officials have been that are involved in this relief effort, and then he is prepared to take a couple of your questions. So we won't keep him long. We know he's very busy, and we appreciate the time that he's given us.

    General Honoré, with that, I'll let you start.

    GEN. HONORÉ: Good morning.

    Our mission is to establish the JTF and provide command and control of DOD assets in the joint operational area that's been affected and defined by the catastrophic event that's happened in Mississippi and in Louisiana, and as established by Northern Command for disaster relief efforts in association with the Hurricane Katrina.

    Our current situation is -- we're running our priority work in the JOA currently as established by the governor and Director Brown -- is to do search and rescue, as well as provide life-saving operations in the area of ensuring that people that need medical care get transported to hospitals, and to conduct sustainment operations to provide water and fuel -- or food to individuals that have been isolated and need to push supplies to them. That has been our effort and continues to be our priority of work, as well as assist the Louisiana unified group -- the National Guard and FEMA and the other agencies -- in conducting the evacuation of individuals from New Orleans to the Astrodome in Houston. We have assisted in their planning as well as providing assistance where possible in affecting that operation.

    And a current situation update, what's happening right now, is to continue our life-saving operations, focusing on doing search and rescue. As you would know, starting in Mississippi from the area of the Gulf of Mississippi north to -- by three miles, most of the infrastructure is destroyed. North of that line to I-20 in Mississippi, much is severely damaged in terms of infrastructure, homes and communications, and electricity. So the efforts in Mississippi remain the same, and we continue to build the same capabilities to push food and water to distribution centers as well as to continue the search-and-rescue operation. But I want to emphasize much of the Mississippi coastline was destroyed. That being said, a major effort is required there. It's a much larger area than Louisiana and a lot more isolated small communities that have to be re-supplied, and that's our major effort.

    In New Orleans, the primary threat to the people is the flooding, which prohibits surface transportation, with isolated communities that are surrounded with water up to five to six feet in many communities. Thus, those people have been evacuated in most cases to the Superdome area, and many of them are on high streets, and there's a part of the population that took refuge in high buildings. And we're in the process now of -- in support of Louisiana in the movement of people by bus from the vicinity of the Superdome to the Astrodome in Houston.

    We continue to build our capability. I will first start with the landside. The major effort is in support of the National Guard. The National Guard force's current boots on the ground in Louisiana is 4,700, approximately. And in Mississippi, the approximate number today is 2,700.

    By the end of the day, the boots on the ground in Louisiana, Louisiana National Guardsmen, will be approximately 7,400. And by the end of the day in Mississippi, there will be approximately 6,000. And by tomorrow, the boots on the ground of National Guardsmen in Louisiana will be approximately 8,600 and in Mississippi 9,500. For our total strength over the next three days, we intend to have approximately 12,000 troops on the ground in Louisiana and 12,000 troops on the ground in Mississippi. That capability is on the road as we speak, flowing to Mississippi and Louisiana.

    Our major effort, again, in Louisiana is to focus in and around the New Orleans area and the sub-communities in continuing to flow out the people that are ambulatory and those requiring medical care. Between 1500 (3 p.m.) yesterday afternoon and midnight last, we had flown approximately 600 patients from the Superdome area to area hospitals for onward movement and care. We're continuing that effort this morning. We have increased our capability with helicopters. We have -- two battalions from Fort Hood arrived yesterday that's in that effort. That effort is being led by the United States Coast Guard and the Louisiana National Guard, who are coordinating the effort to synchronize the helicopters and their distribution of those patients, in support of the health and human service element that's a part of the Louisiana task force.

    That flow worked well, and as of last night, the evacuation of New Orleans begun, and it is continuing as we speak. The governor of Louisiana, for -- whom I had a chance to met twice yesterday, as well as Director Brown, marshaled her school buses from throughout the state and sent them in and as a part of the transport means to take the citizens to Houston, Texas, to the Astrodome, as well as 500 buses from FEMA. As of yesterday, we had part of those buses on hand, and they started moving citizens last evening. And that operation will continue until we evacuate that population from New Orleans to the Astrodome.

    And that plan is working. Security is being provided at that location by the mayor of New Orleans and the New Orleans police department, as well as the National Guard.

    I met twice with the mayor yesterday, and we collaborated with the state as well as with the unified command of FEMA and the other agencies in developing the plan and the beginning of the execution of that plan last night. And we couldn't do this too soon. As most of you have seen, it is a trying situation, at best. And the enormity of the task is significant in the care of, feeding and providing water, and that need is being met by the tremendous efforts of our lead federal agency, FEMA. It takes time as you might expect, and the numbers in New Orleans are roughly around 60,000 people. And the majority of them -- a large number of them are at the Superdome, but people are still scattered in their communities in isolated areas. That's our basic land and helicopter operation.

    We have significant naval presence. The Bataan is present off the coast of Louisiana. I have just ordered Bataan to move to Biloxi and to support the operations in Mississippi. As I have additional helicopters that arrived yesterday from Fort Hood who will reinforce the operation in Louisiana, our challenge remains the Broad Street damage. And again, it could be characterized in Mississippi as a large area with isolated pockets, and the equal challenge in New Orleans of a concentrated area that is flooded. By in large, you have dry conditions in Mississippi, but the challenge is the dispersion. In Louisiana, it's a concentration of people in a small area, and the streets are flooded. So they have to seek refuge in high buildings and in the Superdome. That operation is at its best a sustainment operation of sustaining life and taking care of the critically injured and wounded.

    The subject to your questions, I wanted to make sure that you understand that this is a total effort to include our air elements. The United States Air Force is decisively engaged in providing assets in terms of strategic lifts, to bring in units, as well as capability, and those are flowing as we speak. Our primary re-supply areas into Mississippi is the Gulfport Airport and Meridian, and in Louisiana it's the Belle Chasse Airport and the New Orleans International Airport.

    A significant operation by the United States Coast Guard in search and rescue as well as the Coast Guard, under Admiral Duncan, is providing the initial air command and control of the helicopters; that's doing the search and rescue and the evac of the citizens who are ill from the Superdome.

    And again, subject to your questions, I have about 10 minutes as I have to move to New Orleans and link up with the TAG (the Adjutant General) of Mississippi, the governor of the -- the mayor of New Orleans and the chief FEMA rep. in New Orleans to complete the coordination and to see how we can assist them more in the evacuation and the sustainment operations. Over.

    MR. WHITMAN: All right. We'll get into a few questions here. Let's start with Charlie.

    Q General, just a couple of quick questions. When you said 24,000 will be in Alabama -- I mean, Mississippi and Louisiana in the next three days, we understand that the total of about 30,000 will be in the four states including Alabama and Florida in the coming days, how many of those in Alabama and Mississippi will be military police? And what are their rules of engagement for looters and that kind of thing? We understand some helicopters were fired at today.

    GEN. HONORÉ: To answer the first part of that question, they have remained under rules of engagement as established by the government of the states, and those rules are established and passed down through the TAG. That is the process. What is the specific rule in each state is -- what I've heard is to protect property and to protect yourself. But at this point in time, that presence normally ward off the perpetrators, those who wish to conduct looting or other illicit operations. But those are under state law, and that is the way that is being conducted at this time.

    And what was the second part of your question, sir?

    Q Just two quick ones. We understand that a total of about 30,000 Guard will be in the four states. You say 24,000 in Mississippi and Louisiana. How many of those in Mississippi and Louisiana will be police, military police?

    GEN. HONORÉ: Sir, I don't have those numbers in front of me, but I will defer to my good friend Steve Blum (Lieut. Gen. Steven Blum – Chief, National Guard Bureau), who has that. And I will follow up with you within a few minutes and get that to you.

    But there is a major effort in Louisiana for security-type forces. And I will tell you that the majority of them right now -- Louisiana has 4,700 of its own National Guard committed to that effort. And the majority of the force flow -- there will be 1,400 additional security forces in Louisiana today, with an additional 1,400 tomorrow are on that force flow buildup, as I gave it to you. But we will get that to you in detail within a few minutes, sir.

    It's fair to say the majority of the forces going to Louisiana are security-type forces, sir.

    MR. WHITMAN: All right. Let's go over here to Jamie and then over to -- (off mike).

    Q General, Jamie McIntyre from CNN. To what extent is this additional assistance you've outlined today a response to a request from the state governors in Louisiana, Mississippi? And if so, can you tell us when specifically you got that request?

    GEN. HONORÉ: Yes, sir. The process starts, sir, in this particular event, with a request Friday of last week, as the approximate date for defense coordinating offices to be established in Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana. Those were established in those states over Friday and Saturday.

    Q Sir, I'm specifically interested in how soon after the hurricane hit and the extent of the damage became known did the governors request additional assistance above and beyond what they had requested before?

    GEN. HONORÉ: Sir, that started to happen on Saturday, as the hurricane was approaching, and was executed with the movement of my headquarters on Sunday to Mississippi, where we established a joint -- JTF headquarters here in Mississippi with a forward cell of the 5th United States Army in Louisiana. And on Sunday we established JTF-Katrina, with myself as the task force commander.

    And since that time, we've continued to flow naval air and Army helicopter support and other assets, as requested by the governor, through FEMA. And that is the process, and you know that works. The governor identified a requirement. It goes to FEMA. That requirement is sent to Northern Command, my boss, Admiral Keating, as parallel to General McNeill at Forces Command. And we have started to flow the forces to your region. Over.

    MR. DI RITA: You know -- it's Larry DiRita -- I think what people are interested in, if you know, is when specifically or if indeed did the governors specifically ask for additional security forces and when that might have been? And if you don't know that, we'll try and find it, but that would be -- I think that's a little more refined aspect of what the reporter's asking for.

    GEN. HONORÉ: Yeah, that was incremental. The security force piece was executed through a process called EMAC. That started on Sunday, a collaboration between the adjutant general and the National Guard Bureau to flow additional capabilities to Louisiana and to Mississippi. That flow started approximately around Sunday. Forces started moving once the eye of the hurricane had passed and we could start moving forces in and assist the states, Alabama pushed forces into Mississippi as well as forces from Texas started to flow into Louisiana, as well as other states. But that's the approximate phase of the operation. Again, that was executed through National Guard arrangements to move National Guard capability where it's needed. And that is what is happening, an extension of that, now.

    The DOD capability was based on requests that came from FEMA for additional ability to assist in search and rescue, and that was called a mission assignment. Those started on Sunday. And we were here on Sunday, and by Monday, the Bataan was present, as well as federal helicopters started arriving Monday to assist in the search and rescue and the sustainment operation, that that is the timeline as it was executed in the process.

    Any more specifics on that? Over.

    Q No, that's fine.

    MR. DI RITA: (Off mike) -- General. Thank you.

    MR. WHITMAN: Tom?

    Q General, you've described the National Guard role in security and law enforcement support. Is there any planning for active duty troops to join that mission, or would that not be possible given legal restrictions?

    GEN. HONORÉ: Well, I think that's a question you know the answer to. (Laughs.) But to tell you, we are in support of the National Guard. They work the security mission as described by law in the Constitution under their governor, and we are currently providing support to them in enabling capabilities in air, capability in search and rescue, surface and air, as well as seaborne capability. We have two LCACs (landing craft air cushioned), naval assault vehicles, coming in. We'll put those in the littorals around New Orleans to help re-supply and to move people within the next 12 hours.

    So we are providing a capability to assist them in the lifesaving as well as the sustainment operation of moving supplies and providing medical assistance. We have two Air Force hospitals, one in Louisiana and one in Mississippi, that are established, and those are working for the states in support of those two efforts. But that's a total effort.

    Over.

    MR. WHITMAN: I think we have time for just one more. Brian?

    Q General, if my numbers are correct, there are more Louisiana and Mississippi Guard troops deployed overseas than there are actually mobilized in those states right now. How, if at all, has that affected the speed of response to this disaster?

    GEN. HONORÉ: Well, being one of the guys who helped train those troops, I must say that you're almost right in your numbers, sir. The 155 Brigade from Mississippi deployed approximately 2,200 Mississippians, who are serving, as you know, proudly in -- forward on the battlefield now. The remainder of that brigade came from other states.

    And in the case of the Louisiana brigade, the number's approximately the same, around 2,200 from Louisiana with -- that left Louisiana; 4,700 from the Louisiana National Guard that are employed in Louisiana as we speak.

    Over.

    Q You know, I guess what I'm asking is, how -- having that many forces out of the States, does that in any way affect the ability to respond to the needs on the ground in the hurricane zone over the last few days?

    GEN. HONORÉ: I would say the ability to build the forces here from the sistering states helped minimize that. But it would be somewhat of a stretch on my part to say how much that has affected, based on the nature of the disaster as the way it struck. Mississippi still has 2,700 of its citizen soldiers available for use in the state as we speak.

    So when you look at how the Guard deploys inside the states, there were -- probably had some impact. But that is why the entire DOD effort was to push stuff here, as well as General Blum, who was working contingencies with the TAGs. All last week we were collaborating on developing options. None of us, nobody was clairvoyant enough to foresee the damage that was going to be brought by this storm. So it was off the worst-case scenario that any of us might have envisioned it happening.

    And I think that being said, we have the force flow, and the capability will get stronger every day. And there's nothing we can do but continue to work that and realize that there are a lot of people who need help, and our job is to try and bring that help to them working in support of the state agencies and the lead federal agency, FEMA.

    Over.

    MR. WHITMAN: General, we've already gone by the time that you said that you had for this. And I know you need to get off to a meeting. So we'll bring this to a close. We appreciate the time you've given us this morning, and we hope to be back in touch with you soon so that we can get further updates from you. Thank you very much.

    GEN. HONORÉ: Thank you. Have a good day.

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    http://www.dod.gov/transcripts/2005/tr20050901-3843.html

    Again, you're owned.

    Keep believing the anti-American vomit Newsmax spews from their rotted cunts. Keep dismissing this US doc as "liberal media" or "spam" and accept the propaganda as fact when fact is actually within the actual government document because your belief system is stuck in reverse.

    Get back on the boat.

  2. GOD YOU'RE DUMB!

    IT WAS PHOTOSHOPED .....?

    BRUTO! IMBESIL!

    Besides, what does that tell you? That Bush has a penis which he drains from time to time?

    You're so juvenile.

    Reuters Says Bush Photo Not 'Malicious,' Reports Wide Interest at Home and Abroad

    By E&P Staff

    Published: September 15, 2005 4:30 PM ET updated 11:30 PM

    NEW YORK With confirmation that an accidental photo of President Bush at the United Nations on Wednesday, writing a note to Secretary of State Condeezza Rice about a “bathroom break,†was indeed real, newspapers around the U.S. and abroad are now planning to run it widely. But many, it seems, will treat it as something more than a joke.

    A source at the Washington Post tells E&P that the paper is considering it for prominent play, in the context that, at least in some minds, it raises questions about overall perception of the U.S. at the United Nations, right or wrong. Reuters reports extremely strong interest in the photo today.

    The fact is, according to Reuters -- and this has not been widely reported -- President Bush did indeed take a bathroom break after passing the note to Rice.

    This apparently raised some eyebrows around the room, because American representatives (among others) have a reputation for suddenly bolting, though normally for a far different reason than this latest one. Fair or not, the European press has already had a field day with the photo, often centering on the notion that Bush had to ask Rice for permission.

    The Times of London, for example, ran no less than three separate articles about it on its Web site, one at the top of its front page. (It's a Murdoch paper.) One headline reads: "Excuse me Condi, can I go to the bathroom?" Another story, believe it or not, opens: "The need to relieve oneself diplomatically has on occasion determined the fate of nations." The third discusses the sordid history of the particulatar lavatory in question, and contains this passage: "Medical experts said that the 59-year-old President was wise not to wait any longer."

    The headline at the BBC news site suggested that Bush had been "caught short" at the U.N. summit. From The Sun: "I fear a leak, Condi." The Irish Examiner headline? "To Pee or Not to Pee, That is the Question." Der Spiegel in Germany translated "a bathroom break" as "eine Toiletten-Pause."

    And, of course, it made The Daily Show back in the U.S. late Thursday night. On Friday morning, Newsday chortled: "Photographer leaks Bush potty idea." The Minneapolis Star-Tribune headlined: "Bush note inspires bathroom humor."

    Gary Hershorn, news editor-photos for the Americas at Reuters, told E&P today that the photographer, Rick Wilking, informed him yesterday afternoon that he had observed Bush pass the note to Rice, and a little later, rise from his seat, leave the room, and then return.

    And while some have suggested that Wilking, a well-known photographer just back from taking some of the most gripping images in New Orleans, was out to embarrass the president, Hershorn said that the photojournalist had no idea what Bush was writing on the paper. Wilking assumed the president was taking notes on what some other official was saying.

    “Rick had no idea what he was shooting, or what Bush was writing,†Hershorn said. “If Rick knew what he was writing we'd have 25 pictures of this, not two.â€

    The photo was taken at 12:08 p.m. and it was Hershorn, about three hours later, who took the trouble to examine the photo closely. It was only then that he noticed the writing and decided to put it on the wire after 4:00.

    The photo, as E&P observed Wednesday night in the first story about the incident, shows Bush scribbling in pencil on a note that already holds the words: "I think I may need a bathroom break? Is this possible." Wilking is a veteran Washington photographer who has long covered Bush campaigns and the White House.

    As for transmitting the photo, Hershorn says, "There was no malicious intent. That's not what we do."

    There's a simple explanation, even a serious one, for all of this, he adds. Bush, he points out, is not used to attending meetings at the U.N. and probably did not know what the protocol was for exiting a room and returning. His question to Rice was “proper†and not all that surprising, “asking someone with more experience there about protocol,†he said.

    Wilking told Gelf magazine today that he has not yet heard from the president—whom he says he knows very well—about the note. “I’m curious to know what the White House thinks,†Wilking said.

    Yup. It was photoshopped. /sarcasm

    (unless you live in either Texas or Florida)

    Keep swinging on Bush's dick. Tell Fidel the news.

    Havana another banana spic.

  3. first igloo put you in your place..

    then i came and continued the ownage

    now this guy dr.logic is eating all the pieces and spitting them into the toilet

    :laugh::laugh:

    i kinda feel bad for you..never seen someone get so OWNED on a messageboard.

    *Thinks to self* Although Headpusher tries, it doesn't look like English is his first language, not that there is anything wrong with that.

    Headpusher, In order to be a more effective communicator, I would strongly suggest that you take an adult education course at your local community college.....No wait, the Bush administration defunded community colleges......nevermind.

  4. "I think I may need a bathroom break" "Is this possible?"

    bushun0ao.jpg

    No. This is not a photoshop job Igloo, Patient (dr. logic), Obby and the other "useful idiots" who resemble you. The photo was taken by a Reuters photographer who caught Bush writing the note. E&P's update, including an explanation from Reuters' photo editor Gary Hershorn, can be found here.

    http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001137788

    Need proof?

    Reuters Photog Captures Bush at U.N. With 'Bathroom Break' Note

    By E&P Staff

    Published: September 14, 2005 7:35 PM ET updated Thursday 9:30 AM

    NEW YORK In what seems destined to become one of the most joked about photos of the month, a well-known Reuters photographer on Wednesday captured President George W. Bush scribbling a note to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a session at the United Nations. On the note is a message revolving around the need to take a "bathroom break."

    The photo, which appeared on Reuters' official photo site, was quickly published all over the Web, though dismissed by some as a likely photoshop special. Others suggested that surely someone must have hacked the Reuters site. But a Reuters spokesman on Thursday told E&P the photo was legit.

    "The photographer and editors on this story were looking for other angles in their coverage of this event, something that went beyond the stock pictures of talking heads that these kind of forums usually offer," explained Reuters' Stephen Naru. "This picture certainly does that."

    Reuters told E&P today that Bush indeed did take a "bathroom break" shortly after the picture was snapped.

    The photo by Denver-based Rick Wilking, taken over a man's shoulder, shows an official -- identified in the caption as President Bush -- scribbling in pencil on a small white piece of paper that already contains the words: "I think I MAY NEED A BATHroom break?" It is unclear if Bush is in the process of responding to that message or wrote it himself.

    The caption at the Reuters site reads:

    "U.S. President George W. Bush writes a note to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a Security Council meeting at the 2005 World Summit and 60th General Assembly of the United Nations in New York September 14, 2005. World leaders are exploring ways to revitalize the United Nations at a summit on Wednesday but their blueprint falls short of Secretary-General Kofi Annan's vision of freedom from want, persecution and war."

    The photo can be found here.

    Wilking, a former Reuters staffer in Europe, took several other photos today at the U.N. posted at the Reuters site on Wednesday. He recently covered the hurricane disaster in the Gulf, and on Sept. 2 was profiled at E&P Online.

    He told E&P's Jay DeFoore at that time that he decided to leave New Orleans only after his laptop and two cameras were stolen from his car parked near the convention center. But he vowed to return to cover the "human tragedy."

    One online bio of Wilking describes him as a "presidential photographer" with 12 years experience shooting pictures in Washington or on various White House assignments. It says he started his career as a photojournalist for the Colorado Daily in 1974. He told Gelf magazine today that he is close to Bush and wonders what the White House thinks of the photo.

    http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001137252

  5. OK, lets use some reason here. The video "seemingly" shows some cop grabbing a gun away from an old lady. BUT: it somehow conveniently leaves out all the events leading upto that. How do you know that lady didn't pull off a shot or two, and refused to give up the gun? Why would a cop, on video suddenly, decide to "tackle" an old lady? Because he wants bad publicity for his department? He's sick of his dept and wants to set it up? Or is it because this whole incident is doctored in order to make the cops look bad?

    Let me ask you a question though - WHY do you think that a white cop would tackle a white old lady? Can you tell me what purpose that serves?

    It only serves the purpose that he is not a cop. He's a pig. It also serves the purpose he cares less about elderly people IMO. She looks to be in her 70s. Imagine if she fell into cardiac arrest in the ordeal? There would most definately be a huge stink.

    She had no gun. I don't care what Fox lies says. By the way Raver, if she was black, they would have beat her with nightsticks before they drag her out the door. The NOPD have a long standing record of police brutalities and racist attacks.

    The video is genuine. I watched the same video on Fox News itself when they ran it.

    And patient (I officially refuse to call you dr. logic), good to see you receiving humiliating ownage in your thread about Clinton. You know which one I am talking about.

    Exact transl: "I shit on the tits of the virgin Mary so that baby Jesus can suck shit"

    Vos puta pendeja.= Bitch Pubic hair/Asshole

    Vete a la mierda tu puta baracha.= Go to the shit, drunk bitch

    Or go fuck yourself. You forgot that.

    Anda la puta que te pari.= Go to the bitch that bore me

    WRONG!! It's (in proper phrasing).... Go back to the prostitute that gave birth to you.

    • Me parece que la vena de la lengua pasa por tu culo porque hablas mucha mierda! (It seems to me that the vein of your tongue goes through your ass because you speak so much shit!)
    • Chupas las nalgas de monos grandes (You suck the butt-cheeks of large monkeys.)
    • Anda la puta que te pari. (Go back to the prostitute that gave birth to you.)

    No vales nada cabrona.

    Pinche pito de pitufo.

    Comemierda singao.

  6. Well put.....

    His posts are getting worse and worse...like I have said before, I do believe there is something seriously wrong with him......a scary combination of mental defects, social misfit, and a lack of education outside of regurgitating michael moore and moveon.org.....

    I am not sure we can take too much credit giving him messageboard beatings...it is too easy.........................fuck it, yes we can :biggrin:

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  7. Did you just say BF(bitch fit)........?

    So, not only am I a racist, crossburner,,,,I'm also a bannana eating wetback,,,,and now I'm a emotionally cripple female........

    You're batting 1000 Scooter!

    Translation:

    Me cago en las tetas de la Virgen María para que el Niño Jesús chupe mierda.

    Vos puta pendeja.

    Vete a la mierda tu puta baracha.

    Anda la puta que te pari.

  8. how tolerant of you Scooter! How inclusive!!!

    Seriously though, take your meds....QUICK!

    or not....I kinda like you all rabid like this. I just hope your parents have you a under strict supervision (for your own good, of course). Do you wear a helmet and not even play football?

    You're defective. You came bad, out of the box. Crossed cables. Burn't cable. Broken.

    :spank:

    Did I just get through telling you not to bitch to me about your periods? Why must you keep being so antagonizing about it? I don't want to hear it! Keep your fucking PMS bitchfest to yourself, you bitch!

  9. - this is taken out of context. I saw that interview. People thought a direct hit from the hurricane in New Orleans would damage/breach the levees. It did not! They survived the storm! The levees broke a day later. That quote was a reply to the levees actually surving the hurricane, then breaking later. No one thought they would survive the hurricane

    the national weather service warned the US government that the levees would break if a direct hit occured.

    -Nothing wrong w/ that. It's an optimistic statement in a zone which was demolished by the storm. It's called moving forward! Nothing wrong w/ that statement!

    Bush showing sympathy for one of the richest people in the area was a bad PR move.

    -Considering the size of the destruction and lack of execution of the LA/New Orleans emergency plans, it absolutely has been an amazing effort!

    This was said on September 1st....not now.

    -Largest mobilization of federal rescue/aid in American history. Especially in Mississippi which was wiped off the map. Mississippi ain't complain'n! They had a good Governor!

    Then why is he gone?

    -Which he did not hear from the LA governor who was blocking the Red Cross from entering the area due to security concerns and the effort to avoid making the SuperDome a magnet for more residents to swarm to. They wanted people out of the there, not flocking there...Key point: LA Gov. calling the shots.

    All he had to do was turn on the TV. all of the networks were covering it.

    9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving.†–Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

    -BINGO! TOUGH LOVE BABY!

    Most of the people who did not leave did not have the means to leave. No cars, no money. The city of new orleans's mass transit system shut down.

    -LOL,,,,,and?????????????????????????? Your point is?

    so black? wtf is that supposed to mean?

    -At that point, there was still a rescue effort under way. The federal gov't was there, the local gov't opted to no use them right away. Bush is factually accurate although it's tough to figure out why he couldn't just slap that puta governor and do what he's gotta do...oh yeah,,,there are laws that don't permit him to....

    The governor decleared a state of emergency before the storm made landfalland told Bush "Send me all you've got." I don't see what else she needed to do.

    -It's called compassion. You don't tell little kids who've lost everything,,,,HEY FUCKER, YOU'RE FUKT!...

    Its fun to lose your house and watch your family and friends drown?

    -ouch! GET SOME!!!! Sounds like a frustrated congressman expressing his frustration w/ the OBVIOUS FAILURES OF THE 40 YR. WAR ON POVERTY and levels to which a welfare state can destroy people.

    So wait....you put your blame on the dems, now you solely blame welfare? make a point and stick to it.

    14)

    - okay? and?????????

    LOUISIANA IS A STATE, NOT A CITY. that statement alone proves that Chertoff is a dumbass.

    -I guess she doesn't care...racist! LOL You people are reaching! LOL How petty! Pity!

    who called her a racist? dumb, yes. but racist? no.

    - Probably prior to the levee breaking. And?

    No. After.

    -So why did the LA gov. get in the way? Why did Mayor Nagin let her get in the way of helping his people? Gulianni was roaming the streets in New York wearing a mask trying to console his people? Where was Nagin or the LA gov. oh yeah,,in Baton Rouge....NICE! Way to lead!

    http://www.dod.gov/transcripts/2005/tr20050901-3843.html

    23) "I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, arguing that the victims bear some responsibility, CNN interview, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    -absolutely correct! suck it up! Those who could not, rely on their local gov't (mayor/gov) to get them to safety.

    Mega-PWN3D!!

  10. Stupid Quotes About Hurricane Katrina

    From Daniel Kurtzman,Your Guide to Political Humor.

    25 Mind-Numbingly Stupid Quotes About Hurricane Katrina And Its Aftermath

    1) "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." –President Bush, on "Good Morning America," Sept. 1, 2005, six days after repeated warnings from experts about the scope of damage expected from Hurricane Katrina (Source)

    2) "What I'm hearing which is sort of scary is that they all want to stay in Texas. Everybody is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway so this (chuckle) – this is working very well for them." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush, on the hurricane evacuees at the Astrodome in Houston, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)

    3) "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do ... The good news is — and it's hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house — he's lost his entire house — there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." (Laughter) —President Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)

    4) "Considering the dire circumstances that we have in New Orleans, virtually a city that has been destroyed, things are going relatively well." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    5) "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." –President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)

    6) "Now tell me the truth boys, is this kind of fun?" –House Majority Leader Tom Delay (R-TX), to three young hurricane evacuees from New Orleans at the Astrodome in Houston, Sept. 9, 2005 (Source)

    7) "Well, I think if you look at what actually happened, I remember on Tuesday morning picking up newspapers and I saw headlines, 'New Orleans Dodged the Bullet.' Because if you recall, the storm moved to the east and then continued on and appeared to pass with considerable damage but nothing worse." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, blaming media coverage for the government's failings, "Meet the Press," Sept. 4, 2005 (Source)

    8) "What didn't go right?'" –President Bush, as quoted by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), after she urged him to fire FEMA Director Michael Brown "because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right" in the Hurricane Katrina relief effort (Source)

    9) "I mean, you have people who don't heed those warnings and then put people at risk as a result of not heeding those warnings. There may be a need to look at tougher penalties on those who decide to ride it out and understand that there are consequences to not leaving." –Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

    10) "You simply get chills every time you see these poor individuals...many of these people, almost all of them that we see are so poor and they are so black, and this is going to raise lots of questions for people who are watching this story unfold." –CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on New Orleans' hurricane evacuees, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    Heard another stupid quote? Send it to politicalhumor.guide@about.com 25 Mind-Numbingly Dumb Quotes About Hurricane Katrina And Its Aftermath

    11) "We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn't do it, but God did." –Rep. Richard Baker (R-LA) to lobbyists, as quoted in the Wall Street Journal (Source)

    12) "If one person criticizes [the local authorities’ relief efforts] or says one more thing, including the president of the United States, he will hear from me. One more word about it after this show airs, and I…I might likely have to punch him, literally." –Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA), "This Week with George Stephanopoulous," Sept. 4, 2005 ((Source)

    13) "There are a lot of lessons we want to learn out of this process in terms of what works. I think we are in fact on our way to getting on top of the whole Katrina exercise." –Vice President Dick Cheney, Sept. 10, 2005 (Source)

    14) "I believe the town where I used to come – from Houston, Texas, to enjoy myself, occasionally too much – will be that very same town, that it will be a better place to come to." –President Bush, on the tarmac at the New Orleans airport, Sept. 2, 2005 (Source)

    15) "I have not heard a report of thousands of people in the convention center who don't have food and water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, on NPR's "All Things Considered," Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    16) "Last night, we showed you the full force of a superpower government going to the rescue." –MSNBC's Chris Matthews, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    17) "We just learned of the convention center – we being the federal government – today." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, to ABC's Ted Koppel, Sept. 1, 2005, to which Koppel responded: "Don't you guys watch television? Don't you guys listen to the radio? Our reporters have been reporting on it for more than just today." (Source)

    18) "Mayor Nagin and most mayors in this country have a hard time getting their people to work on a sunny day, let alone getting them out of the city in front of a hurricane." –Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA), on why New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin failed to follow the city's evacuation plan and press the buses into service, "Fox News Sunday," Sept. 11, 2005 (Source)

    19) "Louisiana is a city that is largely under water." –Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, news conference, Sept. 3, 2005 (Source)

    20) "I also want to encourage anybody who was affected by Hurricane Corina to make sure their children are in school." –First Lady Laura Bush, twice referring to a "Hurricane Corina" while speaking to children and parents in South Haven, Mississippi, Sept. 8, 2005 (Source)

    Heard another stupid quote? Send it to politicalhumor.guide@about.com 25 Mind-Numbingly Stupid Quotations About Hurricane Katrina And Its Aftermath

    21) "It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be doubly devastating on the ground." –President Bush, turning to his aides while surveying Hurricane Katrina flood damage from Air Force One, Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)

    22)"But I really didn't hear that at all today. People came up to me all day long and said 'God bless your son,' people of different races and it was very, very moving and touching, and they felt like when he flew over that it made all the difference in their lives, so I just don't hear that." –Former First Lady Barbara Bush to CNN's Larry King, after King asked her how she felt when people said that her son "doesn't care" about race, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)

    22) "FEMA is not going to hesitate at all in this storm. We are not going to sit back and make this a bureaucratic process. We are going to move fast, we are going to move quick, and we are going to do whatever it takes to help disaster victims." -FEMA Director Michael Brown, Aug. 28, 2005 (Source)

    24) "I understand there are 10,000 people dead. It's terrible. It's tragic. But in a democracy of 300 million people, over years and years and years, these things happen." --GOP strategist Jack Burkman, on MSNBC's "Connected," Sept. 7, 2005 (Source)

    25) "A young [black] man walks through chest deep floodwater after looting a grocery store in New Orleans..."

    "Two [white] residents wade through chest-deep water after finding bread and soda from a local grocery store after Hurricane Katrina came through the area in New Orleans..." –captions at Yahoo News, Aug. 30, 2005 (Source)

    Read more idiotic quotes that didn't make the top 25.

    Heard another stupid quote? Send it to politicalhumor.guide@about.com Quotes That Didn't Make the Top 25

    "It makes no sense to spend billions of dollars to rebuild a city that's seven feet under sea level....It looks like a lot of that place could be bulldozed." –House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Aug. 31, 2005 (Source)

    "Judge Roberts can, maybe, you know, be thankful that a tragedy has brought him some good." –Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson, arguing that Supreme Court nominee John Roberts stands to benefit from Hurricane Katrina because "inflamed rhetoric in the United States Senate is just not going to play well now," Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    "You know, Tim, that's one of the things that will be debated." –New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, after being asked by NBC's Tim Russert why he didn't use buses to evacuate residents in accordance with the city's evacuation plan (Source)

    "This is the largest disaster in the history of the United States, over an area twice the size of Europe. People have to understand this is a big, big problem.'' –Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

    "You know I talked to Haley Barbour, the governor of Mississippi yesterday because some people were saying, 'Well, if you hadn't sent your National Guard to Iraq, we here in Mississippi would be better off.' He told me 'I've been out in the field every single day, hour, for four days and no one, not one single mention of the word Iraq.' Now where does that come from? Where does that story come from if the governor is not picking up one word about it? I don't know. I can use my imagination." –Former President George Bush, who can give his imagination a rest, interview with CNN’s Larry King, Sept. 5, 2005 (Source)

    "I don't want to alarm everybody that, you know, New Orleans is filling up like a bowl. That's just not happening." -Bill Lokey, FEMA's New Orleans coordinator, in a press briefing from Baton Rouge, Aug. 30, 2005 (Source)

    "Bureaucracy is not going to stand in the way of getting the job done for the people." –President Bush, Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

    "I've had no reports of unrest, if the connotation of the word 'unrest' means that people are beginning to riot or, you know, they’re banging on walls and screaming and hollering or burning tires or whatever. I've had no reports of that." -FEMA director Michael Brown, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    "I don't make judgments about why people chose not to leave but, you know, there was a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, arguing that the victims bear some responsibility, CNN interview, Sept. 1, 2005 (Source)

    "Our Nation is prepared, as never before, to deal quickly and capably with the consequences of disasters and other domestic incidents." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, March 9, 2005 (Source)

    "Outstanding Political Science Professor, Central State University" --description on FEMA director Michael Brown's resume, which turned out to be false -- he was only a student there (Source)

    "I'm going to go home and walk my dog and hug my wife, and maybe get a good Mexican meal and a stiff margarita and a full night's sleep." –FEMA Director Michael Brown, on his plans after being relieved from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, Sept. 9, 2005 (Source)

    "And in all fairness to the Department of Homeland Security right now, I mean this is a brand new Department that was formed after 9/11. In many ways this is a 'learn by our mistakes and figure out what to do better' type of scenario." -CNN anchor Kyra Phillips, Sept. 9, 2005 (Source)

    "Louisiana's Senator Landrieu announced on network television, 'I might likely have to punch him, literally.' And my question, since 'him' is the President, and both punching and threatening to punch the President is a felony, has her qualifying words 'might likely' saved her from arrest and prosecution?" -unknown reporter to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

    "As of Saturday (Sept. 3), Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said." –Washington Post staff writers Manuel Roig-Franzia and Spencer Hsu, who didn't bother to fact-check the blatant lie peddled by the Bush administration as part of its attempts to pin blame on state and local officials, when, in fact, the emergency declaration had been made on Friday, Aug. 26 (Source)

    "Just to get you on the record, where does the buck stop in this administration?" –White House reporter

    "The President." –White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, Sept. 6, 2005 (Source)

  11. ON HURRICANE KATRINA: THREE FUNDAMENTAL LESSONS

    Three fundamental things to be learned from what has been happening, including the role of the government, in relation to hurricane Katrina:

    1. The real nature of those who rule over the people, and real weaknesses of this ruling class, have been further revealed before the world. The “superstitious awe†that people are conditioned to have toward the powers-that-be and their state—their whole machinery of rule, and of repression—has been dramatically shaken through these events and in particular through the actions of the government itself. In the eyes of large numbers of people, the ability to rule as well as the right to rule of this current regime, and indeed of the ruling class as a whole, has been called into question in significant ways. Things which this ruling class attempts to keep hidden, to deny or to distort and misrepresent—including the oppression and the extreme poverty of large numbers of Black people in the U.S. itself—has burst through the “normal†web of deception and the iron hand of suppression. What does and does not matter to the powers-that-be—and in particular their complete lack of concern for the masses of poor and oppressed people, and indeed for the people in society in their great majority—has stood out for all to see, throughout the U.S. and all over the world. At the same time, it has been graphically illustrated that, even though they remain very powerful, the rulers of the U.S., and their armed forces and other machinery of oppression, are not all-powerful.
    2. Not only the need but also the possibility of revolution, and of a radically different society, shows through in these events—once they are understood in their true light. Masses of people, in the areas most immediately affected, were being left by the government to suffer, day after day, in conditions not fit for human beings, yet they showed their humanity in many ways and put the lie to the slanders that portrayed them as criminals and animals. Where they took matters into their own hands, the great majority did so with right on their side, in the attempt to meet needs that could be met no other way. Overwhelmingly, the people trapped in these conditions have responded by supporting and helping each other, especially those in most desperate need, while expressing outrage at the indifference and inaction of the government; and in this they have been supported and assisted by people all over the country. In all this can be seen the potential for masses of people to be mobilized to bring into being a society in which relations among people are radically different than the daily dog-eat-dog that this capitalist system pushes people into. Yet what has also stood out very clearly is that the masses of people are not fully aware of and organized on the basis of an understanding of how the whole operation of this system is in direct and deep-going conflict with their real and fundamental interests. When they gain that understanding, and are organized to act on that basis, then a revolutionary struggle of millions and millions of people, combined with the development and sharpening of certain objective conditions, could make it possible to break the hold of the class of cold-blooded capitalist exploiters who rule over this society (and much of the world) and to bring into being a new society and a new state which would put the interests of the great majority of the people at the foundation and at the center of everything it stands for and everything it does. But for this to happen, the masses must have revolutionary leadership. And that points to a third and final crucial point.
    3. There is such a revolutionary leadership—the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA, and its Chairman Bob Avakian. But to put things squarely and honestly, while the Party has been exerting real efforts to take up its responsibility in relation to the events surrounding hurricane Katrina, the ability of the Party to actually lead in these dire and urgent circumstances has been far short of what it needs to be. If the influence of the Party and its organized ties with masses of people had been much greater, leading into these events surrounding hurricane Katrina, the Party would be able to play a far greater role in raising the understanding of the masses of people as to what was happening and why: why the government and the whole ruling class reacted the way they have—with the loss of thousands of lives, and terrible suffering for hundreds of thousands more, much of which could have been prevented or significantly lessened—and what this says about the nature of their system and why we need a radically different system. The Party could have been playing a far greater role in enabling masses of people, in the areas immediately affected and throughout the country, to be organized to respond to these events and to wage organized political struggle, on a much higher level and in a much more powerful way, to force steps to be taken immediately to save hundreds and probably thousands of lives that have been, and are still being, needlessly lost. And all this could be having the effect of raising the consciousness and the organized strength of masses of people to a far higher level, with the necessary goal of revolution more clearly and sharply in view. These events surrounding hurricane Katrina and all that has been forced into the light of day in connection with this, has shown the great need for the Party to rise to its responsibilities and play its leadership role in this way, on a whole other level, and for masses of people to rally to, to support, to join and build, and to defend—this necessary and crucial revolutionary leadership, as embodied in the Revolutionary Communist Party and its Chairman Bob Avakian.

  12. seems to me that you're forgetting something quite important in that very flawed comparison of yours:

    -> bush knew before the hurricane hit that it was coming

    -> clinton didn't know about the bombing until it happened

    the real difference is not that clinton had sympathetic media...

    the real difference is that bush knew about it before it happened, and did nothing to prepare for it...

    so start counting those days again...

    and about michael brown: he's not allegedly disgraced...he is an idiot...a zero...need proof?

    here's what he had to say on nightline with ted koppel on thursday september 1st (yes, that's 3 days after landfall):

    ...

    now let's review:

    f.e.m.a.: federal emergency management agency

    katrina: largest hurricane to ever wreak havock on u.s. soil

    michael brown: dumbass nominated by kings of all dumbasses as head of fema, declares on live tv 3 days after the hurricane hit, that fema has only now learnt about the hurricane

    and you want to tell me that michael brown is "allegedly" disgraced?...

    please...

    OWNED!

  13. ATTN: destruction....

    I don't know what you're smoking but either you have a reading comprehension issue or you're just a tool who's not interested in objectivly analyzing any issue which deviates from your pre-concieved template of hate. Nothing I say/write illustrates that point better than your own posts. So keep spinn'n baby. That's all you've got!

    Do you realize that you may have crossed cables in your head? Looking back on some of your posts, I can't help but picture you reading something based on historical fact/perspective which completely go against everything you believe in causing you to flinch and twitch and repeat "bush is wrong, bush is the devil, bush lied/people died, war for oil, halliburton, bush knew", then going on to claim victory on a message board after you post your twisted, misguided view void of perspective and critical timelines and facts. Step back from the keyboard and look @ your own posts. Guy, you're a tool! You're irrelevant.

    Like I've posted before, I'll do it again: You (liberals/democrats) will need to show me (America) proof of any (liberal)policy or politician which has actually fixed anything.

    If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem!

    Get it? Now sit down and shut up scooter!

    :isok:

    Translation:

    I'm giving Hurricane Katrina a new name.

    I am now calling it El Negro Del Flusho.

    WHITE POWER! GO BUSH!

    The problem is assclown is that you fail to address the points, so instead you attack the character of the person because that person disagrees which of course validates the points given by your adversary. How does that give you any credibility? I fucking destroyed you in the Michael Moore thread that contained his letter with PROOF that Michael Brown was a horse trainer. A point Michael Moore made. A point he made well backed with the valid data I showed you. It's funny how you ran away from that thread after the severe asskickery (ownage) you became a recipient to right after I showed you 4 articles that PROVE YOU WRONG!!

    Do America a favor by exercising your freedom of movement and make that MIA* in your location stand up by putting that tow package of your gas guzzling SUV to good use by hitching up your house and towing it along with your white supremacist ass out of the country because you hate America. That's part of the solution because your racist anti-American Bush supporting is part of the problem. Get it? Now sit down and shut the fuck up because that's the only freedom of speech anti-American far right wing racists like you deserve! To keep their mouths shut!

    * denotes MIA as

    Missing

    In

    America

    Make yourself that way.

  14. Here you go dr logic. Proof Brown ran horse shows courtesy of the conservative Boston Herald:

    http://business.bostonherald.com/businessNews/view.bg?articleid=100857

    Brown pushed from last job: Horse group: FEMA chief had to be `asked to resign'

    By Brett Arends

    Saturday, September 3, 2005 - Updated: 02:01 PM EST

    The federal official in charge of the bungled New Orleans rescue was fired from his last private-sector job overseeing horse shows.

    And before joining the Federal Emergency Management Agency as a deputy director in 2001, GOP activist Mike Brown had no significant experience that would have qualified him for the position.

    The Oklahoman got the job through an old college friend who at the time was heading up FEMA.

    The agency, run by Brown since 2003, is now at the center of a growing fury over the handling of the New Orleans disaster.

    ``I look at FEMA and I shake my head,'' said a furious Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday, calling the response ``an embarrassment.''

    President Bush, after touring the Big Easy, said he was ``not satisfied'' with the emergency response to Hurricane Katrina's devastation.

    And U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch predicted there would be hearings on Capitol Hill over the mishandled operation.

    Brown - formerly an estates and family lawyer - this week has has made several shocking public admissions, including interviews where he suggested FEMA was unaware of the misery and desperation of refugees stranded at the New Orleans convention center.

    Before joining the Bush administration in 2001, Brown spent 11 years as the commissioner of judges and stewards for the International Arabian Horse Association, a breeders' and horse-show organization based in Colorado.

    ``We do disciplinary actions, certification of (show trial) judges. We hold classes to train people to become judges and stewards. And we keep records,'' explained a spokeswoman for the IAHA commissioner's office. ``This was his full-time job . . . for 11 years,'' she added.

    Brown was forced out of the position after a spate of lawsuits over alleged supervision failures.

    ``He was asked to resign,'' Bill Pennington, president of the IAHA at the time, confirmed last night.

    Soon after, Brown was invited to join the administration by his old Oklahoma college roommate Joseph Allbaugh, the previous head of FEMA until he quit in 2003 to work for the president's re-election campaign.

    The White House last night defended Brown's appointment. A spokesman noted Brown served as FEMA deputy director and general counsel before taking the top job, and that he has now overseen the response to ``more than 164 declared disasters and emergencies,'' including last year's record-setting hurricane season.

    And to add more fuel to the fire, the organization where he was commissioner of judges and stewards. The International Arabian Horse Association:

    http://secure.arabianhorses.org/apps/index.cgi?page=pressrel&prid=41

    Former International Arabian Horse Association Judges & Stewards Commissioner, Michael Brown

    The International Arabian Horse Association (IAHA) was merged in 2003 with the Arabian Horse Registry of America to form what is now the Arabian Horse Association, the largest single breed affiliate of the United States Equestrian Federation, the national governing body for equestrian sport from the grassroots up through Olympic Competition. The Arabian Horse Association’s operations include an Arabian horse Registry, the Office of Judges and Stewards Commissioner, the production of six National Championship events, breed promotion and diverse membership programs for its 45,000 members in the United States, Canada and Mexico.

    DENVER, COLORADO --- The Arabian Horse Association, based in Denver, is responding to inquiries concerning a former employee of the association, Michael Brown. From September 1991 through January 2001, Mr. Brown served as Judges & Stewards Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association which is now the Arabian Horse Association.

    "As Commissioner, he was charged with responsibilities including managing the education, appointment and evaluation of judges and stewards for competitions that come under the jurisdiction of the IAHA," stated Myron Krause, current president of the Arabian Horse Association. "He was also responsible for the investigation of complaints related to rule adherence in those competitions, recommending action based on complaint investigations, and taking action consistent with association rules. He also coordinated and supervised the activities of the association’s Education-Evaluation Commission, Judges and Stewards Steering Committee, and the Judges and Stewards Selection Committee."

    Barbara Burck, executive vice president and chief administrator of the association added that "Mr. Brown had a long and successful career with IAHA and was regarded as upholding the highest standards of integrity and demanding excellence in all areas under his jurisdiction. His legal background and management skills enabled him to accomplish the rigors of the job with professionalism."

    "He dealt with issues related to enforcement of rules and regulations that often generated passionate dispute by advocates on both sides of his decisions,†she added. “Several of those enforcement issues resulted in litigation. Due to the nature of Mr. Brown’s duties as commissioner, he set up his own Legal Defense Fund Trust to supplement the IAHA Legal Defense Fund. Following his departure from the IAHA, the entire sum in the Michael D. Brown Legal Defense Fund Trust was transferred to the IAHA Legal Defense Fund."

    President Myron Krause stated, "Brown’s contract was not terminated by IAHA, he resigned. Furthermore, there was no due cause to terminate his contract. An amicable separation agreement was reached in 2001when he left the employment of IAHA. Following his departure, Brown was retained for a time as a consultant to assist IAHA on an as-needed basis."

    Please note: IAHA, now the Arabian Horse Association, will not field any further press calls or inquiries regarding this issue.

    The Arabian Horse Association applauds the efforts of all individuals and organizations working to provide relief to those devastated by Hurricane Katrina. We encourage those who want to help horses and their owners to contact the United States Equestrian Federation and support the USEF Hurricane Relief Fund, referral veterinary services and local horse shelters. See: http://www.usef.org/relief

    And to hammer down the final nail in your coffin, proof that Brown lied on his resume so he could get the job as head of FEMA:

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,1103003,00.html

    Thursday, Sep. 08, 2005

    How Reliable Is Brown's Resume?

    A TIME investigation reveals discrepancies in the FEMA chief's official biographies

    By DAREN FONDA AND RITA HEALY When President Bush nominated Michael Brown to head the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) in 2003, Brown's boss at the time, Joe Allbaugh, declared, "the President couldn't have chosen a better man to help...prepare and protect the nation." But how well was he prepared for the job? Since Hurricane Katrina, the FEMA director has come under heavy criticism for his performance and scrutiny of his background. Now, an investigation by TIME has found discrepancies in his online legal profile and official bio, including a description of Brown released by the White House at the time of his nomination in 2001 to the job as deputy chief of FEMA. On Friday, Brown, who became director of FEMA in 2003, was relieved of his duties handling the Katrina response and was replaced in that role by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad W. Allen.

    Before joining FEMA, his only previous stint in emergency management, according to his bio posted on FEMA's website, was "serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight." The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him." Brown did do a good job at his humble position, however, according to his boss. "Yes. Mike Brown worked for me. He was my administrative assistant. He was a student at Central State University," recalls former city manager Bill Dashner. "Mike used to handle a lot of details. Every now and again I'd ask him to write me a speech. He was very loyal. He was always on time. He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt."

    In response, Nicol Andrews, deputy strategic director in FEMA's office of public affairs, insists that while Brown began as an intern, he became an "assistant city manager" with a distinguished record of service. "According to Mike Brown," she says, "a large portion [of the points raised by TIME] is very inaccurate."

    Brown's lack of experience in emergency management isn't the only apparent bit of padding on his resume, which raises questions about how rigorously the White House vetted him before putting him in charge of FEMA. Under the "honors and awards" section of his profile at FindLaw.com — which is information on the legal website provided by lawyers or their offices—he lists "Outstanding Political Science Professor, Central State University". However, Brown "wasn't a professor here, he was only a student here," says Charles Johnson, News Bureau Director in the University Relations office at the University of Central Oklahoma (formerly named Central State University). "He may have been an adjunct instructor," says Johnson, but that title is very different from that of "professor." Carl Reherman, a former political science professor at the University through the '70s and '80s, says that Brown "was not on the faculty." As for the honor of "Outstanding Political Science Professor," Johnson says, "I spoke with the department chair yesterday and he's not aware of it." Johnson could not confirm that Brown made the Dean's list or was an "Outstanding Political Science Senior," as is stated on his online profile.

    Speaking for Brown, Andrews says that Brown has never claimed to be a political science professor, in spite of what his profile in FindLaw indicates. "He was named the outstanding political science senior at Central State, and was an adjunct professor at Oklahoma City School of Law."

    Under the heading of "Professional Associations and Memberships" on FindLaw, Brown states that from 1983 to the present he has been director of the Oklahoma Christian Home, a nursing home in Edmond. But an administrator with the Home told TIME that Brown is "not a person that anyone here is familiar with." She says there was a board of directors until a couple of years ago, but she couldn't find anyone who recalled him being on it. According to FEMA's Andrews, Brown said "he's never claimed to be the director of the home. He was on the board of directors, or governors of the nursing home." However, a veteran employee at the center since 1981 says Brown "was never director here, was never on the board of directors, was never executive director. He was never here in any capacity. I never heard his name mentioned here."

    The FindLaw profile for Brown was amended on Thursday to remove a reference to his tenure at the International Arabian Horse Association, which has become a contested point.

    Brown's FindLaw profile lists a wide range of areas of legal practice, from estate planning to family law to sports. However, one former colleague does not remember Brown's work as sterling. Stephen Jones, a prominent Oklahoma lawyer who was lead defense attorney on the Timothy McVeigh case, was Brown's boss for two-and-a-half years in the early '80s. "He did mainly transactional work, not litigation," says Jones. "There was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow." Jones says when his law firm split, Brown was one of two staffers who was let go.

    — With reporting by Jeremy Caplan and Carolina A. Miranda/New York; Nathan Thornburgh/Baton Rouge; Levi Clark/Edmond; Massimo Calabresi and Mark Thompson/Washington

    And to lay you in your final resting place, this is what conservative columnist Michelle Malkin had to say about Michael Brown in her open memo to Bush.

    http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003458.htm

    MEMO TO BUSH: FIRE MICHAEL BROWN

    By Michelle Malkin · September 04, 2005 08:17 AM

    During his visit to Mobile, Ala., on Friday, President Bush singled out Michael D. Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, for praise:

    "
    "

    Really? "Brownie's" job is to direct the federal response to natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina. Let's review his public statements during the past week:

    - He admitted that he didn't act more aggressively because as late as last Sunday he expected Katrina to be a "standard hurricane" even though the National Weather Service in New Orleans was already predicting "human suffering incredible by modern standards."

    - He proved himself utterly clueless about the disaster unfolding in New Orleans. He claimed that the federal relief effort was "going relatively well" and that the security situation in New Orleans was "pretty darn good."

    - He blamed the flood victims in New Orleans for failing to evacuate on time, even though local authorities failed to make municipal vehicles available to residents who could not drive or did not own their own cars.

    "It took four days to begin a large-scale evacuation of people stranded in the Superdome stadium and to bring in significant amounts of food and water to an American city easily accessible by motorway," the Observer notes. "Relief agencies took half that time to reach Indonesia after the Boxing Day tsunami. "

    Although the delay was not entirely the fault of the Bush Administration, Brown's complacency clearly didn't help. And his bumbling statements after the hurricane struck have not inspired confidence.

    This is not the time to give a weak performer the benefit of the doubt. The FEMA director's role in the ongoing recovery effort is too important to be entrusted to a clueless political hack with such poor judgment.

    Rather than praise Michael Brown, Bush should fire him.

    ***

    Update, 9:15am: Brendan Loy has a superb post about Brown's failure to anticipate the enormity of Katrina (hat tip: Glenn Reynolds):

    No one -- NO ONE -- who knows anything about New Orleans's geography and topography and levee system would ever have thought for a single moment on Saturday and Sunday that Katrina, if it followed the predicted path, was going to be a "typical hurricane situation." Jesus Christ!! For how many years now has
    been out there?!? And
    ? And many more like them? Did Michael Brown never read them? Was he not familiar with the science? Was FEMA's director unaware of what has been acknowledged for many years as the #1 most serious natural disaster threat in all of America?!?

    Ouch!!

    But of course we know Brown ultimately resigned from FEMA after he was relieved of his duties by Bush shortly after Malkin wrote her open memo.

    dr logic, you have been owned. Truth hurts.

  15. Attack the officers?

    Attack the FEMA

    etc,,etc......

    who exactly should be helping these people? If the help they're getting they don't want (which is far from the truth, but for shits and giggles, I'm inserting myself into Destructions bubble), then to please destruction, all the help should pull out..

    gov't assistance sucks, police suck, nat. guard sucks.....so, they should all just go home and let those people rott? Hey, maybe Michael Moore can drive in the Oscar Mayer hotdog mobile and Moveon.org can bring in tents and they can feed everybody soy milk, granola, franks and beans......

    BRUTO!

    Outstanding post....fucking outstanding............give Destruction credit for his resiliency...he takes a beating daily, and keeps coming back for more....then again, it is just another sign of his monumental stupidity

    Translation:

    Police brutality against the elderly is good for America........Even if the cops abuse my grandmother, that is also good for America..........Lets help the elderly survivors by utilizing police brutality against them. Lets help the victims by turning back truckloads containing the necessities they need. Lets take away their guns they protect themselves from the criminals so only criminals and cops have them. The same criminals who are shooting both the innocent survivors and the cops. Lets do this in the name of America and in the name of Bush.........If it's good for America, it's good for me..........

    Once again, here we see you enforcing your hate toward the hurricane survivors and now your hate toward the elderly. So you think elderly abuse, and turning back supplies for the survivors is good food for thought? Would you act this way if that was YOUR GRANDMOTHER being ruthlessly abused by the cops the same way that elderly woman in the Fox News newsclip was being abused? Would you act this way if you could not get the help you need because FEMA turned away truckloads of the basic necessitities? Would you act this way if the cops confiscated YOUR GUNS? The same guns YOU used to protect yourself from the criminals who so happen to be shooting at both the innocent survivors and the COPS knowing that if they take YOUR guns, the criminals win? You'd be in a frenzy but then again, you don't care because you don't give a fuck about the victims.

    I thought you far right wing gun nuts with your 100 plus gun collections would go into a frenzy about gun confiscation but I guess I'm wrong which translates to the fact you don't give a shit about the second amendment. The same amendment that so happens to be the check that keeps government from falling into tyranny.

    Your past postings are your testimony that you don't give a shit about the hurricane victims, or the survivors who lost everything and you don't give a shit about the elderly either. Keep it coming shitlips. You expose your hatred and idiocy well. It is just another sign of your monumental stupidity.

  16. Pride? I take pride in what I do.

    QUOTE]

    Mental midget---it is obvious the only thing you take pride in is being a hanging shit ball dangling from Michael Moore's ass.....

    You got exposed as a moron again---and it could not have been scripted any better you fucking tool....

    You thought it was a real photo.. :rofl: .....fucking imbecile...

    Great job clownboy........need any more rope to hang yourself?

    :lol3: :lol3:

    :lol3: :lol3:

    Eat more grass Nazi sheepboy.

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