mugwump Posted June 30 Report Share Posted June 30 I'm the bigest sap in the entire world...I think I went through an entire box of cleenex(Blows nose)What a fucking movie!Holy shit I had no idea...Why did this film get suchbad reviews?It's probably one of thee mostheart touching, twisted,uber sci-fi flicksI've EVER seen about ArtificialIntelligence...(Next to Bladerunner of course)But my god..what visions fromSpielberg..what elegance in shot by shot..I HIGHLY RECOMEND THISFILM TO ANYONE THAT HAS LOVEFOR THIS GENRE.*Then again I love anythingto do with Arificial Intellience soI might be taken by the simple factthat I MYSELF AMA CLONED MUGWUMP.(And have had many affairs withRobots) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted June 30 Author Report Share Posted June 30 PLUS THE WEB SITE IS AMAZING! Check it out you can:CHAT WITH A CHATBOT(Actual "thinking" program thatcan have a one on one conversation with you)VIEW THE TIMELINE OF ROBOTSREAD ABOUT LOVE MACHINES(At some point in the future therewill be Robots that can "LOVE")*Watch interviews about whatscientists have to say on the subject.Go here:http://aimovie.warnerbros.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekefreak Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 yeah, i really liked the movie a lot. I don't get what was so bad about it. The one thing that I really didnt liek abotu it was that whoel drawn out ending. Right where he goes under water and sees the Blue princess thing in Coney Island, and the narrator starts talking about how he stayed there until he ran out of batteries or something, i was like, "holy shit, this was a great movie." But then it dragged on for another half an hour. i thought that would have been the best ending for that movie. whatever, it was still a great movie. If you liked the way he portrayed the future in that movie, check out Minority Report. Another good one, but IMO the ending got a little weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmikedr Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 1 of the best movies i ever saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by zekefreak yeah, i really liked the movie a lot. I don't get what was so bad about it. The one thing that I really didnt liek abotu it was that whoel drawn out ending. Right where he goes under water and sees the Blue princess thing in Coney Island, and the narrator starts talking about how he stayed there until he ran out of batteries or something, i was like, "holy shit, this was a great movie." But then it dragged on for another half an hour. i thought that would have been the best ending for that movie. whatever, it was still a great movie. If you liked the way he portrayed the future in that movie, check out Minority Report. Another good one, but IMO the ending got a little weak. I liked the ending better in A.Ithan Minority report...I liked the fact that the storytook a turn into a much, muchdeeper state of sci-fi..god like..almost like the end of 2001..I like that.I love to be surprised at the end..The under water ending would have beentoo predictable..Aliens bringing backDavids dead mother throughDNA cloning for a daywas BRILLIANT!What a masterpiece thismovie is..I watched BICENTENIAL MANright after it and it fealtsoweak..(Cute..but weak)NOW Go check out the site!QUICK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_high Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Can only agree that it was definitely nothing I expected. The shots were great, really well made movie...and I do understand the nose blowing mugwump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by flying_high Can only agree that it was definitely nothing I expected. The shots were great, really well made movie...and I do understand the nose blowing mugwump A robot that looses everyone around him..that wants to be a real boy!That loves but can't be acceptedby the rest of humanity..only aliens in the endgive him true hapiness..Hmmmm..I can relate to thaton so many levelsthat I thought my headwas gonna explode like a scene fromscanners..I've never had Sci-Fi move meto sobs like this one.CHECK OUT THE SITE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmikedr Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 "you can make a robot boy truley love a human,but can you make that human love him back?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialectics Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by apotheosis "you can make a robot boy truley love a human,but can you make that human love him back?" yes you can but when that robot never grows up and learns to live on its own its human owners will tire of it after a few years.... and throw it in the closet like that vibrator which was fun for a few laughs and made you feel good, but it ain't the real thing.zekefreak: i think they should have ended the film just a little bit later - right after the future robots find him, dig him up and say "he had contact with the humans" and we get a sense of how they are trying to dig up their own origins just like people are. and then ended it right there. if so, it would have been the greatest filmmaking masterpiece of our time. the rest of "we can bring her back but for just one day"... total b.s. and completely unnecessary.the sound you heard when teddy pulled out that 2000 year old hair was the sound of 200 hands in the audience slapping their own heads. without that crap it would have been an epic to be remembered for generations.peaz,rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codica3 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by zekefreak The one thing that I really didnt liek abotu it was that whoel drawn out ending. Right where he goes under water and sees the Blue princess thing in Coney Island, and the narrator starts talking about how he stayed there until he ran out of batteries or something, i was like, "holy shit, this was a great movie." But then it dragged on for another half an hour. i thought that would have been the best ending for that movie. Agreed.P.S. Jude Law.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 I loved the conceptthat the movie took you farther intothe future than you possibly couldhave expected it to be..The realm of future technology canonly appear GODLIKE and incomprehensableto a society that perhaps expectsbatteries to die after a short run..the film took you to ETERNITYand beyond..and that eternity had a heart..not cold like nor abstractand synthetic...the end was TRUE CYBER LOVE..true sci-fi geekdome.I LOVED THE ENDING.And it was a perfect irony thata robot child heldthe only key of humanities'lost history..Teddy was one smart toy..and the gift of DAVID'S clonedmother through DNA was themost beautifull thing Ihave ever seen in a sci-fimovie.Only cynicscould have never gotten it.THIS ROBOTDOES HAVE A HEART...You all need to go visitOZ..or in this case:"THE BLUE FAIRIE" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 The last 20 minutes definitely needed to be cut out... Other than that I liked it; it really made you think and was great at sparking debate. Too bad it wasn't solely Kubric's work tho, it would have been a hundred times better if Spielberg had no part in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothzane Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 The real son should have stayed in a coma =PWhere can I buy one of those teddy bears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by gothzane The real son should have stayed in a coma =PWhere can I buy one of those teddy bears? http://www.robotstore.com/catalog/default.aspTastyt:Though Kubrik was a bad ass..I think it would have taken a much, much slower pace than Spielberg..Don't knock the guy..His work MAY read as Sentimentalfluff..but that's why I like him..He puts a heart in sci-fi.HE IS THE BLUE FAIRIE.But to each his/her own...I recommend anyone who's beenreading this and hasn't seen it to run out and rent it emediately..WARNING:MUST NOT HAVE A SHORT ATTENTION SPAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothzane Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 I have it on DVD.Just bought the new uncut Dune...and I thought the first uncut one was f'ing longStill my favorite movie of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 I didn't like it. There were too many conflicting visions onf the future that didn't really add up. Like the rural location of the family's house, in relation to the robot facility, in relation to the city of sin, the redneck carnival, the sunken city. It all just didn't add up. What kind of society was this? It never became believable to me.I could go on, but I haven't seen it since it came out, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothzane Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 It made perfect sense....down to the world freezing over.The icecaps were melting....Think Waterworld.Only some parts of the world were above water.The rich lived in suberbs under strict laws.The red-necks as you say...or FleshFairers lived where they couldThe city of sin was where the rich went for fun...Las Vegas.The sunken city was probably a borderline city that was flooded by the icecaps..New York? Where the main cyborg lab was built to be protected from the FleshFairs.What got me was that the fleshfairs only went after the old, broken, or unauthorized robots....not all of them in general....intresting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chula22 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 I put off seeing that movie for so long because of the reviews, But then one day I just bought the DVD and I thought this movie was awesome. One of the best made Futuristic, sci-fi(or is it?) movies I have seen in a long time. I automatically fell in lov ewith Teddy and someday hope to have my very own teddy.But the endind was so trippy. Just to think that before september 11th, people could have watched the shot of manhattan under water and thought Nah. But to see WTC in that movie like that was just really trippy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by chula22 Just to think that before september 11th, people could have watched the shot of manhattan under water and thought Nah.. I had the samereaction..I literaly got butterfliesin my stomach when I sawNY under water...And I agree with Gothzane..The locations all madesense to me...I wish I could see moreintelligent Sci-Filike this..It's a lost art.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothzane Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Now that I read what I wrote...I sort od answered my own question...I do that alot..I think that the Fleshfair accepted robots as souless units under control....but once they went renegade...showed any sign of life...they became abomination.Im goig to stop reading into it....getting too religious for my tastes....but there is something intresting there.How creation forms into abomination.....which forms into humanity through a childs eyes....through love.Theres hope for us Demons yet...Originally posted by gothzane What got me was that the fleshfairs only went after the old, broken, or unauthorized robots....not all of them in general....intresting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastyt Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Originally posted by gothzane Now that I read what I wrote...I sort od answered my own question...I do that alot..I think that the Fleshfair accepted robots as souless units under control....but once they went renegade...showed any sign of life...they became abomination.Im goig to stop reading into it....getting too religious for my tastes....but there is something intresting there.How creation forms into abomination.....which forms into humanity through a childs eyes....through love.Oh religion definitely played a huge role in it... questioning that which is considered human and all that... the Fleshfairs stunk to high heavens of the holocaust... it was a spielberg movie after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 Based on a story collaborationbetween Kubrik and Brian Aldisscheck this out:Super-Toys Last All Summer Long by Brian Aldiss--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Aldiss, in a January 1997 interview with Wired Magazine, says that in the early 90's he Stanley Kubrick made two collaborative attempts to turn his story "Supertoys..." into a script. "I can't tell you how many directions we went. My favorite was when David and Teddy got exiled to Tin City, a place where the old model robots, like old cars, were living out their days. Stanley definitely had the ambition to make another big science fiction movie, but in the end, we didn't get anywhere. Stanley called in Arthur Clarke and asked him to provide a scenario, but he didn't like that, either...."I have a feeling, having worked with him, that he hasn't got the dashing confidence of youth," says Aldiss. "But of course, with age, you acquire a different sort of confidence." The director's creative vision, meanwhile, is clearer than ever. "Stanley embraces android technology," Aldiss notes, "and thinks it might eventually take over -- and be an improvement over the human race."The original drafts made by Aldiss and Kubrick became the starting point for his as-yet unfinished project A.I. Following the departure of Aldiss, Kubrick subsequently worked with authors Ian Watson and Bob Shaw. The film is currently under pre-production in London; few further details are currently known."Supertoys..." appeared first in Harper's Bazaar, and is ©1969 Brian Aldiss, all rights reserved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugwump Posted July 1 Author Report Share Posted July 1 You can read theshort story here:http://bbs.clubplanet.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=903101#post903101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickket Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 <<What do you thinkthis is ? A sci-fi geek board?>><<chirp>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glowgrlnyc Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Originally posted by mugwump What a fucking movie!Holy shit I had no idea...Why did this film get suchbad reviews?It's probably one of thee mostheart touching, twisted,uber sci-fi flicksI've EVER seen about ArtificialIntelligence...(Next to Bladerunner of course)But my god..what visions fromSpielberg..what elegance in shot by shot..I HIGHLY RECOMEND THISFILM TO ANYONE THAT HAS LOVEFOR THIS GENRE. I LOVED this movie!!! I saw it a couple of months ago and I was SHOCKED because I heard such bad reviews...It was one of the best movies ive seen all year.... didnt Stanley Kurbrick leave notes of ideas for this movie before he passed away?....and JuDE LAW :drool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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