dgmodel Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 MY FAV:i think im going to take this one over the bmw... this is the hotness b... im going to go with the 9-3 sport sedan with the aero kit... (red pic, but i think ill do silver) shit is off the hiiiiiizzzzoook!bigpoppa this is where you come in... what are some mods for this bebe, and how affordable is the car maintenance wise and insurance wise??? pros cons and comments in between... etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 that red one is pretty hot...i never liked saabs that much before... but damn... that IS the hotness...are those turbo? whats the specs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 General Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Base Price MSRP $32,495 $34,600 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Destination Charge $625 $695 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Body Style Sedan Sedan -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of Doors 4 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total Options $0 $5,700 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total Equipped Price $33,120 $40,995 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Performance Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Engine Name 2.0L I4 3.0L I6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cylinders 4 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Displacement (CC) 1988 2979 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Displacement (CI) 121 182 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horspower @ RPM 210@5500 225@5900 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Torque @ RPM 221@2500 214@3500 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turbocharger Standard Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Driveline Front Wheel Drive Rear Wheel Drive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Valves 16 24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Valve Configuration DOHC DOHC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bore X Stroke 3.38@3.38 3.31@3.53 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Compression Ratio 9.5 10.2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Standard Transmission Manual Manual -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Transmission Speeds 6 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manual Transmission Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Automatic Transmision Optional Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suspension (Front) Independent Independent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suspension (Rear) Independent Independent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Final Drive Ratio Not Listed 2.93 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fuel Capacity 16.4 16.6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fuel Economy (City) (mpg) Not Listed 21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fuel Economy (Highway) (mpg) Not Listed 30 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electronic Brake Assistance Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exterior Dimensions Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Wheelbase (in.) 105.3 107.3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Length (in.) 182.5 176.0 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Height (in.) 56.8 55.7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Width (in.) 69.0 68.5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curb Weight (Auto Trans) (lbs.) Not Listed 3362 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curb Weight (Manual Trans) (lbs.) Not Listed 3285 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interior Dimensions Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Head Room (front) (in.) 38.9 38.4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Head Room (rear) (in.) 37.0 37.5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leg Room (front) (in.) 42.3 41.4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leg Room (rear) (in.) 35.1 34.4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shoulder Room (front) (in.) 56.3 54.4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shoulder Room (rear) (in.) 55.1 54.2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cargo Volume (EPA.) (cu ft) 15 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Passenger Volume (EPA.) (cu ft) 90 91 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comfort & Convenience Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Air Conditioning Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Automatic Climate Control Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dual Zone Climate Control Standard Not Available -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cabin Filters Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Power Windows Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Power Locks Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steering Wheel Mounted Controls Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Headlamps Auto On/Off Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Illuminated Vanity Mirror Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tinted Glass Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leather Seats Standard Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leather Steering Wheel Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Genuine Wood Trim Optional Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Multi-Adjustable Power Driver Seat Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Multi-Adjustable Power Passenger Seat Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front Power Lumbar Support Not Available Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front Power Memory Seat Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front Heated Seats Optional Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rear Folding Seatback Standard Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AM/FM Stereo with Cassette Not Available Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CD Player Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Auto Dimming Rearview Mirror Standard Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heated Exterior Mirrors Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Automatic Tilt Down Exterior Mirrors Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memory Exterior Mirrors Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Telescopic Steering Wheel Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Power Sunroof Optional Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Safety Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Vehicle Anti-theft Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Radio Anti-theft Not Available Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vehicle Theft Tracking/Notification Standard Not Available -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remote Keyless Entry Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daytime Running Lights Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Front Side Airbags with Head Protection Standard Not Available -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rear Door Child Security Lock-out Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seat Belt Pretensioner Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Side Guard Door Beams Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Exterior Saab Advantage 2003 Saab 9-3 Sport Sedan Vector 2003 BMW 3 Series 330i sedan Fog Lights Standard Standard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rear Spoiler Optional Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Headlight Washers Standard Optional -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alloy Wheels Standard Standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebitch Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 hehe. dont get a saab, i used to have one, so did my bf, they were both nightmares. my next car i want a audi TT but i will probably end up getting another acura... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by dgmodel [bigpoppa this is where you come in... what are some mods for this bebe, and how affordable is the car maintenance wise and insurance wise??? pros cons and comments in between... etc... which model are you looking at in particular?my 9-5 has the 2.3 turbo; it was less to insure than the A6 3.0 and the Passat GLX; they are very safe and have low theft rates so that helps with insuranceno charge maintenence for 3 yearsmy engine is great on gassound system upgrade is well worth it....the system is designed by harmann-kardon (sp)...the same brand BMW usescons: auto transmissions questionable...but saab has introduced all new automatics for this year for both 9-3 and 9-5interior build quality not equal to that of BMWresale values not as good as 3 series but better than A4i havent test driven the 9-3 so i can't really say anything about the handling nor accelerationperformance:Saab does make its own exhaust systems, ECU upgrade is availalbe for my engine...not for 9-3 yethttp://www.saabperformanceparts.com/http://www.saabcentral.com/techhelp/performance_tuning.phpi havent seen anything out yet for the new 9-3...in the past most mods have consisted of exhaust, ECU, turbo and intercoolers..hopefully the new model will stir up more interesti also suggest looking up a 2002 9-3 Viggen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 what years did you both own???i had an audi.. i recently sold it.. i hate AOA and the dealership which i purchased it from... thats why my immiedate choice was to go with their #1 competitor (bmw)... blah etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by bigpoppanils which model are you looking at in particular?my 9-5 has the 2.3 turbo; it was less to insure than the A6 3.0 and the Passat GLX; they are very safe and have low theft rates so that helps with insuranceno charge maintenence for 3 yearssound system upgrade is well worth it....the system is designed by harmann-kardon (sp)...the same brand BMW usesdrives in snow pretty wellcons: auto transmissions questionable...but saab has introduced all new automatics for this year for both 9-3 and 9-5interior build quality not equal to that of BMWresale values not as good as 3 series but better than A4i havent test driven the 9-3 so i can't really say much elseperformance:Saab does make its own exhaust systems, ECU upgrade is availalbe for my engine...not for 9-3 yethttp://www.saabperformanceparts.com/http://www.saabcentral.com/techhelp/performance_tuning.phpi havent seen anything out yet for the new 9-3...in the past most mods have consisted of exhaust, ECU, turbo and intercoolers..hopefully the new model will stir up more interesti also suggest looking up a 2002 9-3 Viggen... good shit... thanks for the heads up... however on the exhaust issue... long long long time ago... when i was going to school and working p/t i worked for Saab... (one of the reasons i want to buy one now, to go back and rub it in my exbosses face) they had exhausts for sale.. whole units and ish... (sport onees of course im reffering to reg ass exhausts) did they discontinue them??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by dgmodel good shit... thanks for the heads up... however on the exhaust issue... long long long time ago... when i was going to school and working p/t i worked for Saab... (one of the reasons i want to buy one now, to go back and rub it in my exbosses face) they had exhausts for sale.. whole units and ish... (sport onees of course im reffering to reg ass exhausts) did they discontinue them??? nopewww.saabcatalog.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 at least its cheaper than what i bought for my audi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vixenfoxxy Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 *sniff* *sniff*I smell YUPPIE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 lol... :laugh: ...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by vixenfoxxy *sniff* *sniff*I smell YUPPIE!!!! and your precious Alfa isnt a yuppie car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 ...that's Alfas...you forgot to pluralize......i just found out that i can now apply my father's employee discount from GM to Saabs as well...so if anyone would like to negotiate a purchase, i can buy and transfer in six months for a nominal fee... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyrevs1 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 didn't the yuppies die out with the 80's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by phatman ...that's Alfas...you forgot to pluralize......i just found out that i can now apply my father's employee discount from GM to Saabs as well...so if anyone would like to negotiate a purchase, i can buy and transfer in six months for a nominal fee... how much of a discount and how much of a nominal fee??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by bigpoppanils and your precious Alfa isnt a yuppie car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 9.5:1 ratio on a turbocharged engine... that should be interesting...quick spool, but if you crank the boost up too much you're gonna go "BOOM"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by dgmodel how much of a discount and how much of a nominal fee??? ...i dont know marko...you bailed on the apartment...def. not on my good side......to be honest, i would have to go online and check it out...perhaps tonite if i get some time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Originally posted by joeg 9.5:1 ratio on a turbocharged engine... that should be interesting...quick spool, but if you crank the boost up too much you're gonna go "BOOM"... shoulnt be a problem...the last gen 9-3 had boost upgrades to the tune of 280hp (from 205hp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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