PROS the weather is great. It is beautiful here better community, better system for the people people are more laid back healthier lifestyle beaches Better produce Medical marijuana Much more employment for people outside finance Tons of creative gigs in entertainment and related fields wearing flip flops everyday 4 hours to vegas, 5 to san fran, 5 to phoenix CONS the traffic is horrible the people are not as straight forward & a bit phony because of that the city is spread out which kind of sucks IMO public transportation is a joke bars close early harder to go out and party b/c you have to worry about driving Lacking culture and history Living in the wrong area (like the valley/downtown vs. beverly hills/hollywood) no holiday spirit too many hacedics car insurance is very expensive & you have to have a car to get anywhere a 5 mile drive to work can take an hour (traffic again) cant find a good sandwich ANYWHERE farther from europe