mrslick Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Hey ClubPlanet people - this is Mr. Slick here, a fellow clubgoer who's been surfing here for a while but just joined. For a while now, I've noticed things getting worse and worse for NYC's dance scene (at least at the places where I am going), and like many people, I'm curious/guardedly hyped about the openings of Crobar and Spirit. After reading the post from the Crobar staff, I went over to crobar and posted the following message in the New York section of their bulletin board. Was wondering what my fellow New Yawkers thought about the current scene, and if any share my thoughts.Peace,Mr Slick--------------------------------------------------------------------------Hey CroBar folks, what's up? Just surfed on over here after seeing your "real deal" post on Clubplanet. Since this topic is about "Concerns", let me relate to you my personal view of New York's current situation: NYC desparately needs a more intelligent scene featuring world-class DJs. The nightlife here is suffering like you wouldn't believe. The horrible effects of 9/11 combined with the smoking ban, and most recently, a monthlong stretch of inclement weather, have all but decimated some of the night's best hotspots. This does not just pertain just to clubs - in many places you may visit in Manhattan, whether it be a bar, lounge, or some other venue, places just don't have the spark they used to. Crowds are thinning out and avid nightgoers, especially from the outer-borough/suburb crowd, are taking their money elsewhere. In turn they are being replaced by crowds that care less about where they go, and spend less money. Hip-hop nights are becoming increasingly popular because its the only form of music stepping up to take over all the deadened dance nights. In general, NYC, one of the worlds finest cities, the "capital of the world", suffers from what has become a very generic and unremarkable club scene. Despite the few clubs that continue to hold down awesome nights (Arc) and venues that OCCASIONALLY feature international/well-known acts (Roxy), this is not the norm. DJs of minimal talent, who spin mindless, repetitive dark beats are everywhere. Nights that advertise "progressive" DJs rarely deliver, serving up the same old deep sounds again and again. Trance, a form of dance music that counts millions of fans worldwide, and has an avid following/market in the greater NY area, is virtually nonexistant here. The same applies for other genres of electronic music such as breaks, jungle/jump-up, etc. I dig your motto: "Treat them better than they have ever been treated before". Well, if you want to follow through on that, especially for the just-turned 21 crowd who never experienced NYC back in its heyday, all you would have to do is deliver TALENT that is truly representative of dance music's global underground. Personally, I have a lot of hopes pinned on you guys, what with Spirit also opening sometime soon. Some friendly competition that brings in established DJs could serve to ignite a city that has been sleeping for way too long.Peace,Mr. Slick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassboy Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Has this guy scene Centro's line up lately?But I agree, where is that energy that everyone that is at the club is so excited to be there. That happens in NYC still, but far too seldom. It used to be a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcheme Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Originally posted by bassboy Has this guy scene Centro's line up lately? good point.and i agree with his post. i think saving new york is goign to be a lot more involved that opening a good club though. ppl need exceitemnt adn energy and a space cant save that. there is a missing element in this city that is killing nightlife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakbeatz2 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 I agree. Its not just the big names. Not to say anything bad about Centro, but evne though its bringing in big names, the energy and excite just isnt there. Maybe its that the novelty of te whole underground scene and big DJs is gone. I used to be excited every time i would go to Twilo, used to be anxious Friday afternoon, looking forward to the night. Now, regardless of whos spinning, its like, eh, another night.Shit, sounds like I'm getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msoprano Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Originally posted by hotcheme good point.and i agree with his post. i think saving new york is goign to be a lot more involved that opening a good club though. ppl need exceitemnt adn energy and a space cant save that. there is a missing element in this city that is killing nightlife. I know what you mean about the excitement of the crowd. LASt weak at centro fly for carl cox the vibe, excitement and the energy was off the charts. i walked into the club around midnight and the crowd was just buzzing, i mean really buzzing, i was totally amazed. last time i heard a buzz like that was in ibiza last summernyc def needs more events like that to get people excited...but i gotta adt centro on thurdays brings in the heavy hitters....keep it up urban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az-tec Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Originally posted by msoprano13 I know what you mean about the excitement of the crowd. LASt weak at centro fly for carl cox the vibe, excitement and the energy was off the charts. i walked into the club around midnight and the crowd was just buzzing, i mean really buzzing, i was totally amazed. last time i heard a buzz like that was in ibiza last summernyc def needs more events like that to get people excited...but i gotta adt centro on thurdays brings in the heavy hitters....keep it up urban Thanks man...we try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Evryody is btchig and complaining NYC IS DEAD. BULLCRAP. Gosh ya think becasue 2 places are opening then al of a sudden BOOM its HEAVEN ON EARTH. So what if nyc doesnt bring in international talent and so what if they do. If you go to a place that makes you feel good and a LOCAL RESIDENT dj is spinning why not accept him.So what if hes not gonna play a track thats not relased yet does it really matter. And all this about centro hey i was there for CARL COX to me no big deal he played great the crowd was feeling him. BIG DEAL danny tenaglia gets that everyweek. Everyone was feeling the opening dj for cox but if were to have a residency nobody would shw up casue NYC IS DEAD and has no internatinal talent BOOHOO. Nyc isnt dead as ya think, everybody knows of an underground or a great party thyat they go to everyweek and have fun at. Remember the old days people i wasnt even around then but i know whats it was like from my friends family. PARADISE GARAGE, LOFT , who was the INTERNATIONAL talent back then HUH? it was the best parties around. GOSH ya like euopean djs so much why not get your asses overthere already and stop whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris817 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Originally posted by silverbull Evryody is btchig and complaining NYC IS DEAD. BULLCRAP. Gosh ya think becasue 2 places are opening then al of a sudden BOOM its HEAVEN ON EARTH. So what if nyc doesnt bring in international talent and so what if they do. If you go to a place that makes you feel good and a LOCAL RESIDENT dj is spinning why not accept him.So what if hes not gonna play a track thats not relased yet does it really matter. And all this about centro hey i was there for CARL COX to me no big deal he played great the crowd was feeling him. BIG DEAL danny tenaglia gets that everyweek. Everyone was feeling the opening dj for cox but if were to have a residency nobody would shw up casue NYC IS DEAD and has no internatinal talent BOOHOO. Nyc isnt dead as ya think, everybody knows of an underground or a great party thyat they go to everyweek and have fun at. Remember the old days people i wasnt even around then but i know whats it was like from my friends family. PARADISE GARAGE, LOFT , who was the INTERNATIONAL talent back then HUH? it was the best parties around. GOSH ya like euopean djs so much why not get your asses overthere already and stop whining. AmenI'm glad people think NY is dead. They are out there just get it out of your head that they need to be at a superclub. All those places are good for is ripping you offCheck out the local talent they just might surprise youC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 Im waiting for one day or yr or decade lol. When the local talent that some of us already enjoy are huge or big. This was we can all be like wow we saw the evolution of a great LOCAL TALENT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az-tec Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 Originally posted by silverbull Im waiting for one day or yr or decade lol. When the local talent that some of us already enjoy are huge or big. This was we can all be like wow we saw the evolution of a great LOCAL TALENT. A lot of us have with the Low End Specialists...boys been on here(ClubPlanet) for years...used to post very regularly.spun every spot from Leopard lounge to Filter, Open Air, Vinyl, Factory even. Held down residencies with us at Groovejet and then Centro.Met them before they even became the LES, watched them just get bigger and bigger. Now look at ma boyz...Playing all over the world, Opening for Digweed this weekend. Holding down an insane residency for the last year. Playing everywhere from Ibiza w/Sander to San Fran to Denmark this summer. Records out on most labels, 2 Kiss Fm sets in the last year. My boys are doing very well for themselves.Lots of other local guys are blowing up proper. Im just extra proud of these guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 That was a good short story to read. BUt lets hope other people can get that chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az-tec Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 there are plenty of local guys blowing up right now...a few off the top of my headLee & CabreraAstro&GlydeNative Theory112 CrewTrendroidive known all these guys from when they were just local talent and now they are all getting the recognition they deserve on a worldwide level :D **Oh and there are definitely more, these are just a few off the top of my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINO nYc Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 Originally posted by az-tec there are plenty of local guys blowing up right now...a few off the top of my headLee & Cabrera Werdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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