bluenova Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Gretchen Dykstra, Commissioner of the Department of Consumer Affairs hasmade a most outragous proposal that would effectively destroy New York Citynightlife. Please read the attached email below and my response. Pleaseforward this to anyone you know who loves what New York City nightlife oncewas and should continue to be. There is a link below to file a complaint butif you don't have time, just RSVP with your name as I am putting togethera petition which will be sent to the commissinoer's office.-----Original Message-----Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:22:57 -0500Subject: NYC proposes closing clubs at 1amDear friends of NYC music, culture, and hang: There is a new NYC governmentproposal that will very seriously effect the ability of live music venues tostay open for our entertainment. This appeared onpage six of the New YorkPost:January 30, 2004 -- BAR and nightclub owners are in an uproar over aproposal that would require a "nightlife license" to stay open after 1 a.m.City Consumer Affairs Commissioner Gretchen Dykstra is pushing a plan thatwould require a special two-year license for any nightspot with a capacityof 75 or more where the music would be 90 decibels or higher. A place wouldbe padlocked for up to 10 days after three noise or other licenseviolations.David Rabin, president of the New York Nightlife Assn. and co-owner ofLotus, says Dykstra's plan would let the city effectively shut bars andnightclubs down at 1 a.m. "This bill will end up closing New York at 1a.m.," Rabin warned. "It's no longer going to be the city that never sleeps.We're united on this - everyone from the little bars to the biggestnightclubs. The best-run bar in the universe could not stay open under theconditions in this proposal."Please take a moment and go to the link below and send Gretchen Dykstra amessage in regard to this issue:http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/mail/html/maildca.html---------Here is the reply I wrote.... please add your name to the bottom.Dear Gretchen Dykstra,Your recent proposal for a "nightlife license" for clubs and bars to stay open after 1 a.m. could easily destroy New York city nightlife and in turn further hurt a struggling economy.It is difficult to see the logic in this, except the intention to raise revenue for city government by inflicting fines and high fees for these licenses. I would sincerely request that you consider the advantages and disadvantages of such a proposal.Advantages:More revenue for the city government by inflicting fines and fees on business owners.Disadvantages:Loss of revenue in the form of less taxes due to a dramatic drop in revenue and closings of thousands of small businesses.Loss of revenue for millions of affected businesses because of a dramatic drop-off in tourism and the money tourist spent in the "city that never sleeps" which would become the sleepy city.Millions in lost revenue for taxi and car services who drive millions of people home late at night.Loss of monies generated through future sales of liquor licenses. Who would dream of starting a new night club or bar/restaurant business under those regulations?Decrease in real estate value as a result of a mass exodus from the sleep ing city.Increase in crime as a result of over reaching laws.Personal defaming of those who would support laws which most people would findreflective of abuse of power.When you really think about it, and I'm sure you are an intelligent and thoughtful person with the best interests of New York City in mind, is there really any benefit to such proposal? If so, who will ultimately benefit?If there is something I am missing, I ask you to please explain the point of this proposal and how it will benefit the city at large.With Sincere Regards,1. Lance Jordan2. add your name here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarrd4life Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Eat a dik you Rat Bastards!! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsoto212 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 City will loose $$ if they came to a pause. In reality the city needs $$. Im gonna feel bad when the city is way up to par with funds and see them close and raid all the new spots and shut them down like they did to TWILO, TUNNEL ect ect.They shoudl just let things be the way it is and open eyes on crime.Victor Soto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someclown Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Originally posted by bluenova Gretchen Dykstra, Commissioner of the Department of Consumer Affairs hasmade a most outragous proposal that would effectively destroy New York Citynightlife. Please read the attached email below and my response. Pleaseforward this to anyone you know who loves what New York City nightlife oncewas and should continue to be. There is a link below to file a complaint butif you don't have time, just RSVP with your name as I am putting togethera petition which will be sent to the commissinoer's office.-----Original Message-----Sent: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:22:57 -0500Subject: NYC proposes closing clubs at 1amDear friends of NYC music, culture, and hang: There is a new NYC governmentproposal that will very seriously effect the ability of live music venues tostay open for our entertainment. This appeared onpage six of the New YorkPost:January 30, 2004 -- BAR and nightclub owners are in an uproar over aproposal that would require a "nightlife license" to stay open after 1 a.m.City Consumer Affairs Commissioner Gretchen Dykstra is pushing a plan thatwould require a special two-year license for any nightspot with a capacityof 75 or more where the music would be 90 decibels or higher. A place wouldbe padlocked for up to 10 days after three noise or other licenseviolations.David Rabin, president of the New York Nightlife Assn. and co-owner ofLotus, says Dykstra's plan would let the city effectively shut bars andnightclubs down at 1 a.m. "This bill will end up closing New York at 1a.m.," Rabin warned. "It's no longer going to be the city that never sleeps.We're united on this - everyone from the little bars to the biggestnightclubs. The best-run bar in the universe could not stay open under theconditions in this proposal."Please take a moment and go to the link below and send Gretchen Dykstra amessage in regard to this issue:http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/mail/html/maildca.html---------Here is the reply I wrote.... please add your name to the bottom.Dear Gretchen Dykstra,Your recent proposal for a "nightlife license" for clubs and bars to stay open after 1 a.m. could easily destroy New York city nightlife and in turn further hurt a struggling economy.It is difficult to see the logic in this, except the intention to raise revenue for city government by inflicting fines and high fees for these licenses. I would sincerely request that you consider the advantages and disadvantages of such a proposal.Advantages:More revenue for the city government by inflicting fines and fees on business owners.Disadvantages:Loss of revenue in the form of less taxes due to a dramatic drop in revenue and closings of thousands of small businesses.Loss of revenue for millions of affected businesses because of a dramatic drop-off in tourism and the money tourist spent in the "city that never sleeps" which would become the sleepy city.Millions in lost revenue for taxi and car services who drive millions of people home late at night.Loss of monies generated through future sales of liquor licenses. Who would dream of starting a new night club or bar/restaurant business under those regulations?Decrease in real estate value as a result of a mass exodus from the sleep ing city.Increase in crime as a result of over reaching laws.Personal defaming of those who would support laws which most people would findreflective of abuse of power.When you really think about it, and I'm sure you are an intelligent and thoughtful person with the best interests of New York City in mind, is there really any benefit to such proposal? If so, who will ultimately benefit?If there is something I am missing, I ask you to please explain the point of this proposal and how it will benefit the city at large.With Sincere Regards,1. Lance Jordan2. add your name here Excellent points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiDFresh Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 I highly doubt this will happen. The city cannot loose the revenues from club, bars & lounges. Besides the NYC night life does attrack ALOT of tourists!!! An action like this would hurt NYC image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest echoes Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 not a chance.but then again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djunity Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 ahh...more crap. another bored person trying to save the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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