obby Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 This is Michael Moore's letter to the owner of the Aladdin Hotel in Las Vegas regarding throwing Linda Ronstadt off stage because she dedicated a song to him plus a few other leftist, political remarks. The second letter is Mr Timmins' response to Moore._____Bill TimminsPresident, Aladdin Casino and HotelLas Vegas, NVJuly 20, 2004Dear Mr. Timmins:I understand from the news reports I've read that, after Linda Ronstadt, one of America's greatest singers, dedicated a song to me from your stage on Saturday night, you instructed your security guards to remove her from the Aladdin, which they did.What country do you live in? Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called "The First Amendment." This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as sacred. Many of our young people put on a uniform and risk their lives to defend it. My film is all about asking the questions that should have been asked before those brave soldiers were sent into harms way.For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises because she dared to say a few words in support of me and my film, is simply stupid and Un-American. Frankly, I have never heard of such a thing happening. I read that you wouldn't even let her go back up to her room at your hotel! Are you crazy? For crying out loud, it was a song DEDICATION! To "Desperado!" Every American loves that song! Sure, some people didn't like the dedication, and that's their right. But neither they nor you have the right to remove her from your building when all she did was exercise her AMERICAN right to speak her mind.Of all the things that go on in Las Vegas, this is what creates the need for serious action? What about the other half of the crowd at the Aladdin who, according to the Las Vegas Sun, cheered her when she made her remarks? Did you throw them out, too?I think you owe Ms. Ronstadt an apology. And I have an idea how you can make it up to her -- and to the millions of Americans you have offended. Invite her back and I'll join her in singing "America the Beautiful" on your stage. Then I will show "Fahrenheit 9/11" free of charge to all your guests and anyone else in Las Vegas who wants to see it.Mr. Timmins, as the song "Desperado" says -- "Come to your senses!" How can you refuse this offer? I await your reply.Yours,Michael MooreDirector, "Fahrenheit 9/11"_____ResponseJuly 21, 2004Attention: Michael Moore,In response to your letter dated July 20, 2004: You are correct that I had security remove Linda Ronstadt from Aladdin Casino and Hotel where the fun never ends and everybody wins.How very interesting to learn you are such a fan of Ms. Ronstadt. You questioned where I live and surprisingly knew Las Vegas is in the United States. You should visit it sometime. There are thousands of wonderful 'All You Can Eat' buffets.There are also a lot of casinos who's owners don't **** around. I am aware of the First Amendment and you have the right to talk about your hatred of America but once you are on my property and you are upsetting my guests, you will quickly learn about my rights.I can't remember if it was Jesus or George W. Bush that said, "Freedom is a two-way street." Ms. Ronstadt learned this long before I had her thrown out of my casino. You question my actions? If you come onto my property and upset my guests, you will receive the same, if not worse, treatment than Ms. Ronstadt received. I am sure your mere presence would upset my guests.You claim your film, "...is all about asking the questions that should have been asked before those brave soldiers were sent into harms way." I think your film does nothing but aid the enemy and hurt our troops. You have betrayed our troops, our leader and America. I have no respect for you or your vision of what America should be.I paid Ms. Ronstadt to entertain my guests, not divide them. The half that did not leave probably thought the verse you mentioned, "Why don't you come to your senses" was addressed to you. Maybe she should have dedicated her song, 'You're No Good' to you. I would have asked her back, had she done that.Regarding your request for me to apologize to her, have you and her on my stage singing anything about this Country and then playing your piece of **** film is ludicrous! One of my workers is currently throwing away every complaint letter from brainless followers of you, claiming they will never visit my Casino. I could not be more pleased to know my casino and hotel will always be void of the kind of people who support you. Meanwhile, my hotel has been quickly booked solid for the rest of the year with true Americans who love this Country and support our efforts overseas.They will see a framed copy of your letter and my response in the lobby to ensure they begin their experience with a laugh.Sincerely,BillTimminsPresident Aladdin Casino and HotelLas Vegas, NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absolutv Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deephousemann Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Michael Moore is nothing but a fucking scumbag ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobe2003 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Michael Moore is nothing but a fucking scumbag !Why is he a fucking scumbag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobe2003 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Wow . . . this is another "Urban Legend" as well . . . From http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/timmins.aspOrigins: Another brouhaha over entertainers' making political statements from the stage erupted in mid-July 2004 when singer Linda Ronstadt closed her performance at the Aladdin Casino & Resort in Las Vegas by praising filmmaker Michael Moore as a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth," encouraging the audience to see his movie Fahrenheit 9/11, and dedicating an encore performance of the song "Desperado" to him. Ms. Ronstadt's comments drew loud boos from the audience; some of the 4,500 concertgoers present walked out of the theater, while other more unruly patrons tore down concert posters and threw their drinks into the air. Aladdin President Bill Timmins described the incident as "a very ugly scene," saying that "[Ronstadt] praised [Moore] and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose." Mr. Timmins afterwards claimed that he didn't allow Ms. Ronstadt back in her luxury suite at the Aladdin and had her escorted off the property, maintaining that the singer's remarks "spoiled a wonderful evening for our guests and we had to do something about it." He added that "As long as I'm here, she's not going to play." (Ms. Ronstadt had only been booked for a single performance at the Aladdin anyway.) Mr. Timmins' statements prompted an open letter to him from Michael Moore, which the filmmaker posted on his web site. However, although Mr. Moore's letter was real, the putative caustic response to it from Mr. Timmins quoted above is not — it was a "Here's what I wish he had said" suggested reply penned by someone else. Last updated: 17 August 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionary Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 ResponseJuly 21, 2004Attention: Michael Moore,I am aware of the First Amendment and you have the right to talk about your hatred of America... Sincerely,BillTimminsPresident Aladdin Casino and HotelLas Vegas, NVWhen has Michael Moore ever said he hates America? NEVER!!! In fact he has repeatedly said the opposite. He makes his films because he wants to see the country he loves improve. It's pathetically sad that people in this country can't even tolerate differing opinions. They immediately label anyone who disagrees with them as unAmerican. THAT is what's unAmerican.I guess being American now-a-days means just gobbling up everything Fox News spits out and not asking questions about anything that might expose corruption in this country. How dare anyone propose our government does things that don't show up on the evening news? Michael Moore is not guilty of anything our own mass-media isn't guilty of... biased reporting. People just seem to be so bothered by him because finally that practice is being used to push a different opinion.Truth hurts sometimes... deal with it. America is far from perfect and keeps getting worse with every day that Americans look the other way and let the bullshit continue. If you love America, you should want to fix it too. sotuchick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tres-b Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Listen, Linda, we didnt hire you to think. You are much like the dancing monkey on the hot pavement. If you cant keep your fat mouth shut about that traitor Moore, we are going to fire you.I love it. All the fat country singers(Dixie Chicks, Rondstadt) like Moore and hate Bush. It must be the brotherhood of cellulite that bonds them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tres-b Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Fox slants right, CNN slants left, and MSNBC falls somewhere in between. If you watch all three, you will see that the stories are pretty much the same with a lean one way or the other. Moore just lies, distorts truth and pretends his fantasy theory is reality.That is a huge difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionary Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 I love it. All the fat country singers(Dixie Chicks, Rondstadt) like Moore and hate Bush. It must be the brotherhood of cellulite that bonds them together.I'd hate to speculate the possible ties that bond Bush supporters. It just wouldn't be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siceone Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 When has Michael Moore ever said he hates America? NEVER!!! In fact he has repeatedly said the opposite. He makes his films because he wants to see the country he loves improve. It's pathetically sad that people in this country can't even tolerate differing opinions. They immediately label anyone who disagrees with them as unAmerican. THAT is what's unAmerican.I guess being American now-a-days means just gobbling up everything Fox News spits out and not asking questions about anything that might expose corruption in this country. How dare anyone propose our government does things that don't show up on the evening news? Michael Moore is not guilty of anything our own mass-media isn't guilty of... biased reporting. People just seem to be so bothered by him because finally that practice is being used to push a different opinion.Truth hurts sometimes... deal with it. America is far from perfect and keeps getting worse with every day that Americans look the other way and let the bullshit continue. If you love America, you should want to fix it too.First of all there is a big difference between wanting to fix america and having a dissenting opinion, and going to other countries and bashing this country. Which Micheal moore has done all, infact when he is in europe he does it all the time. When you say that the president of this country lied when clearly he did not (this is backed up by numerous other people including other heads of state), that is not HELPING anyone. Distorting the truth IS NOT HELPING it's not healing. Everyone is Entitled to thier own opinion. and Im entitled to an opinion about your opinion, don't think so ? Try and STOP ME!!! just because you have a differening opinion doesn't mean I have to Accept it I only have to tollerate it and not interfere with your opinion where you have the right to have it. This is america Not Communist Russia. If you come into my house and you then become an unwelcome guest. I have the right to kick you out and slam the door in your face. because your right to free speech is modified by my right to property. so one last time Tolerance is To allow without prohibiting or opposing; permit.No where in there does it say that we have to LIKE IT OR EMBRACE IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igloo Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 When has Michael Moore ever said he hates America? NEVER!!! In fact he has repeatedly said the opposite. He makes his films because he wants to see the country he loves improve. It's pathetically sad that people in this country can't even tolerate differing opinions. They immediately label anyone who disagrees with them as unAmerican. THAT is what's unAmerican.I guess being American now-a-days means just gobbling up everything Fox News spits out and not asking questions about anything that might expose corruption in this country. How dare anyone propose our government does things that don't show up on the evening news? Michael Moore is not guilty of anything our own mass-media isn't guilty of... biased reporting. People just seem to be so bothered by him because finally that practice is being used to push a different opinion.Truth hurts sometimes... deal with it. America is far from perfect and keeps getting worse with every day that Americans look the other way and let the bullshit continue. If you love America, you should want to fix it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionary Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 No where in there does it say that we have to LIKE IT OR EMBRACE IT.Nowhere did I say you had to like it or embrace it. I was only making the point that MICHAEL MOORE DOES NOT HATE AMERICA, despite what people who disagree with him want you to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotuchick Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Michael Moore Fidel Castro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattbateman Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 michael moore is a fat ass fuckhead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk4 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 we should of known it was wrong when the first line is "Linda Ronstadt, one of America's greatest singers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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