ok,, i understand that drugs alter one's state of mind by enhancing certain sensations, but isn't that all drugs are: an orgasm in itself... i mean, i could have sex with a girl and not be totally there but LOVE the sex... however, if i'm not doing drugs, i'll totally be there, 100%, knowing what i'm doing and being closer without the drugs getting in the way.... kinda like a buddhist thing where we try to free Klesha (attachments, like drugs) and feel something on a higher level without the need of mind-altering substances (Nirvana)...((long live Kurt Cobain)) Anyway, all i'm saying is i think there's a place for drugs, and a place for sex, and i think they CAN be mixed, but you won't find meaningful sex with drugs in the way