I personally boy-cotted that place MONTHS ago... Too bad cause I like hearing Vaughn & Sheldon in there.... and too bad for them.... & I warn ALL of my friends before they go karmalounge : I respect your post and your attempt help ease the situation... but for me and a LOT of industry professionals, most of the issues I or anyone else had with the place could have easily been resolved BEFORE it was a problem..... Sorry But there was too much BAD KARMA for me Thank good for SONAR! Guyman try SONAR... I think You'll like it