Personally i think its been on "life-support" since sometime around 2000. For one reason thats when E blew up all over on network news and in the papers more than ever. The scene has commercialized so much in recent years, which isnt entirely a bad thing for many reasons (to much to get into). The commercialization though definately has brought down many parties with people who wouldnt normally venture to these places go to get banged up or the "in-place" to be. Promoters are horrible and pretty much clueless. Can it all go back to early-mid 90's of the days of Astro , Richie Rich and all the other club kids of that time, i say never. Its all about $$$ now, cant blame the owners though. Though the real start of the downfall was when all the BS with Gatien at the Tunnel and Limelight vs NYC. Either deal with it or its time to move on, ive pretty much moved on than goin to the places accept occasionally heading out. Thats just a small part of many problems in the NYC scene.