true true..i know exactly whatcha guys are saying. unfortunately, there's too many immature, annoying people around who will say something like....."this isn't the music board! go over there and post about music"...that's annoying. and most of the tempts ppl around here don't listen to the whole tiesto/oakenfold/vandyk tuneage because the are raised to believe...if it ain't hard, it ain't worth it. then they hear 643 vs. hideU, and they're like damn....thats a phat bass line behind the vocal....i don't judge though ..to each his own.