now i wasn't gonna say anything because i have a feeling this post was just to bust balls, but not entirely.. i think some truth was behind the statement and it bothers me only because there are some folks WITH MORE THEN ONE STAR who say some pretty dumb shit... if you don't agree with what someone (newbie, god/goddess) says, then just throw up a reply... but don't go around and say newbies have no say... like it has been previously said... you were once a newbie too and i'm pretty sure if that was posted in "your time" you'd be pretty pissed off too.... but eh, enough... this was dumb as hell and i should have just skipped it... ------------------ the secret of being a bore is to tell everything ~vOLTAIRE