nabuc1

I've been reading topics on this forum for some time now, but this is my first post here. Mandela makes some relevent points in his statement. I don't think thsi country should go off all attacking anyone without proper cause. I personally think Saddam is a threat, but we do not have concrete evidence that he is building weapons of mass destruction. The UN should give him an ultimadium. Let the inspectors back with unlimited access or face the consiquences. Give him one more bite at the apple. As far as Mandela's remarks about this countries only interest being oil and arms, I have to disagree with him. Iraq is a threat and I'm not going to sit here and spew out conspiracy theories about Iraq being involved with 9/11. He is perfectly capable of developing biological, chemical, or even maybe nuclear weapons. I know he doesn't have the long-range capabilities to attack us directly, but what is to stop him from passing these weapons to terrorist factions who would. Also his point about Isreal having weapons of mass destruction is plain ass stupid. I highly doubt that Isreal would use such weapons or even sell them to a terrorist group. Saddam needs to be dealt with, but we shouldn't go shooting our guns off like some cowboys.

I've been here, there, and a little bit of everywhere. Haven't posted much as of late, been exteremly busy at work. What's up with you?

I have learned to appreciate the little things and live each moment to it's fullest. I have also have a different outlook on life. On the down side though it has changed the way I veiw the world. Since that day I feel like I lost the world I remembered as a child.

I totally agree that the owners are making a killing off of the players, but I don't feel sorry for the players at all. Football, basketball, and hockey (I'm not sure about hockey) all have salary caps and that is why there is more of a level playing field. Yes you have your usual power-house teams in every sport, but the opportunity for other teams to aguire top players is there. In baseball only the large market teams can get the big name players. You have a team like the Texas Rangers who will never win a championship because they can only get a samll handfull of top notch players because they forked over all their money for two or three players. Mean while you have a team like the Yankees or the Braves who have bottomless pockets and can basically buy and All-Star team and win championships year after year. The players don't want a salary cap, they don't want a luxury tax. It's going to get to the point where most team will not be able to afford to pay for any good players. I'm sorry but when a rookie who sits the pine can make $200,000 a year I feel no sympathy for them.

Saleen for once I am in total agreement with you. The minimum salary in the majors is $200,000 a year. That is over 100% more than a firefighter with 10 yrs on the job makes and they risk their asses to save people. It is fucking sad hearing a fucking pecker like A-Rod who makes over $130,000 PER GAME, say that the owners are screwing the players out of money. I would love to see some of these players get a REAL job, with REAL salaries. I for one will never attend another baseball game (I haven't since the first strike). I know I'm one person and Steinbrenner could careless If one or a hundred people stopped forking over their hard earned cash, but I refuse to give these geady bastards my money.

Then the court should have passed that ruling. That no school should force a child to say the pledge. But they deemed it uncostitutional and now it is not even allowed to be recited in school. That is just plain fucked up. This guy opened up Pandora's Box.

You make a great point, but my whole problem with this is if he doesn't want his daughter to say the pledge because of the reference to god fine that is his choice. By taking this to the courts he has now imposed his opinion on school children in 9 states who otherwise might not have a problem with the pledge. Where are their constitutional rights to free speech. So to meet the need of one they have denied the rights of thousands. In my opinion that is simply idiotic. Now if this where to go further and be instituted across the country. I could easily go to court and say that my son's right to free speech is being infringed upon because he is not allowed to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. I call this man an idiot because he, and this is my belief, is not doing this because his daughter rights are being violated. By reciting the Pledge, and I welcome anyone to argue this point, you are not being forced to believe in any religious diety. As I stated early now where in the pledge does it say I pledge my allegiance to God the almighty savior. He is a moron because he took his idea and fought it to the unreasonable point that it is now imposed an people who didn't ask for it. So yes he does have a right to his ideas and beliefs, he is doing exactly what he stated the government was doing to his child, to countless other children. In my book that is a HYPOCRIT!!!

it just urks me when people sit there are start up with this tireless arquement that this country is fucked up and it oppresses it people and infringes on there god given rights. They have absolutely no damn clue what they are talking about. i used to think the same way when I was in college. All full of new idealistic views ready to start up a social revolution. Then i graduated and finally got my head out of my ass and the pot induced fog my brain was swimming in and realized and the rest of the world is no better than here. My parent immegrated from Cuba where my father was forced to join the military and fight/protect a government he did not support. My grandmother and mother where sent off to work camps to harvest sugar cane in support of their government (my mother was 16 yrs old) so i know from the horror stories that my family have told me how lucky , no let me refrase that privelaged I am to have been born and still living in the country where you have choices. So face reality there is no such thing as a perfect government of this Marxist dream of Utopia. The closest thing to it is right under your feet.

phuturephonk no government/country is perfect. Countries are run by people and we are all imperfect. The one truth that this country has is freedom. how many other country would you be allowed to freely oppose the government or actually sue the government to have the pledge of it's fag banned from public schools. that I no of NON. So though this country and the people who run it are flawed it still is the best damn place to be. I have and still do not agree with many things this country does, but it sure as hell beats living in 95% of the other countries in this world. In my opinion if you do not like the way it's run no one is stopping you from leaving it. The guy who brought on the law suit first tried in in Florida and it was denied. His whole arguement was that he is athiest and his daughter is being raised athiest and he did not want his daughter going to school and be forced to say the pledge because it promotes religion. i was always under the impression, correct me if I am wrong, that the Pledge was an symbolic oath pledging your support to your country. No wher in it does it state I pledge my allagiance to God, jesus, allah, vishnu, and/or Buddha, etc... He stated that he is an American and does not appreciate having his country tell him or his daughter who or what to worship. Maybe he would be happerier in a country where you are forced to worship a certain diety and if you don't you are killed or where his daughter does not even have the right to an education. He is a fucking hypocrit in my mind. He stand there claiming the rights this country affords him, but in the same breath spits on that same country. He is an idealistic moron who is trying to make a name for himself by starting a hopeless and completely fucking idiotic cause. So no matter how far we have fallen from the dream of freedom that you claim we have it is still 110% better than any of the alternatives.

There are a few good cartoons left, not many. I used to watch He-man, GI Joe, and the Transformers religiously when I was a kid. GI Joe now that's a cartoon they should bring. Instead of Cobra they could battle al Quada. Bin Laden running with Duke and Snake Eyes in hot pursuit atop an M1 Abrahms.

No people who work outside have every right to BITCH and BITCH the loudest. I feel for the construction workers I saw on my way to work this morning.

So far it's only being enforced in 9 states out west, but I sure you will get copycat idiots protesting about the pledge in just about every state. The pledge has no mention of religion, it does not enforce you allegience to any religious order. In my opinion if you have a problem with the pledge then get the hell out of the country.

The problem is that everyone is so GODDAMN (no specific god) fucking PC. No one wants to say anything that might even be in the remotest way be some what offense to anyone. I don't even know how long the pledge has been around but since I have known it I have never heard anyone complain about it. Now all of a sudden it's unconstitutional. It's a sad day in this nations history when it's judicial system finds the pledge of it's flag unconstitutional for the use of the word God.

I feel like getting a bull horn and stand in front of the Federal Court house downtown and repeat the pledge over and over again until my damn voice gives out. I would like to meet the individual(s) who brought this to the courts so I can spit in their damn faces.

That rain didn't do shit. I went outside thinking it would be a little better, NOT!!! It's like a God damn steam room. I hate this weather. I am so dreading leaving work because I have to walk out there.

A Federal court in San fransisco has ruled that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional because it states "one nation under God". How exteremly stupid is this. What the hell is happening to our country?

I have to agree with you. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. All because it states "one nation under God".

When ever I walk down into the subway it feels like I'm wrapped up in plastic wrap. It is truely disgusting. The air is so heavy and stagnant.

Almost forgot about them. There is just no relief. Even walking outside to get lunch on a day like today is miserable. I usually sit in Central Park to eat but today is an order in type of day. Tomorrow is supposed to be worse than today.

Shit try walking 21 blocks in Midtown in this weather. I wore a t-shirt to work and had one in my bag so I could change it once I got to my office. Fucking sucks and taking the subway is no better because it's like 20 degres hotter down there.

This is all Eminem's fault

Felt like contributing

Hey laurie, I'm looking for a golf partner. No I'm not female but you can still go pick up guys while I surching for my ball in the rough, water, trees, etc..

notallthere I have to admit that one was actually a bit entertaining. You do add some fun to this board.