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Originally posted by aeroplano
most of the times i have been to space i have had to deal with a ridiculous wait,
well....unfortunately, when you have 3000 people going to a club, there is going to be lines.....as a matter of fact, I think Space does a pretty good job of getting everyone in in an orderly fashion....it's not like some clubs where there is a big mob outside the club and the doorman picks people out of a crowd....at Space if you stand in line you're in...
Originally posted by aeroplanooutrageous prices,
what outrageous prices?? are the prices any more than any comparable venue in town? what are you talking about? cover? drinks? parking? think about a night on the beach......I'd say you spend alot more if you are across the causeway from Space....
Originally posted by aeroplanorude doormen/doorwomen,
I've never met a doorman I liked
Originally posted by aeroplanoand a really pathetic crowd.
we can't all hang with the elite A-crowd like yourself...
Originally posted by aeroplanonow you tell me, oscar g, you being a dj, is this what clubbing is all about?? now you know why we gave up on space and why some of us are loyal to rain... we FINALLY found a place where it's all about the music.
who is "WE"?? from the looks of this thread, not everyone is ready to cast Space aside....I like Rain myself (I've played there and they have offered me a residency) but there is no way you can compare Rain to Space......Rain is a lounge....Space is a mega-club........and what is this "all about the music" crap.....no club is all about the music...a club is what you make of it....
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Originally posted by phrankadelic
pete, look what place you're talking about. if you are in search of real music, real people and NO stress...there are plenty of other options. rain on friday being one of them. they know how to throw a party. space is definitely not the place.
you know what they say about opinions.......
I guess real music is a matter of personal taste.......
how often do you go to Space?
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Originally posted by djdekan
Those who have met up with me know I am a passionate person about Electronic Music (From Trance to House to Breaks so on an so on) Clubbing, and THE SCENCE.
BUT
Saturday Night @ Space I saw and have been seeing but not realizing how disgusting, clueless, lame, horrid and pathetic people and the scence have become. I Take music serious, why dont other people. Do people have to eat 6 pills, bump an ounce , drink a bottle and dress like shit to have a good time. What the FUCK has happened, where did all the people who feel like I feel go.
Sooooooooooooooo I have decided not to ditch the scence because I love it and I know it may be on its way out, but I dont want to see that happen. But in a semi Protest type of way I am going to show people starting Friday that Its the Music that Matters NOT the drugs and Stop Drinking and Dropping and start Listen and Dancing.
Pete (DJDekan)
AMEN TO THAT!!!!
I could not agree with you more.....beleive me there are plenty of people who feel the same way you do....I spin on Saturdays at Space for 10+ hours and have yet to have a drink or touch any drugs.....All I require is adrenalin and the music that I love and have dedicated most of my life to....There is a core group of people who are regulars on Saturdays that are there for the music from beginning to end(and it's growing weekly)....I play for
them....remember Space is a huge club (3000 people every Sat) you are going to get all kinds of folks in there....
my theory is:
Don't sit home and bitch about a scene you are not a part of......go out and make it better...
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Originally posted by edgarv
I HAVE BOOTLEG CD PROMO'S I'M SELLING WHICH INCLUDES 2 UNRELEASED MIXES
Yo buddy.....don't make me post up those encriminating pics I have of you with a certain topless girl...
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Well....actually....I will acknowledge this thread:)
Thanks bbflux...I appreciate it! (especially from my hometown peeps)
BTW: you guys are on it! it just got promoed.....
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hmmm....
I always though the "undesirables" lived on the beach...
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Originally posted by noira
Look Oscar, everyone has their opinions, and are entitled to them. Based on my personal experiences in the music scene, I don't like Space. I don't appreciate the way I was treated there, and I don't like Louis' superscilious attitude. But that's MY opinion, and I realize I'm in the minority.
I totally respect your opinion....
Originally posted by noiraI DO find clubowners/managers and the like who DO take care of their clubs on a very personal level. Many clubs I've been to ARE built around the dj booths, sometimes designed by dj's the owners know will give it the right touch to make the club that much better. And these clubs don't charge an arm and leg for events, special or not special. They dont charge exorbiant amounts of money for liquour or water. Their security guards are a polite group, ones you'd be willing to go to for help. Their owners don't post messages about how they're going to educate their customers - that's belittiling.
where are these clubs built around the DJ??? in Miami???
do you find Space's cover charge or drink prices any higher than its competition????? 20$cover for a 24 hour club doesn't seem that hight to me....not to mention the cover is always 20$ before midnight no matter how special the events is.....
Originally posted by noiraLike I said, everyone opts for their own clubbing experience. I just don't understand why miami, supposedly one of the mecca's for clubbing, would choose to abused in such a manner - I would think that people would demand better treatment. And this is not just Louis' fault - the Miami scene perpetuates this attitude, this callous treatment of its customers.
Did you personally get treated in an offensive manner at Space???
I don't think most people feel abused ??? (I hope)
Originally posted by noiraLastly, you say its "all about house music" - and I KNOW you're house music, have listened to some of your stuff wayyyyyyyy back
but I'm afraid I don't consider Deep Dish house, not since Yoshiesque 1. I think that was their last housy album, and most of the stuff on Yoshitoshi is more of the prog-house or tech-house bent. Not good house. I wish him all the luck in the club, but if he thinks getting Deep Dish is going to entice true house-heads :lol - not in a million years - Deep Dish - now that "ain't" house...This is the part of your post that troubles me the most, and I also think it is the most telling of what your gripes stem from....You are obviously a person who likes their house music the old fashioned way (or not at all) I for one consider Deep-Dish very much HOUSE.....House music has evolved tremendously and maybe you have failed to come along on the journey....Since when can't prog-house or tech-house be good house??? or house at all for that matter???
true house-heads??? LOL
I guess since you feel you can determine what real house is you can also determine who the true house-heads are....
Take it from me.....I have known Ali and Sharam for almost ten years....they are TRUE house-heads.....whats next? let me guess......Danny Tenaglia "ain't house either right??
Deep Dish IS house.....and the true house-heads recognize that!
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Damn Noira.....you seem pretty bitter there.....
I should know for many years I sat at home and bitched about a scene I didnt really participate in also....but I have to tell you , that is the easy way out.
I have been deeply involved in House music and it's evolution on a proffesional level since 1990 and as a fan from way before that. From 1992 till 2000 I was pretty much gone every weekend spreading the gospel of House music all over the world.
In July of 2000 I began recording an album for MCA records....at this time my partner and I decided to stop traveling until we finished the album....coincidently this was around the same time that Louis and Space offered me a Saturday night residency...I was very skeptical (to say the least) because I knew Miami was primarily a Trance town but Louis assured me that he was willing to stick with me through the transition.......
This was at the height of my good friend Edgar's popularity and Friday nights were packed...It took quite a few months....but to my surprise....Louis stuck with his plan to create a legitimate house night.
Beleive me it would have been alot easier (and more profitable) for him to go with the flow and give the masses what they wanted to hear at the time...TRANCE....but for some reason he stuck to his guns and now we are 3000 strong every Saturday....In my opinion THAT IS making a difference.....
Are you aware that Louis himself was a DJ for many years (and a pretty damn good one at that) Long before his current success he was the resident at one of the first truly underground clubs in this city (the original Salvation in downtown) Are you aware that several years ago Louis opened a club called DownTown which was dedicated to underground dance music, but was so ahead of its time (in musical format and location) that it went by the wayside....
There aren't many clubowners who you walk in and find on the floor replacing speaker components or walk in to the booth every once in a while and mix a couple of records...There aren't many clubowners who build the DJ booth first and then the rest of the club around it (usually it is the other way around)
Love him or hate him (and I have done both at times:)) Louis is the real thing....and before you continue to make accusations and rip him I think you should inform yourself.....
He has just opened a new club with the slogan "Its all about House music" Do you think there is some huge financial gain to be made from this??? Some would say this is a mistake because it is pigeonholing the club into one genre of music....But once again he is standing by his beleifs...and Deep Dish is not too shabby...
Its alot easier to sit back and bitch about the scene....but luckily there are some of us that have decided to do something about it....
PEACE:)
OSCAR G.
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Originally posted by meng
The horn does it's job at Space and it makes everyone go off...this is very true.........but could you imagine if you included the horn on a CD?.........it wouldn't make sense and essentially it is all about the music, isn't it?...........anyways, let's not go around in circles.....fact is that the horn does it's job at Space.....but if it were for me, I'd rather just let the music do it all by itself.....
*respect*
I heard a siren on Body & Soul Vol. 2.....it sounded pretty good to me........that reminds me, its not only a Miami thing.....the crowd goes off at Vinyl in NYC when they hit the siren.....
To me the music and effects are totally seperate...music is always the main course, but its nice to have side dishes....
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Originally posted by meng
.....and Oscar, I was given the chance and I didn't use the horn. Personally, I think it gets in the way of the music. It's just my taste. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it. I'm just saying that I hate it.
Try it when there is 3000 people in the club and they are all jumping up and down with they're hands in the air!
Beleive me, at the time and on the night you played your set, it would have been totally inappropriate for you to hit the horn (I usually don't go near it until 3AM)
I think you are taking the horn a little too seriously. I don't see what it has to do with the music either. To me the horn is just another effect to enhance the overall experience, along with lights, fog, decor, nitrogen, siren etc...
Don't just take it from me, every world renowned guest Dj we have had at the club from Danny Tenaglia (who loves it) to Deep Dish to Paul Van Dyk and Tiesto, every single one of them ,with the exception of John Digweed (who was unaware that it was there because he wasnt told like everyone else) has hit the horn.
It is just a great way for the DJ to show emotion and excitement about a certain song he is playing. Not to mention it really gets the crowd going also.
I'm not saying that you should use it. Im just saying that I like it. (and so does every other Dj that has played there except you:))
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Originally posted by sgtfury
LAY OFF THE HORN!!!!......ha ha....just kidding bro...you were tearing sh*t up last night....from a DJ's perspective, Oscar is amazing in the booth....
:laugh: Thanks bro!
Meng: I have a feeling, if given the chance, you would be on that horn like white on rice.......
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Hey stop making fun of my dad!!!!
MR. GA2 THAT IS SOME FUNNY SHIT!!!!!!!!
(I'm flattered to see you were doing some research on me though
)and just for the record, I'm Cuban to the bone:D
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Originally posted by mikeydny
yeah thats why i figured it was the wrong mix, it was a lil too hardcore, i think this might be it...
CHICAGO JAXX - DIRTY BITCH (CASSEPOYA POWER MIX)
I havent downloaded it yet, but this is the i.d. someone gave me.
CORRECT!!
(the mix you heard me play was the original mix though)
both mixes are pretty good.....
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Originally posted by miamijosh
Wanted to come up and say hello, but Lewis told me you wouldn't even let OscarG up in the booth with ya
HUH?????
see what I mean about the facts.....
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Originally posted by bbflux
awww c'mon, Oscar....
Don't be upset. BTW, if you refer to the first post you'll see that I thought you were "TURNING IT OUT" earlier on in the evening. We were ALL movin' and grovin' to the sounds. The tribal thing just got excessive later on, in my opinion. It could have been you or Danny T. It wouldn't have made a difference to me.I hear ya' and I got nothing but love for ya'
Originally posted by bbfluxBTW, just for the record, I didn't dance to that first track DT played and I was gone by 6:30am (I can't party like I did in my 20s anymore). So I didn't notice if you guys switched off or not. Anyway, sorry if you've taken my post the wrong way.
ummm...that first song was my new record on Junior UK, but ANYWAY;) not in my 20s anymore??? that's no excuse!!!!
Originally posted by bbfluxBTW, if you or anyone else could ID the beautiful vocal track you played that packed the floor at about 2:00am. I can't even remember the lyrics but what I do know is that it was the vocals that really carried the track. Beautiful.
That beautiful vocal track (which happens to be my favorite record of the moment) is Andrea Brown "Trippin' ")
You have great taste!!
It's funny....I've been playing that song for a while now and it always seems to kill the floor, only now are people starting to get into it. Thats Miami for ya'.... I'll never understand it.....Seems like you have to beat people over the head with shit for them to get it.....OH WELL...
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Originally posted by phrankadelic
i don't even like what most of the djs @ space play. but that's just my taste. my opinion. if you don't like it, then don't dj. you're succeptible to criticism. there are many that don't feel the same way i do. and they are the ones that are there week in...week out.
not everyone has to like what you do. that's what makes us individuals. for every person that doesn't support a local, there are 10 others that will. so just b/c that one person chooses to voice his opinion, that doesn't mean that others feel the same.
I am totally open to criticism and welcome it.....why else would I even read this board?
But I am entitled to an opinion as well as everybody else. I was just expressing my thoughts on this board like everyone else.
If you don't like it, then don't read it.
I was also just trying to shed some light on some of the issues you guys were talking about. I figure it's better to form an opinion based on facts.
IT'S ALL GOOD:)
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WOW! THANKS FOR ALL THE SUPPORT GUYS!
PSSSSSSI don't mind criticism, but it needs to be based on fact.....
For example THE HORN...before Danny went on I hit the horn on two songs and one of the times it was Danny who did it. (BTW: Danny hit the horn in his set more times than I ever have, but I guess it's OK when "DT" does it)
Danny wanted to go on at 4AM...he arrived at the club at 2AM and told me he wanted to hang out and listen to me for a while because he never gets a chance to hear me. He was dancing for most of that time in front of the booth and shining his flashlight at me. He enjoyed my set (but I guess his taste is different from you guys) or maybe he's just not a jaded Miami clubber who can't bring themselves to enjoy a local DJ (no matter how global that DJ is) Danny actually wanted to go on at 6AM but I told him I was as eager to listen to him as everyone else.
Another funny thing is that everyone agrees that Danny's set was great. So I guess you guys didn't notice that Danny and I switched off several times during the night. I guess as long as you think it's "DT" it sounds good.
It's very strange to me what a weird stigma there is attached to being a local DJ in this town. But it is a reality I have had to face over the past year as a resident at Space. FOR EXAMPLE: I played at Avalon in Boston this past Friday. When I played my last record people stayed and demanded an encore, here you guys can't wait for me to get off. There people came for autographs on their recently purchased "CLUB SPACE - HOUSE SESSIONS CDs", here I get no respect, no love; and that is true for dates I do the world over.
But then again I always need to remind myself that I don't play for the handful of people on this board that come to Space only when there is a big guest, I play for the couple thousand people that pack my dancefloor every week and support me as I go for my weekly 10 hour sets.
BTW: DANNY WAS AWESOME!!!
sorry forth long post, but a little venting was in order:)
your friendly neighborhood DJ,
Oscar G.
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Originally posted by malandrisimo
Yeah and now , every freakin DJ set that I download or every DJ that I go see plays that stupid song!!!!!!!!!!
I liked it the first 10 times I heard it, but comeon..................
what's next? Power 96????
PS:That's like OscarG playing Revolution 4 times last saturday.....what's up with that?
why do the DJ's burn up songs like that?
You have to listen a little more closely Mr. Malandrismo.
In reality what I play is a sample of a small piece of the vocal from "Revoluton". I use a delay effect on it and layer it over several different songs over the course of my 10 hour set. As a matter of fact I have'nt played the actual Revolution record in a few months.(not that I have anything against playing older stuff)
Did you know that I was the first DJ to play the "Revolution" in Miami? Being that I am Twisted Record's top selling artist of all time, and Tom Stephan(Superchumbo) is a personal friend of mine , I was lucky enough to get an acetate of the song months before it was released. Maybe I should'nt play stuff so far in advance because then people become spoiled and don't want to hear it anymore by the time it comes out.
IT AIN'T EASY BEING CHEESY!!!
OSCAR G.
(WOW! that was a very (out of character) cocky post for me)
BTW: I still love "Rapture" it's a future classic!!!!
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Originally posted by pod
I remember when Oscar first took to the 1200s at Space. Edgar said "Hey Dan, come and take a photo of me and our new resident, Oscar G!"
I was like "Murk Oscar G? No way!"
It's a shame he had to wait so long to get hometown recognition....like another poster said, when he spins elsewhere, it's a sold out event, but until recently, Miami's reaction was "Oscar who?" or at best "Oh Danny's friend!"
I've got a few of his compilations, and they're all quite well done...I'd love to get a DAT of a live set though
. Hey, do you still have that photo? I'll trade you for that dat you want:)
Thanks for the props! Somehow it means alot more to me coming from my hometown than the rest of the world.
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Originally posted by Nolimit
when are u coming back to play at vinyl?
first time i heard of murk was way back in WMC 93 and it was a thursday night party at the now defunct luke's on 5th street. forgot the name, its been so long.
8 years later you're finally getting the respect u deserve. keep up the great work!
Damn! WMC 93? Club God indeed!
Hey thanks NoLimit, I will probably be back at Vinyl in January (and maybe November) hope to see you there.
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Originally posted by aztec-mystic
Oscar if you're out their, what the hell did you do with all that $$$ when you couldn't have been more than 21????
Cya Saturday G Man.
LOL:laugh:
REAL ESTATE!!!!!
THANKS FOR ALL THE KIND WORDS GUYS:)
I really appreciate it, and I'm glad to see some people are starting to get what I'm doing. With the support of true music-lovers like you guys we can really create something special.(I HOPE!)
SEE YOU ON SATURDAY!!!
BTW: I will be playing on the patio for afterhours on Fridays, come say hello, I would love to meet some of you CP members. It's alot easier for me to talk out there as it is a bit more laid back.
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Hey guys this is my first time writing. I have been the resident at Space on Saturday nights for a little over a year now. I check out this board once in a while to see what people are saying and because my friend Edgar turned me on to it. I think we all need to chill out a bit. If any of you know Edgar like I do you know that he cares very much about his fans. Beleive me Edgar is one of the most humble and decent people I know. He also takes the time to communicate with you guys on this board regularly so you know he values your opinions. (I wish I would have started posting a long time ago but you guys will have to forgive me I am a very shy person) I just think that we get frustrated when we put our hearts into trying to give you guys the best experience possible and all we get is negativity in return.
I am the first on to acknowledge that we have problems at Space. But I also must tell you that we are constantly addressing those problems and listening to customer's suggestions. I personally brought up the security issue at a staff meeting after reading several complaints on this board. Thankfully the ownership listened and has now gotten rid of the private company who was handling security and has gone with all in house security. This has been a huge improvement in my opinion.
As far as the door staff, I myself have had problems with it. But then again I have pretty much had problems with door staffs at most major venues in town. I know it sucks to put up with their pompass attitudes, but again this is an issue that is being addressed. Just yesterday I was in a staff meeting where this was the main issue being discussed and I guarantee you that it is being addressed as there were several complaints about guestlist, etc.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that :yes we have problems, but the fact is that we are trying our best to address these problems. We also try our best to continue to bring the best talent and have the best sound and lighting. They are currently closing the club for a week to do a major overhaul. I even hear there may be some walls coming down (but you didn't hear it from me:))
Just remember when you are ripping Space that there are some of us that put alot of work into trying to give you guys a good time, and I'll be honest, it hurts to read some of the stuff on here.
"FUCK SPACE"? isn't that a little harsh? I know we are all entitled to our opinions, and that is the basis for this forum, but I know we can keep it civilized. After all it's the music that really matters , everything else is just bullshit!
working hard for YOU!
OSCAR G.
---MURK---
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Don't be upset. BTW, if you refer to the first post you'll see that I thought you were "TURNING IT OUT" earlier on in the evening. We were ALL movin' and grovin' to the sounds. The tribal thing just got excessive later on, in my opinion. It could have been you or Danny T. It wouldn't have made a difference to me.
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thank you thank you ...I'll be here all week.....