never. but thats only my opinion. Sorry i had to trick people into reading this thread but i know its the only way to get a response I just made a new demo and i want your guys/girls opinion. someone has got to tell me how to upload it so you all can listen. i gave it to kevin mchugh{DTs} manager, and mike bindra of twilo, and danny and mike got back to me with great reviews of it. if anyone would like a copy, ill be more than happy to send it to you. also i will be playing at phaze 1, a new lounge opening in the east village, and ill be at psuedo the 31st and id like to meet you guys. sorry for the novel Later :D