thank you:D also Apoth - thanks for backin my point up from the earlier post IAN - i dont want to sound crass but one way to notice that your going about this the wrong way is simple 1) read this thread and ONLY read the posts oyu have made here 2) how many times in the past 3 weeks did you honestly need to post this link? http://bbs.clubplanet.com/music/sho...&cat=503&page=1