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§ 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources
Release date: 2005-03-17
(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had access to classified information that identifies covert agent Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent’s intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
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Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of covert agents as result of having access to classified information Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified information, learns the identify of a covert agent and intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent’s intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.© Disclosure of information by persons in course of pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents Whoever, in the course of a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States, discloses any information that identifies an individual as a covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such individual and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such individual’s classified intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(d) Imposition of consecutive sentences A term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be consecutive to any other sentence of imprisonment.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000421----000-.html
§ 422. Defenses and exceptions
Release date: 2005-03-17
(a) Disclosure by United States of identity of covert agent It is a defense to a prosecution under section 421 of this title that before the commission of the offense with which the defendant is charged, the United States had publicly acknowledged or revealed the intelligence relationship to the United States of the individual the disclosure of whose intelligence relationship to the United States is the basis for the prosecution.
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Conspiracy, misprision of felony, aiding and abetting, etc. (1) Subject to paragraph (2), no person other than a person committing an offense under section 421 of this title shall be subject to prosecution under such section by virtue of section 2 or 4 of title 18 or shall be subject to prosecution for conspiracy to commit an offense under such section. (2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply (A) in the case of a person who acted in the course of a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States, or
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in the case of a person who has authorized access to classified information. © Disclosure to select Congressional committees on intelligence It shall not be an offense under section 421 of this title to transmit information described in such section directly to either congressional intelligence committee.
(d) Disclosure by agent of own identity It shall not be an offense under section 421 of this title for an individual to disclose information that solely identifies himself as a covert agent.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000422----000-.html
§ 423. Report
Release date: 2005-03-17
(a) Annual report by President to Congress on measures to protect identities of covert agents The President, after receiving information from the Director of Central Intelligence, shall submit to the congressional intelligence committees an annual report on measures to protect the identities of covert agents, and on any other matter relevant to the protection of the identities of covert agents. The date for the submittal of the report shall be the date provided in section 415b of this title.
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Exemption from disclosure The report described in subsection (a) of this section shall be exempt from any requirement for publication or disclosure. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000423----000-.html
Rove broke the law and Bush is covering for him. Can you say treason Igloo? Treason is punishable by death in the USA.
Igloo, it's time you shut the fuck up and stop bashing America with your propagandish anti-american lies.
Since you defend Bush and Rove, you support outing CIA agents. Only Osama would support that. Thanks for admitting you support terrorists. Thanks for admitting you're a traitor.
After reading the contents of this thread and your insults. It is my judgement that once again, you got owned.
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Bush admin may be responsible for botching effort to thwart London bombing
by John in DC - 7/14/2005 08:09:00 PM
ABC News just reported that the British authorities say they have evidence that the London attacks last week were an operation planned by Al Qaeda for the last two years. This was an operation the Brits thought they caught and stopped in time, but they were wrong. The piece of the puzzle ABC missed is that this is an operation the Bush administration helped botch last year.
I.e., last year Bush botched the effort to thwart the London subway attacks.
1. The London bombers, per ABC, are connected to an Al Qaeda plot planned two years ago in Lahore, Pakistan.
2. Pakistani authorities recovered the laptop of a captured Al Qaeda leader, Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan, on July 13, 2004. On that laptop, they found plans for a coordinated series of attacks on the London subway. According to an expert interviewed by ABC, "there is absolutely no doubt that Khan was part of a worldwide Al Qaeda operation, not just in the United States but also in Great Britain and throughout the west."
Also important, but not reported by ABC this evening, after his arrest Khan started working for our side - sending emails to his other Al Qaeda buddies, working as our mole.
3. ABC reports that names in Khan's computer matched a suspected cell of Britain's of Pakistani decent, many of who lived near the town of Luton, England. According to ABC, authorities thought they had stopped the subway plot with the arrest of more than a dozen people last year associated with Khan. Obviously, they hadn't.
4. Those arrests were the arrests that the Bush administration botched by announcing a heightened security alert the week of the Democratic Convention. The alert was raised because of information found on Khan's computer (this is in the public record already, see below). In its effort to either prove that the alert was serious, or to try and scare people during the Dem Convention, the administration gave the press too much information about WHY they raised the alert. This put the media on the trail of Khan - they found him, and they published his name.
Because the US let the cat out of the bag, the media got a hold of Khan's name and published the fact that he had been captured - his Al Qaeda contacts thus found out their "buddy" was actually a mole, and they fled. Our sole source inside Al Qaeda was destroyed. As a result, the Brits had to have a high speed chase to catch some of Khan's Al Qaeda associates as they fled, and, according to press reports, the Brits and Pakistanis both fear that some slipped away.
Again, these were guys involved with the plot to blow up the London subway last week. Some may have escaped because of Bush administration negligence involving a leak.
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Here is some more information:
The NYT reported on August 17, 2004 that Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge announced on August 1, 2004 that we had information about an "unusually specific" threat against "the New York Stock Exchange and Citigroup in Manhattan, Prudential's headquarters in Newark and the headquarters buildings of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank in Washington."
We now know that this threat info came from Mr. Khan's computer that we got our hands on only weeks before. As a result of the heightened security alert, the media dug into the story to find out what the heightened alert was based on, and they got a hold of Mr. Khan's name and made it public.
The Americans say it was Pakistani officials who leaked Khan's name. Pakistan says it was the Americans. But as Juan Cole notes:
had Ridge not made his announcement, the press would have had no occasion to go searching for the source of his information. The Bush administration decision to go public put a powerful spotlight on the Pakistani arrests of June and July.... The Bush administration at the very least bears indirect responsibility for the outing of Khan. Without the Ridge announcement, reporters would have had no incentive to seek out the name of the source of the information.
Now, why did it matter if Khan's name went public?
That was important because Khan was remaining in touch with his Al Qaeda contacts AFTER his arrest - he was our mole - and the authorities were thus tracking INSIDE Al Qaeda. Once the American official made the info about Khan's arrest public, our mole inside the cell was blown, and the British police, caught off guard, had to make a high speed chase, literally, to catch Khan's contacts before they fled. THAT'S the raid that ABC is talking about. And it's that raid that - guess what? - didn't catch everybody who was plotting to blow up London last week. That's the raid that got botched.
And I quote from the Associated Press, August 10, 2004:
The disclosure to reporters of the arrest of an al-Qaida computer expert jeopardized Pakistani efforts to capture more members of Osama bin Laden's terrorist network, government and security officials said Tuesday.
Two senior Pakistani officials said initial reports in "Western media" last week of the capture of Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan had enabled other al-Qaida suspects to get away, but declined to say whether U.S. officials were to blame for the leak.
"Let me say that this intelligence leak jeopardized our plan and some al-Qaida suspects ran away," one of the officials said on condition of anonymity....
But the Pakistani officials said that after Khan's arrest, other al-Qaida suspects had abruptly changed their hide-outs and moved to unknown places.
The first official described the initial publication of the news of Khan's arrest as "very disturbing."
"We have checked. No Pakistani official made this intelligence leak," he said.
Without naming any country, he said it was the responsibility of "coalition partners" to examine how a foreign journalist was able to have an access to the "classified information" about Khan's arrest. (NOTE: In this story, it quotes Condi Rice saying the Americans leaked the name - she later retracted that assertion.)
And this from CNN.com, August 9, 2004:
The effort by U.S. officials to justify raising the terror alert level last week may have shut down an important source of information that has already led to a series of al Qaeda arrests, Pakistani intelligence sources have said.
Until U.S. officials leaked the arrest of Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan to reporters, Pakistan had been using him in a sting operation to track down al Qaeda operatives around the world, the sources said.
In background briefings with journalists last week, unnamed U.S. government officials said it was the capture of Khan that provided the information that led Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge to announce a higher terror alert level....
Law enforcement sources said some of the intelligence gleaned from the arrests of Khan and others gave phone numbers and e-mail addresses that the FBI and other agencies were using to try to track down any al Qaeda operatives in the United States.
Then on Friday, after Khan's name was revealed, government sources told CNN that counterterrorism officials had seen a drop in intercepted communications among suspected terrorists....
One senator told CNN that U.S. officials should have kept Khan's role quiet.
"You always want to know the evidence," said Sen. George Allen.
"In this situation, in my view, they should have kept their mouth shut and just said, 'We have information, trust us.' "....
"The Pakistani interior minister, Faisal Hayat, as well as the British home secretary, David Blunkett, have expressed displeasure in fairly severe terms that Khan's name was released, because they were trying to track down other contacts of his," Schumer told CNN.
And this from the NY Daily News, August 7, 2004:
A captured Al Qaeda computer whiz was E-mailing his comrades as part of a sting operation to nab other top terrorists when U.S. officials blew his cover, sources said yesterday.
Within hours of Muhammad Naeem Noor Khan's name being publicized Monday, British police launched lightning raids that netted a dozen suspected Al Qaeda terrorists, including one who was nabbed after a high-speed car chase....
Now British and Pakistani intelligence officials are furious with the Americans for unmasking their super spy - apparently to justify the orange alert - and for naming the other captured terrorist suspects.
Pakistani Interior Minister Faisal Saleh Hayyat expressed dismay the trap they had hoped would lead to the capture of other top Al Qaeda leaders, possibly even Osama Bin Laden, was sprung too soon.
"The network is still not finished," Hayyat said. It "remains a potent threat to Pakistan, and to civilized humanity."
"It makes our job harder," a British security source said. British officials denied press reports yesterday that several suspects were able to escape the net....
"His arrest was kept secret and he was made to remain in touch with his contacts," a Pakistani government official told The Times of London. "During his detention, he regularly communicated through E-mail with the Al Qaeda operatives in Britain and other countries. That helped us to identify them."
And this from the Washington Times:
The Times quoted one unidentified "senior (police) commander" as saying Scotland Yard and MI5 had not expected the American announcements and had to move up the arrests, which were "part of a pre-planned, ongoing intelligence-led operation."
And this from Juan Cole who tracked this story last year:
...had Ridge not made his announcement, the press would have had no occasion to go searching for the source of his information. The Bush administration decision to go public put a powerful spotlight on the Pakistani arrests of June and July.... The Bush administration at the very least bears indirect responsibility for the outing of Khan. Without the Ridge announcement, reporters would have had no incentive to seek out the name of the source of the information.... The appearance of Khan's name in the New York Times on August 2 caused the British to have to swoop down on the London al-Qaeda cell to which he was speaking. As it was, 5 of them heard about Khan's arrest and immediately fled. The British got 13, but it was early in their investigation and they had to let 5 go or charge them with minor offences
And this from IPS-Inter Press Service, August 9, 2004:
"By exposing the only deep mole we've ever had within al-Qaeda, it ruined the chance to capture dozens if not hundreds more," a former Justice Department prosecutor, John Loftus, told Fox News on Saturday. REPOST FROM AMERICANBLOG http://americablog.blogspot.com/
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not posting any of the articles about the polls that were just taken say most americans dont trust bush any more and other polls say most americans believe we are in an unjust lied about war?
Too "liberal" to him.
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British Muslims brace for backlash Print this page..
By Dipankar De Sarkar, Indo-Asian News Service
London, July 13 (IANS) Britain's Muslim community Wednesday prepared for further backlash after authorities revealed that at least three of the four terrorists who carried out last week's bomb blasts here were British-born Pakistanis.
The three men - all from the region of West Yorkshire, about 320 km north of London - have been named as Shehzad Tanweer, 22, his friend Hasib Mir Hussain, 19, and Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30.
All came from respectable families - Tanweer and Hussain from Leeds and Khan, a married man, from nearby Dewsbury - and the Muslim community in the region was as deeply shocked as others around them.
Fear and unease among Britain's Muslims estimated 1.6 million Muslims intensified Wednesday after one man was killed in the backlash against the community following the July 7 blasts.
The Guardian newspaper reported that the killing of Kamal Raza Butt, a 48-year-old Pakistani man who was on a visit to Britain to see friends and family in Nottingham, about 200 km north of London, was among 300 hate crime incidents reported in the last week.
The identity of the three terrorists was established after police Tuesday raided several homes in Leeds, including an apparent bomb-factory, where several controlled explosions were carried out. Leeds is home to a large number of Muslims - mostly of Pakistani origin, but also from Mirpur in Pakistani Kashmir and Bangladesh.
The fourth man involved in the blasts, which killed 52 people, is yet to be identified.
So far, Police have pieced together the following account of the events on July 7: the four men drove down south to Luton, 48 km north of London, carrying military-style rucksacks with 10lbs explosives in them. From Luton, they took the 7.40 a.m. train to King's Cross station in central London.
Police found the car in which they drove down at Luton station Tuesday. It was found to contain bombs, and police carried out five controlled explosions in it.
The four men were captured on CCTV cameras at King's Cross, a busy intersection that serves six underground train lines and several over-ground lines.
Tanweer, a keen cricketer and sports science student, carried his bomb to the train that was blasted at Aldgate in east London - ironically, home to a large population of Bangladeshi Muslims.
Khan boarded the train that blew up at Edgware Road in north London, a neighbourhood inhabited by many Arab Muslims.
Hussain was carrying the bomb that blew up a double-decker bus at Tavistock Square, very near King's Cross - it is as yet unclear whether Hussain triggered the bomb or whether he was travelling to another underground station when it accidentally went off.
The last bomber was on the train that was targeted at Russell Square station in central London.
All four bombers carried identification documents, which were found near their seats and led police to their homes - a fact that is being seen by police as a deliberate and final act of defiance.
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BAGHDAD -- After more than two years of fucking the shit out of Iraq, the United States military is finally ready to pull out, and come all over the broken and exhausted nation.
"When we first saw Iraq, she was all oiled up, just laying there helpless and vulnerable. I mean, she was practically begging to be fucked", said President George W. Bush as he gazed longingly at a map of Iran, adding, "Damn, she's kinda hot. Sorta like twins or something."
When the United States first inserted itself into Iraq, they stated the clear objective of finding Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction, which might have made the sexual act beneficial for both parties. But no matter how hard the US tried, or how many positions they did it in, they simply could not locate the Weapons of Mass Destruction and bring Iraq to a climax.
"This is without a doubt the worst sex we've ever had," said one Iraqi, "even worse than when Saddam fucked us. At least he'd apologize afterwards, buy some flowers and tell us he loved us."
A few months into the sex, people began speculating that the United States was too heavily intoxicated on hubris and greed to be able to perform adequately.
"Clearly they have no idea what they're doing," said Saddam Hussein.
Reports another Iraqi civilian: "They were pretty rough from the beginning, biting and pinching even our most innocent spots. But things got really weird when the United States started tying us up. They just wanted to do all this sick, freaky shit. I mean, you saw Abu Ghirab. We're used to having it a little rough, but we're not freaking masochists, for Allah's sake!"
Despite insistent claims of affection for Iraq, the United States started looking more and more like a rapist to many of the people observing the filmed broadcasts of the copulation.
"They can say whatever they want about human rights," said a French official, "but we can all see that the Americans are just using Iraq. They could have at least gotten permission to fuck her, like they did with Bosnia."
U.S. Officials report that the reason for finally wrapping up this marathon sex act is that "we're running low on Viagra".
"We've got military recruiters all over the place, asking parents to send us more of their kids," said Donald Rumsfeld, "I guess no one wants to party anymore."
Now that the U.S. is finally ready to blow their load all over Iraq, certain American citizens have expressed concern about the military's recovery time.
"I just hope they can get it up again soon," said one Senator, "because it looks like all this sex in Iraq has sure gotten Al-Qaeda horny."
Hahahahahahahaha That was great!
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Banana Republicans
How the right wing is turning America into a one party state
By Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber
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Fucking absurd.....classic example of useful idiots
BBC edits out the word terrorist
By Tom Leonard
(Filed: 12/07/2005)
The BBC has re-edited some of its coverage of the London Underground and bus bombings to avoid labelling the perpetrators as "terrorists", it was disclosed yesterday.
Early reporting of the attacks on the BBC's website spoke of terrorists but the same coverage was changed to describe the attackers simply as "bombers".
The BBC's guidelines state that its credibility is undermined by the "careless use of words which carry emotional or value judgments".
Consequently, "the word 'terrorist' itself can be a barrier rather than an aid to understanding" and its use should be "avoided", the guidelines say.
Rod Liddle, a former editor of the Today programme, has accused the BBC of "institutionalised political correctness" in its coverage of British Muslims.
A BBC spokesman said last night: "The word terrorist is not banned from the BBC."
Igloo, even though you tend to insult those who oppose your views for once I have to agree with you on this issue at hand. For a reliable source such as the BBC, I find it appalling that they have decided to edit out the word terrorist in place of bombers as the ones responsible for the attacks on the London subways. The asshats responsible for the attacks fall nothing short of terrorist in my opinion. But the bbc are a privately owned network and can do anything they want (though I personally don't like the idea of them substituting terrorist with bombers). My prayers go out to the families and friends who lost loved ones in this latest tragedy and I hope the ones who caused the explosions are captured and put away for good.
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umm....ok....
and I like cheetos... the point?
The point? I like doritos and hate froot loops.
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Friday, July 8th, 2005
THE WAR ON TERROR: PROGRESS?
Four years ago this September, the world changed. George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States, rose from the rubble of tragedy to boldly lead a war on all those who hated freedom. We were going to smoke them out of their caves.
We invaded Afghanistan, toppled their brutal dictators and set up a provisional government that became an elected government that will celebrate its democracy this fall at the polls.
The war there, however, is not over and was never won. The Taliban launched a spring offensive, heroin sales are booming, non-aligned war lords rule much of the outlying country, and the citizens stuck in between are feeling uneasy.
The #1 Evildoer hasn't been found--nevermind the leader of the Taliban who also vanished. Now Pakistan says Osama might be in Afghanistan. Afghanistan says he might be in Pakistan but wherever he is, he's not in Afghanistan.
Finding this guy is enough to make anyone's head spin and so we gave up and went to Iraq.
In the name of weapons of mass destruction and terrorism we toppled a brutal dictator and fulfilled the President's promise to use American power for nation-building.
More than two years into this invasion, the Iraqi people have voted for a leader, the government is drafting a plan to draft a constitution, the people often have no power, and the anti-invasion insurgency is always about to end.
Here is a look at Iraq by the numbers:
Number of U.S. troops in Iraq -- 135,000;
Number of coalition troops in Iraq -- 23,250;
Number of Iraqi security forces -- 168,581;
Number of insurgents & militants -- 16,000.
That's 326,831 coalition soldiers fighting 16,000 insurgents at the cost of $180,000,000,000.00.
The President assures us that entire hundreds of foreign fighters have been captured or killed:
Our military reports that we have killed or captured hundreds of foreign fighters in Iraq who have come from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Sudan, Yemen, Libya and othersAnd like Afghanistan, the innocent (and newly-freed) citizens stuck in between. At leastjust feel dead (and that's).In the latest justification in the ever-shifting plates of war, our President says we are taking the fight to the terrorists so that theylike they did on 9/11.Unfortunately, the real leaders of the terrorists are still safe and sound, somewhere outside Iraq--where they never were to begin with--:The message by Ayman al-Zawahri — his first video since February — appeared to be an attempt by Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network to co-opt the rising wave of reform movements in the Middle East.....On at least seven occasions in the past six years, a statement by al-Zawahri has been followed by a significant al-Qaida attack within three weeks, an NBC News analysis of the statements show. In four cases, the attacks came within a week.Unfortunately, the terrorists already
brought the fight home.Unfortunately, George W. Bush is losing the war on terrorism.
THE FUTURES THIS MORNING, or MEANING WHAT YOU SAY
London bombings leave more than fifty dead as police dig in with implacable resolve.
Early reports suggested that British police had warned the Israeli embassy of possible terror attacks just prior to the blasts. But apparently no such thing happened.
The Guardian reports that British intelligence officials were ready for an attack but that without specific chatter, they had no idea an attack would coincide with the G8 meetings and had recently lowered the terror warning level. And, given the heretofore unknown-unknown nature of the only group to have claimed responsibility, it seems British intelligence might be focusing on homegrown extremists:
There have been two distinct groups of people involved in planning the attacks in the UK: British-born young men, often educated and middle class, who may have volunteered for training in Afghanistan and who are prepared to risk jail or death to carry out an attack; and foreign citizens, including a number from north Africa, who see Britain as the next most important target after the US and use false identities to avoid being traced, blending in with existing immigrant communities. Police and anti-terrorist sources believe that there are around 30 or 40 of such people who have both the capability and the will to carry out attacks like those of yesterday. Some 200 have returned from training camps in Afghanistan, Chechnya, or Bosnia, and perhaps 1,000 sympathise with the notion of a "global jihad". The British-born operatives are seen as less effective and skilled and more easily identifiable.Figuring out who did this poses daunting possibilities. If it is the work of al Qaeda sympathizers rather than a specific al Qaeda branch, what drives people to join the fight?
US and European intelligence services are monitoring a more pronounced level of radicalization among young Muslim men in Europe, they said, particularly in the wake of the Iraq war, which has drawn in hundreds of European Muslim fighters, according to US military estimates.....'The central question is whether it is an Al Qaeda-directed attack or an Al Qaeda-inspired attack," said Roger Cressey, a former official in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. ''In many respects it will be easier if it is an Al Qaeda-directed attack with a familiar command structure. If it is an inspired attack with no operational control over it, it is much more difficult to deal with. My gut tells me it was inspired."Whether it's 40 inspired people or 4,000, the Iraq war is driving people--in particular: young people, our future--to take up arms and to kill the innocent. Whether they follow an ideology of hate or not, it is clear that the Iraq war has made everyone--Americans, Britons, Iraqis, Spaniards, Danes, etc.-- less safe.
Of course, if you listen to someone like John Gibson at FOX News, this isn't the tale at all. His word on the London attacks is that: a) it proves that al Qaeda is weak;
the war on terror is working; c) the Patriot Act should be made stronger.Heck, maybe he's right. Maybe this War on Terror is almost over.
And if John Gibson is right, then Brian Kilmeade at FOX News is probably also right, and the London attacks are good for America:
I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.And if Brian Kilmeade is probably right, then Brit Hume at FOX News is definitely right, and your immediate reaction to terror should be: BUY!
"My first thought when I heard - just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, 'Hmmm, time to buy.'"- Fox News's Brit Hume, 7/7/05And what could be more right than seeing the futures, shrugging off the death, and making some good green dollars?
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A Brooklyn teen whose family had tried to shelter him from city violence was stabbed to death Saturday evening by two boys who were trying to steal his iPod portable music player.
The attack occurred Saturday at approximately 5:30 p.m. near the corner of East 40th Street and Avenue D in Flatbush. Police say 15-year-old Christopher Rose was walking with three friends on his way to the Port Authority Terminal when a group of young men tried to take his iPod.
When he resisted, Rose was stabbed twice in the chest.
Police have arrested 16-year-old Darran Samuel and 17-year-old Darryl Stephen, both of Brooklyn, on murder, robbery and weapons charges.
Christopher's father says he had moved Christopher to Pennsylvania during the school year to avoid this kind of violence. Christopher was on his way back to Pennsylvania to visit friends when he was killed.
"I called him and I said, 'Christopher, it's a holiday weekend, so when you go to the Port Authority, don't talk to strangers, anybody in uniform is the best person to talk to,' and he said, 'Yes dad,'" said Christopher's father Errol. "Five minutes later I called him back again and emphasized the same thing, and he said, 'Yes dad.' And as soon as left – within half an hour – they killed him."
Neighbors say the boy tried to run from his attackers.
"You heard him running and they were chasing him, and they were like, 'Get him, get him,'" one eyewitness said.
"He came down this block and the kid ran out of breath," said another. "He ran out of breath and the kids caught up with him."
"It's horrible," added a woman who lives in the area. "I have a 17-year-old that lives here – my daughter has an iPod – and I have to really be careful now about her going to school and coming home. It's a shame."
Earlier this year, New York City Police said that crime on the subways was up due in large part to the popularity of iPods and other electronic devices. From January through May, authorities say fifty iPods were reported stolen on the city's subway system.
Police sources told the New York Post that this is the first known murder in the city over the popular iPod player.
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Completely random of a thought...
Did you ever just have the craving to kick someone in the face until it turned red....white (assuming they are caucasian), and blue?
Just a thought...
When I kick someone in the face, it's black and blue.
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Mind boggling stupidity
Is that all you got?
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The other night I was sitting home watching a Tivo of Stump the Schwab on ESPN and just about nodding off when suddenly someone began pounding on my front door like I owed them money. It would be hard to overstate my surprise when I opened the door and Ann Coulter pushed past me, smelling of alcohol and Nicorette gum. She had already taken off her sweater and shoes before I remembered to close the door.
‘Nice to be back here at the Fortress of Decrepitude. Bet not many ladies come here twice.' She shook her head. 'Have I missed you,’ she sighed, glancing toward me.
‘I’m..flattered..’
‘I’m not talking to you,’ she spat, ‘I’m talking to your cock. Bet you never thought you’d see me again.’
‘Not without being able to change the channel, no..’
‘Well get out of that ridiculously too young for you Abercrombie & Fitch t-shirt, say goodbye to 1998 and lose the cargo pants, and get ready to stuff the only thing interesting about you into the sloppy end of my digestive tract.’
‘Which end is that?’
She didn’t appreciate my making this admittedly small joke. She stepped up to me with rising anger, and I had the small adrenaline rush that precedes a fistfight. But instead of hitting me, she said through clenched teeth:
‘I came here to chew gum and have Liberal cock slammed into me.’ She spit her gum onto my floor. ‘And I’m all out of gum. We clear?’
I flinched.
‘Yes.’ I reproached myself for looking away, unable to meet her menacing gaze. She resumed taking off her clothes.
‘Don’t you want to, I don’t know, talk politics?’
‘You think you’ve got me all figured out in that box of shit you keep balanced on your neck, don’t you?’
‘Well I think I have an idea what flips your bingo switch, yeah, so if you want to discuss..’
‘No need. I listened to Clinton’s ’92 acceptance speech in the car. I’m as horny as the hat rack at a Viking bar.’ She stood naked and impatient before me. ‘What’s the matter?’
‘I’m a little freaked out by your hip bones’
‘I still weigh what I did Freshman year at Cornell,’ she said proudly.
‘Have you eaten since?’
‘What do you mean?’
‘I mean hit a buffet. Get some plates dirty. Seriously.’
She fixed me with a hot stare. ‘It’s not how the meat bounces on the girl; it’s how the girl bounces on the meat.’
‘Could we, like, kiss or something?’
‘Aw,’ she said tartly, ‘isn’t that sweet. You want to kiss me on the mouth.’
‘Yeah, I would.’
‘Well I’m a little picky about who I let kiss me, Libby. Now, how’s about sticking your fuckmeat up my ass?’ I felt beaten.
‘OK, OK..’
‘Now, don’t be like that. Listen, do you know what it means when someone says put it in slowly and gently?’
‘Yes.’
‘Good. Then do it the exact opposite of that,’ she said, smearing lotion on my uterus poker. She noticed what must’ve been my glum look, rolled her eyes and sighed. ‘OK, what do you think of the war on activist judges legislating from the bench, Libby?’
I perked up.
‘I think lackey judges legislate from the bench too, the Administration just prefers their decisions.’
‘Pat Robertson thinks activist judges pose a greater threat to America than terrorists,’ she said smugly.
‘I read that. Well, he’s a man who believes Adam & Eve had three sons and populated the Earth, he must be right.’
‘Anti-Religious rhetoric. That’s hot.’
‘I’m not anti-religion. I come from religious people that I love very much.’
'You just think you’re smarter.'
‘I just think if anyone wants to live in a democratic fundamentalist theocracy, they should move to Iraq. They’ll have one soon enough.’
‘Do you like Football?’ she asked eagerly.
‘Uh, I guess..’
‘Good,’ she said, climbing atop my pool table and waving her ass in the air like a rapper without a care, ‘then tell your Brown Bay Packer it’s kickoff time.’
Knocks rattled my front door. I recognized my friends' voices.
‘Who is that?’ she hissed.
I listened at the door.
‘It’s Tim and David and someone else.’
‘Jesus, it’s always a social program with you people, isn’t it?’
‘I’m sorry. I wasn’t expecting them. Or you.’
‘Well answer it,’ she said, sitting on the pool table. I wanted her to not get her slime on the felt, but I thought better of asking. I opened the door to see Tim, David and John Cusack. He was really good looking in person.
‘Hey guys,’ I said anxiously.
‘Let us in,’ said Tim, ‘Redd Kross is going to be on Letterman in a couple minutes.’
‘Hold on a sec,’ I said, closing the door. I turned to report. ‘It’s Tim, David and John Cusack. They want to come in and watch Redd Kross on Letterman.’
‘Never mind. How did they vote?’
‘Uh, Tim and David voted for Kerry, if they voted. I think John Cusack was active in the Nader campaign, wasn’t he?’
Her eyes narrowed slyly. ‘Let them in.’
I opened the door again.
‘Hey, you guys want to help me fuck Ann Coulter?’
Then we were all up on the pool table surrounding Ann Coulter. David was stationed by her head, Tim and John Cusack were at her either hand, and I was positioned familiarly between the backs of her legs as she crouched like a supplicant before me. Taking aim as I prepared to bust into her shit-shack with my splattering ram, looking at her slavering, pulsing crap valve, which for an instant seemed to wink at me like an old friend, I realized that from this angle, we’re all the same. Sure, some of us think the best way to confront terrorism is by falsifying grounds for war and creating the greatest recruitment drive for young men willing to die in the name of Islam since the Crusades, and some of us do not. Some of us advocate teaching ‘Intelligent Design’ in the classroom alongside Evolution and hope someday Astronomy classes will give the Bible teaching that the Earth is the center of the Universe equal time with the scurrilous notion that we actually orbit the Sun, and some of us do not. Some of us believe the poor and helpless in a civilized society are entitled to nothing more--and can benefit from nothing more--than contempt, and some of us do not. Some of us believe that a 13 year-old girl should be required to deliver the child of incestuous rape, and some of us do not. Some of us believe that if childbirth threatens her life, any doctor who ends her pregnancy is a murderer, and this fact should rightfully be brought to the attention of his children and their fourth grade classmates, and some of us do not. But when you get right down to it, and contemplate our assholes, we’re really all the same.
‘One thing before we get started,’ Ann Coulter said, pulling her hair back in a pony tail, ‘I don’t want to catch any of you life-partners holding hands while you’re stabbing me, OK?’
We all nodded in consent, and began tunneling.
For those of you who have never tried 5-person sex, it’s a little trickier than you might think. With the guest of honor buffeted at all sides, until everyone works in a kind of sync, it’s a little like trying to fuck a mechanical bull. I found myself wrenched out mid-stroke and made the mistake of satisfying my curiosity, glancing down at her ham-trap. It looked more like an exit wound than any baby-wallet I’d ever seen before. Was this a surgeon’s handiwork?
In an instant she kicked her heels up powerfully against my backside, and driving me forward, caught me again in her yawning fudge mine. I felt slightly seasick, but on either side of her David and I had achieved the sort of rhythm that allows two-man saw teams to do their work efficiently.
My head was spinning. I noticed all of us around Ann had kept our socks on, and wondered what that was about. I felt really weird doing this in front of my friends. Everyone kept their eyes to themselves, like men at the open urinal troughs in the Dodger Stadium bathrooms. I was thinking about how cool it was to have John Cusack over, and how much I liked Grosse Pointe Blank. Judging by the way he casually smoked a cigarette, I guessed he had sex this way all the time.
Ann Coulter was swaying in a gentle clockwise motion, accommodating all of the thrusts around her in a smooth sequence. She stopped suddenly and snapped at me over her shoulder.
‘Hey back there—fuck it like you dig chicks, wouldya sport?’
The guys snickered.
‘We can trade places if you’re not up to it,’ John Cusack sort of drawled disdainfully at me. Now I felt really uncomfortable.
‘He can do it,’ she half-mocked, half-defended me. ‘Now, I want you to turn my ass-snatch into a one-man mosh pit. Comprende?’
She went back to bouncing David’s scrotum off of her chin. With my renewed effort, the gentle circuit her body was making became quickened and jerky. She didn’t seem to mind, moaning in muffled pleasure like a mental deficient with too much cake in his mouth. She began to hum something familiar that caught our attention, especially David’s, since she was humming it on what he referred to as his "pink floyd." Tim began to sing along:
‘If it takes just a little while..open your heart, and look at the day,’ the rest of us joined in slowly, ‘you’ll see things in a different way. Don’t, Stop, thinking about tomorrow..’
She convulsed spasmodically in orgasm as our rendition grew louder. Over our chorus, Ann Coulter could be heard making horrible noises, like a pterodactyl being disemboweled.
‘It’ll soon be here. It’ll be better than before; yesterday’s gone, yesterday’s gone..’
With her whole body shuddering in paroxysms of ecstasy, the pace got really hectic. As she caromed wildly like a pinball caught between four double-bonus bumpers, I sensed things were about to get soupy.
‘Uhhhhhggg..yeah!’ David gasped triumphantly.
Along with him, Tim and John Cusack were nearing their own scrotum-lightening, Coulter-whitening experience. The terrific tempo at which she expertly beat them both made me think she could probably play the shit out of some bongos.
That’s when things began to go horribly wrong.
Ann Coulter’s slender frame, which had been so easily jostled between our various cum-muskets, suddenly became as fixed and immobile as Joe McCarthy’s tombstone. This was just registering in my mind when I heard David let out a high-pitched shriek. I looked up to see the terror on his face as suddenly he was being swung around, flailing helplessly like a stuffed animal in the mouth of a pit bull. Ann Coulter began to swell grotesquely, and she was suddenly a massive, armored confluence of rigid, steely muscle before me. She became covered with gruesome scales and sharp, bony protuberances. The air filled with a thunderous, guttural laugh, like a Shelby Cobra being gunned over and over. Her arms bulged powerfully and began to clench the penis in either hand with ungodly force. I watched in horror as Tim and John Cusack’s cocks burst in her hands, now taloned claws, like water balloons. They both, mercifully, passed out from either shock or pain. The beast that Ann Coulter had become clutched what remained of their genitals in either bloody hand like burst bladders. David was now hanging lifelessly from her maw, as though his skeletal structure had been sucked right out.
I tried to disengage but her heels, now burred hooves, again held me helplessly in place. Unthinkingly I screamed alternately for my mother and for Sweet Jesus as I became aware of something like a hand pulling me deep in the monster Ann Coulter's buttmouth, intent, and I felt sickly sure, capable of dragging me to the darkness within.
I awoke to the ringing of my telephone. I was sitting on my couch. Stump the Schwab was over, and Say Anything, starring John Cusack, was on. I began, with relief, to assemble my mind. I didn’t own a pool table. Tim was in Ireland. I hadn’t spoken to David in longer than I can remember. Redd Kross hadn’t put out an album in years. It was just a dream.
I rose to answer the persistent telephone.
‘Hello?’
‘Hello. Is this Bachem Macuno?’
‘Speaking,’ I rubbed my eyes. ‘Look, I don’t have a mortgage to refinance; I don’t know how I got on this list.’
‘This is Ann Coulter.’
‘Is it?" I said, unsettled. "Well, hello again.’
‘What do you mean, "again," you booger-twiddling imbecile?’
‘I mean..we’ve met.’
‘You mean in your little story.’
‘Story? It was an account of our afternoon.’
‘Yes, I’ve read it. Just because you’re piteously insignificant doesn’t mean you’ve escaped my notice.’
‘Well, it’s just that you make it sound like it didn’t happen.’
‘It didn’t.’
‘Uh, you know perfectly well it happened, as do I, owing to the fact that we were both there.’
‘If you think I can’t know something perfectly well and continue to argue the opposite, you’ve not very familiar with my work. Anyway, maybe you just dreamed the whole thing.’
Something in her voice gave me a chill up my spine.
‘Hey, you’re free to regard the account however you wish.’
There was a considered pause.
‘I see you’ve gotten a lot of positive feedback,’ she conceded.
‘People have been probably over-generous, yes. Look, I’m not naïve; I know that has more to do with you than it does with me.’
‘It doesn’t matter what Liberals think. Two things they never remember to do. 1. Shut up. 2. Vote.’
‘That’s probably good news to people who misconstrue a 3% differential to be a mandate.’
‘Still, that praise has got to be pretty heady for a failed TV writer.’
‘I’m not a failed TV writer. I’m a failing TV writer. There’s a difference.’
‘They both make the same amount of money.’
‘Did you call for any particular reason?’
‘Did I wake you?’ she intoned knowingly.
‘Seriously. What do you want?’
‘I wondered if you watched the press conference last week.’
‘Yes, I did. Just, you know, to count how many times the leader of the free world said "nucular"’
‘You sneering elitists. It’s a regional thing. It’s just like the British saying ‘aluminium’’
"Actually, the British say ‘aluminium’ because they spell it ‘aluminium’. Is there a dictionary with ‘nucular’ in it that I don’t know about?"
‘Come on, it’s folksy.’
‘It’s not folksy, it’s put on for faux-shitkicker appeal. The guy went to prep schools and Yale, it’s not like he doesn’t know better. It’s his aw-shucks anti-intellectualism signal flare saying "Hey dumb people, vote for me!"’
‘I’ve got to tell you, this is some of the most low-caliber phone sex I’ve ever had.’
‘I didn’t realize that’s what we were doing.’
‘Well clue the fuck in. Do I have to put it in bold type on the cover of Mother Jones?’
‘Alright, alright..well, I did like the President’s energy plan. I think supplying China with energy efficient technology is a good idea.’
‘Yes?’
‘Sure, once we get some. Maybe we can trade them the technology we don’t have for the technology they do have, like the breakthroughs they’re making and patenting in stem cell research.’
‘Ah, you object to the "Culture of Life"?’ she said, intrigued.
‘Seems like yesterday it was the "Culture of Vengeance," bragging about all the mentally retarded people he executed.’
Her breathing quickened. ‘People of faith believe life, and stem cells, are sacred.’
‘It was a lot easier when scientists could just be burned as heretics, huh?’
‘Uhnnnggghh,’ she gurgled on the other end of the line.
‘Are you touching yourself?’
‘I’m tapping my clit like a telegraph operator on biker speed. Continue!’
‘Hey, I totally respect people of faith making that determination for themselves. If they really feel that way, I hope they have the courage of their convictions. I hope they will, on principle, suffer and die from conditions Stem Cell research will be able to address once the breakthroughs are made. I hope they have the courage to resist Stem Cell advances and watch their loved ones suffer and die, and stay true to their principles. Otherwise, they’re just busybodies killing time between complaint letters to the FCC about any instance of language stronger than "dang." Otherwise, they should put their time and energy into baking a nice Mind Your Own Business-cake, with delicious Shut the Fuck Up-frosting.’
‘Ahhhhrrgghh..’ she wheezed, ‘describe something degrading you’re doing to me.’
‘Ok, ok..I’m behind you with my dirty jockstrap pulled tight over your face and mouth like a bridle, and I’m yanking the waistband like reins.’
‘Yes! YES!’
‘I’m riding you over to the toilet..’
‘You can lead my horseface to water, but you can’t make me drink!’
‘Yes, but I can stick your head in the toilet and flush!’
‘Oh God! Oh GOD!!’
‘And I’m scrawling something on your ass with a sharpie.’
‘Uhhh..Ohhh..what are you writing?’
‘I’m writing..HILLARY IN 2008!!!’
She began huffing and grunting like a cow having a seizure. I could hear her strumming her clitoris like Earl Scruggs picking out Foggy Mountain Breakdown on the banjo. The sound of a woman having a tremendous climax is usually arousing to me, but I sat there in a grim mood, like I’d gotten bad news and was trying to grasp it. I waited, resigned, for her to regain her composure. She finally did.
‘Was it good for you?’ she said, catching her breath.
‘Not really.’
‘Good,’ she cackled. ‘You must really hate Conservatives, huh?’
‘Not really. I have close friends who are Conservatives. I’m not so threatened by people who disagree with me that I need to reduce them to cartoons to vilify, or hateful misrepresentations like Der Ewige Jude. There are people I disagree with that I respect quite a lot. Your shtick is calling anyone who disagrees with you to be shot for treason.’
‘Shtick?’
‘Well, you must know better. You’re just an entertainer. It’s a complicated world. If you can ease people’s confusion by presenting a preposterously oversimplified worldview where one side is all good and the other all evil, great for you. People don’t make the New York Times bestseller list writing considered, balanced analysis. People want an uncomplicated reality. There’s a nice living to be made in providing it to them. But I don’t think you really believe much of it, just like I doubt the Verizon guy walks around saying "Can you hear me now?" when he’s off-camera.’
‘I bet you think you’re pretty clever for a guy wearing cargo pants.’
‘I don’t think..how did you know what I’m wearing?’
‘Ha. What else would you be wearing?’
‘Look, you’ve had your fun. I’ve got to go.’
‘Fine. Go.’
‘Goodbye.’
‘Wait, Bachem..’ she called. I returned the receiver to my ear.
‘Yes?’
‘Enjoy the movie. And tell Tim and David I said no hard feelings.’
I dropped the phone and my mouth fell open in a silent, breathless scream. I heard familiar peals of dark laughter booming through the room, as the ground swirled beneath me and fell away from my feet.
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U r a repulsive, dumb piece of shit ..........words are not strong enough to describe how despicable u r.........
Is that all you got??
1. Try using "you" and "are" instead or "U" and "r".
2. Try proper use of puncuation. One period instead of ........... periods is proper grammar when finishing a sentence.
Keeping these in mind, this stands between being a repulsive uneducated Nazi troll and just being a troll and you will become a much improved intelligent insulter.
And speaking of periods, you must be having one.
Fucking sheep.
Thank you for admitting:
1. You are a fascist no different than Hitler and...
2. You advocate torture and murder of innocent civilians like a good anti-American and...
3. That you hate America and you should head to JFK and take the first international flight out of the US and...
4. You are a disgrace to the uniform and...
5. You are a chickenhawk too scared to fight the same war you support. You rather see others die than get your hands dirty in the same shit. You don't support the troops. Are you afraid to get your hands dirty? Is this the reason why you support this nazi shit? Oh, I get it. You only support this war ONLY because you have stocks in Halliburton and the Carlyle group and ONLY to support Bush and...
6. I have already destroyed siceone. You're next!
good god.Yes. God is good. Don't knock it.
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Igloo, your oh so correct, with todays' media coverage and cynicism blah! Good luck. Im surprised the media hasnt argued yet that killing in a war is wrong and horrible of a thing. As if these people forgot the very basic definition of "war".
Obby, Welcome back, I see you as well have come out of hiding.
Very good articles to post... You are correct as well, history does repeat itself.
I have a theory for all the naysayers. Who bitch and whine, saying "bush said this... the US are fools for having NO clue how this was going to go... etc..etc..
and Ill try to be brief given that I must run back to work soon...
Really simple.
The average citzen...aka "Joe Public", sad to say, although certainly true... is a stupid simplton who is very very sensitive.
Now if the administration said from the get go....like they knew, that this middle eastern vendetta would take alot of money and a very long time, and surely will in turn take the lives of many us soldiers...HA. You think that america wouldnt revolt?
Joe Public can not comprehend the granduer scheme of things. Globally shared freedom, morality in regards to cultures systematically abusing themselves (i.e. woman and children in the middle east), shiite and sunni skirmishes of murderous mis-understanding...and so on and so forth.
TOo much information for Joe to swallow. What people must realize is that Bush, and the administration have to dumb it down to.. Terrorism is Bad!, and we must spread Freedom... Because even those two simple facts alone are hard to understand. As far as in the long run, and how its necessary.
Believe it or not folks our country is more or less altruistic and "relatively" morally sound with its policy. But ooh.. the oil, this and that.. of course. Who the fuck can fix near EVERYONE elses problems without some sort of stiffen or tax, or trade off. Duh..
Anyways, you guys all make very good points and if we work together..maybe just maybe we could change the mind of this stubborn destruction dude...
but...
worst case scenario, if we have no luck with convincing...
we could always beat him down Jersey style...haha..
Thank you for all you and your fellow brothers and sisters do for all of us.....believe me, irrespective of the agenda of the media and some ignorant people, we know and appreciate the sacrifice and progress you have made......I too have family and friends in the military, and they too can not stomach what the media chooses to focus on, or portray things, or the windbags in our own country that spit out propoganda like this author (and those who would waste the time posting it).
Your last statement in your p.s. was outstanding, and truly says it all about the men and wome in uniform............Godspeed
It must be a thrill to be such a jackbooted Nazi. The thrill of "OBEY" is so alluring, I suppose. Enjoy the next four years as your family and friends are sent off to pointless war after pointless war, none of which make the United States one iota safer. Perhaps they'll get killed "maintaining my security" in Fallujah or some other third-world shithole filled with people who hate America more than they used to before we arrived and bombed their civilians, blew up their churches, shot surrendering teenagers inside their mosques and sexually humiliated their prisoners. Or maybe you believe the fiction that invading Iraq has made us "safer," despite the fact that the President of Pakistan said on CNN that the invasion of Iraq was a horrible mistake which has made everyone less safe? The same with our other military dictator you fucking mongoloids, the President of Egypt. You know, when puppet military dictators who maintain power by brutally repressing their people with guns that the United States sells them for half price (and we wonder why Arabs hate America) are on TV saying that our completely unnecessary War On Iraq was a mistake, it should make you think twice. Either way, we're stuck there now for the next ten to twenty years. I sure hope they enjoy their tour(s), as they no doubt voted for GW Bush twice, convinced that Al Qaeda was hiding in Iraq, that Saddam was ten days from getting a nuclear bomb and that the Boogeyman was hiding under Iraq's bed. I hope they enjoy the endless stop-loss loop they're sure to get stuck in! BTW, none of my actions mock the men in the military: only their Commander-in-Chief and their top echelon commanders. It's threats like yours to relieve Americans of their civil rights and to torture and rape your fellow Americans which make some people distrust the military. Such comments are disgusting and completely unworthy of a member of America's military. Maybe they should move to South America... I understand that many of those countries encourage such behavior by their armed forces. They'd doubtless be happier murdering people in a Guatemalan Death Squad. Maybe they should look into it.
Maybe you ought to join up and look into it yourselves since you're so hellbent on murdering and torture and advocate it so much like good reich wing anti-american mongoloids.
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Wow. The CP anti-American rethuglikkklan contingent of the KKK is in reunion once again. How nice.
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ROBERT WEINER AND ALEXIS LEVENTHAL
Saddam's secrets
By Robert Weiner and Alexis Leventhal | June 30, 2005
THERE IS AN assumption that Saddam Hussein's upcoming trial will validate the Iraq war -- but watch out.
The trial -- starting as soon as next month -- may not be great news for the United States. In fact, it may allow the former Iraqi dictator to publicize some obscure but extremely sordid aspects of the US relationship with him and make a very public defense against the validity of the constantly changing reasons for the current Iraq war. The trial could easily backfire and go haywire from the US government's point of view.
The United States has coordinated holding Saddam for over a year and a half with no trial yet. It appears that Iraq wants to start the trial, while we are happy with the delays.
Unquestionably, Saddam was a horrible and untrustworthy tyrant who led a regime that killed hundreds of thousands of his own people with chemical weapons. As General George Casey, commander of our Iraq troops, told Congress June 23 in foreshadowing the trial, Hussein conducted ''tyranny for three decades."
Yet Saddam could easily point out that our interests were protected when he was in power and remind the world of US and European support and arms to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq conflict. Even more embarrassing to the United States, he could bring out that the CIA used and paid him (he could even show financial records if he wanted to) ''as their instrument for more than 40 years . . . Saddam was seen by US intelligence services as a bulwark of anticommunism," UPI reported on April 10, 2003. As early as 1959, Saddam began his CIA links by serving on a ''CIA authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi prime minister General Abd al-Karim Qasim," states UPI. For years afterward, Saddam provided intelligence to us in the Cold War against the Soviet Union. Of course, the CIA will not comment or says ''ridiculous," which may be true but is no denial. CIA reticence is hardly new-- secrecy is its job. Thank goodness for open media.
Ten days after the UPI story, Reuters reported similar information from Roger Morris, a former State Department foreign service officer who was on the NSC staff during the Johnson and Nixon administrations: ''There's no question" about the paid link, he said.
While Saddam was obligated to keep his apparent CIA connection secret while in progress, he is hardly obligated to do so now, at his trial or in media sidebars, given that we captured and imprisoned him.
Moreover, the bulk of the actual charges happened prior to Gulf War I, not II. President Bush I decided to leave him sanctioned but not destroyed. The charges against Saddam include killing huge numbers of Kurds, possessing and constructing weapons of mass destruction, and invading Kuwait. That only makes it clear that these actions were from 15 or more years ago, before the first Gulf War. Before the whole world, the trial will spotlight that we had nothing new for the new war in Iraq -- little to explain it other than rationalizations after initial reasons evaporated.
Did he have any significant link to Al Qaeda? No, says the 9/11 Commission.
Did he have current WMDs? No, says everyone now.
One of the few legitimate issues is that he possessed missiles that traveled 10 percent farther than the allowable distance. If that were a poll, it would almost be within the margin of error.
Embarrassing to the United States, his lawyers will point out that, as requested, Saddam submitted a report -- some 12,000 pages -- to the United Nations stating that he had destroyed all WMDs, and he even went to the field where he'd destroyed many to demonstrate the fact. We did not want to believe him at the time, but the report turned out to be true. He'll then point to Secretary of State Colin Powell's absolute statement to the UN showing WMD locations which turned out to be vacuum factory trucks.
No doubt Saddam tempted the United States to look for weapons of mass destruction when he declared his nation's sovereignty, blustering that ''evil people" who threatened Iraq would be ''left in the dustbin of history." The bluster notwithstanding, international pressure and sanctions were actually working.
In his initial appearance in court last June, Saddam's calling the trial ''theater by Bush," showed he will be no shrinking violet. When the trial unfolds, while we see that Saddam may be guilty of the violations he is accused of from years ago, we will also likely hear him reveal secrets we are uncomfortable with on perhaps the world's biggest stage. If we are to demand honesty, then honesty must also be our policy to end the lies and deceit all around.
Robert Weiner, a senior public affairs official in the Clinton White House 1995-2001, is president of Robert Weiner Associates, where Alexis Leventhal is a Middle East policy analyst.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/06/30/saddams_secrets/
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you're a moron nothing can get it through to you putting oup a picture doesn't make you right genius.
Translation:
I have made this post to admit that you have proven me wrong and to admit you are absolutely correct and also to admit I cannot defend my arguement. With that being said, personal attacks is all I have left to resort to due to my frustration, lack of intelect and my own immaturity.Thank you for your admittal.
Questioning the picture and not addressing the points I made with an educated counter arguement doesn't aid in any contribution in a legitamate debate and proves you have no arguement you are capable of defending and only validates the points of your adversaries. At least apply your personal attacks in such a manner that will make you look more intelligent.... oh wait.....
In other words siceone, grow up and present your arguement (if you have one you can defend which I doubt) with DOCUMENTED FACTS in a more adult and civil manner as well as within reason instead of throwing tantrums like a 6 year old child who had his toys taken away from him for misbehaving and being insubordinate to his parents.
Grow up.
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no hypocrisy here, just a bunch of petulant idiots who don't contribute any rational discussion, just one sided liberal insanity. this board sucks cause of myopic fucks like you. instead of always criticisizing Israel and the U.S., try looking at the foibles of the islamic world.
"No child left behind" at its' finest.
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so you wouldnt have a problem with Israel banning women from voting if they did so? because hey...if islamic countries can do it...so can we!
It wouldn't surprise me if he has no problem with that.
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Oops, touch a raw nerve there huh?
Hmm...lets see last time I checked islamic states weren't considered "freedom loving democracies". Its funny - you people love to point out how backward Islamic states are, but when shit like this happens, you also love to use these islamic states as the standards to go by. I would have thought you would compare yourself to more western countries.
Hey, if you don't like the article don't read it. I have every right to post anything I want. Especially now, the way those retarded settlers are acting.
Gotta love how right wing hypocrites contridict themselves.
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you have got to be FUCKING KIDDNG Me YOU CITE ME A REPORT THAT WAS CREATED AFTER THE WAR ENDED TO REFUTE THE FACT THAT BEFORE THE WAR EVERYONE AND THIER MOTHERS AND THIER INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES BELIVED SADDAM HAD AN ACTIVE WEAPONS PROGRAM ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!! does the linear fucking flow of time mean anything to you. have you managed to move in the 4th dimension and gained the ability to control the sequence of events?
damn you people are so fucking stupid it's frustrating more than entertaining.
TRANSLATION
I have no arguement I can defend.The fact is loser, Saddam destroyed his WMDs after the Gulf War. In 1991. You see, after the Gulf War, the UN imposed sanctions on Saddam rendering him w/o financial resources to rebuild his arsenal and develop new weapons with the same technology WE sold him when Iraq was at war with Iran. It is true he wanted to build new weapons, however he had not the financial resources due to the sanctions. He figured if he destroyed the weapons he had (which he did not have much of after the Gulf War) the UN would believe he's making the commitment to be no longer a threat to the ME and therefore lift the sanctions but the UN refused. End result, NO WMD, NO FINANCIAL RESOURCES to rebuild his arsenal and develop NEW WMD including nuclear weapons.
The photos that were presented to the UN were DATA MINED. In other words, they DUPED the global community by using now 14 year old pictures and made them out to be recent. This has been well documented.
By the way imbecile, Bush admitted there were no WMD,
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/09/iraq/main562312.shtml
Kristol admitted there were no WMD,
http://www.yuricareport.com/PoliticalAnalysis/Kristol%20Admits%20False%20Statements.html
Tenet admitted there were no WMD,
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/11/sprj.irq.wmdspeech/
Colin Powell admitted there were no WMD,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3596033.stm
And since then, the Bush Administration has abandoned the search for WMD.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-1437379,00.html
Seriously, can you back your arguement now? Not with biased propaganda from the Bush Cheerleading Squad but with documented FACTS?
This will be interesting, lol.
By the way, this war never ended and yes, I will present an actual government document that proves he never had any WMD because the findings were after the fact that Bush and his clowns deceived both congress and the UN to wage an illegal war to exact revenge for his father and steal the oil. It's funny when the US marched onto Baghdad the first thing they did was head straight to the oil ministry while the museum was being pillaged and ransacked destroying historical artfacts etc...
You don't believe the war is illegal?
Richard Pearle admitted to it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1089158,00.html
And if you still don't believe it, check out this US Government doc. Here are some excepts from it. The link is at the bottom if you want to read it in its entirety:
Mr. McDERMOTT. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt) for having this session tonight. I come out here, it is 11:35 at night. You ask yourself, why does a Congressman come into the well at 11:30 at night to talk about Iraq. Well, today was an absolutely stunning day. And I will submit into the RECORD an article in the Guardian Newspaper from Thursday, November 20, entitled, ``War Critics Astonished as U.S. Hawk Admits Invasion was Illegal.''Mr. Speaker, now in an absolutely stunning statement today, Richard Perle, who has been the chairman of the Defense Policy Board, this is the board that talks to the President about what he should do with defense, today he said, ``I think in this case international law stood in the way of doing the right thing.'' Now, consider what that means. International law says what we are doing is illegal, but we are going to go ahead and do it anyway because we made the decision that what we think is more important than international law.
In the same US Government document (Iraq Watch
An Ilegal Invasion?) dated November 21, 2003, I am going to cite, It went on to display the same article I posted from the Guardian I have already linked.
After the article was cited, McDermott continued,
"Mr. Speaker, I think that says a lot about why we are in the problem we are in. Because Perle went on to say that international law would have required us to leave Saddam Hussein alone. He admits it. International law would have required us to leave Saddam Hussein alone.""Now, how can the President of the United States come before us and present this as an imminent danger and all this stuff when the law says you cannot do it? He did not want to go to the United Nations. We understand why he did not want to go to the United Nations. Why? If he had had to stand up to international law, he would never have been able to do this."
"Perle went on to say, this is unbelievable, really, when you think about it, he said, ``A divergence of view between the British Government and some senior voices in American public life who have expressed the view that, well, if it is the case that international law does not permit unilateral preemptive action without authority of the U.N., then the defect is in the international law.''
Link...
http://www.house.gov/delahunt/iraqwatch_11-21-03.htm
In other words Siceone, Bush's own people KNEW the war is illegal and McDermott (and the rest of the Bush Brass) knows Perle is right about this, so how can you extreme righties blatantly claim this war is legal when Bush's own people admitted the opposite of your (long since debunked) claims? I hope you can answer this because your arguements has just been totally destroyed, provenly flawed and has been completely debunked.
The UN charter:
Article 2, section 4 All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.Exceptions for war are made in the case of self-defence or the defence of allied nations.
Since the US is a charter member of the UN and is signatory to the UN charter, it must abide by it. The US has violated it as well as the Geneva Convention. I hope you realize under military law (I will cite at the bottom of this post) the US military MUST abide under the geneva convention (international law) and so does the US itself.
No nation itself can unilaterally decide to enforce a UN resolution. And no nation itself can unilaterally decide to enforce a UN resolution."
Iraq never attacked the USA. Therefore Attacking Iraq is illegal. What Article 2 is trying to say is that a nation has the right to defend itself from an attacking enemy and can only attack a foreign entity when the foreign entity has attacked IT. Since Iraq did not attack the US, the US has no right to attack them. This is the point you are missing. The terrorists who attacked the US came from Saudi Arabia. Why haven't we attacked them??
Anyhow...
Here is the military law I am going to cite:
3.1. Law of War. That part of international law that regulates the conduct of armed hostilities. It is often called the law of armed conflict. The law of war encompasses all international law for the conduct of hostilities binding on the United States or its individual citizens, including treaties and international agreements to which the United States is a party, and applicable customary international law.http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/html2/d510077x.htm#cr1
en·com·pass Audio pronunciation of "encompasses" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-kmps)
tr.v. en·com·passed, en·com·pass·ing, en·com·pass·es
1. To form a circle or ring around; surround. See Synonyms at surround.
2. To enclose; envelop.
3. To constitute or include: a survey that encompassed a wide range of participants.
4. To accomplish; achieve.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=encompasses
The US has clearly violated their own law regarding international law and they know it.
Your worthless arguement has officially met its' complete destruction.
Consider yourself...
Go back to clown school mongoloid jr.
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