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Fuck my Aids test.......LOL

im gonna stick a needle in my Aids infested body..and prick your little Ass with it....

or better tet....we can conduct an experiment..

Shall we.....

We'll have SoundFactory Joe come over and stick his dick in you and see if you can Create Friciton in the GRAND CANYON you FAT Fucking NO CLUE CLIT SLUT

The aids commet is kinda low dont you think.....but i would expect that coming froma A dumb Straight fucking Whore like yourself...

im not worried about it tho....

Karma's a bitch......and im sure the people on this board who are infected by it didint think it was Funny....

But......lol i did........god your such a little cunt...and only in yor 20's brings a fucking tear to my eye:laugh:

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Originally posted by jaysea

Hunny im from Up-Town.....

Born and fucking Raised it aint no different than DOWNTOWN

PUSSY JUST COST'S MORE UP-TOWN......

:laugh:

>ME

Oh yeah, harlem and alphabet city are one in the same. You're right for once.

(Figures you were from the ghetto! Did you get your bad boy joe compilation cd yet????)

LOLLLLOL

-iliana

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Originally posted by jaysea

god your soooooooo fucking Stupid

your showing your true colors now darling.....

Hahahahahaha

KEEP GOING........u might become a flyer!!!

hahahahahah LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

My true colors consist of your gay flag.... you love every fucking minute of it gay bitch!

And no I don't fly.....I don't smoke crack- unlike yourself.....CRACK WHORE!

-iliana

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WE HAVE TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME ESP when im pissy and my day at work sucks......

God.......i give props to Staight bitches

you have proved today that Straight bitches can also BE SO FIERCE!!

Gay men arent alone are we........

i think my Aids infested ass found love......

Hahhhhhhhhhhahhaahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahah

:laugh:

WHOAAAAAAAA SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

and hunny crack was so PALLADIUM!

get with it Girl! :laugh:

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Originally posted by jaysea

WE HAVE TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME ESP when im pissy and my day at work sucks......

God.......i give props to Staight bitches

you have proved today that Straight bitches can also BE SO FIERCE!!

Gay men arent alone are we........

i think my Aids infested ass found love......

Hahhhhhhhhhhahhaahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahah

:laugh:

WHOAAAAAAAA SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

and hunny crack was so PALLADIUM!

get with it Girl! :laugh:

Oh,,so a BIG SHOT like yourself has a crappy "JOB"??? WHat..with all your millions Mr. CEO, its a down day for you??

Bwaaahahhaha

:laugh: :laugh:

-iliana

:D

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to go there........lol

i never did more than 2 years of school....

and i use to do an Article in Vogue/ and Click"

and when my mother passed away...she left me her Estate...and i sold it.....that's where my money comes from Nosey bitch....

and TRUST me hun...its more money than your ass will ever see on the corner...so keep sucking those dicks and Swallow that Cum like a good little""" Martini siping wish u lived on E73st SELF""" Ok.......now i gotta go n do some work.....

u be a Good little Cum Dumpster! *Huh*

>Me

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Originally posted by jaysea

to go there........lol

i never did more than 2 years of school....

That's very apparent.

and i use to do an Article in Vogue/ and Click"

And you used to blow trannies in the meat packing distric..so what?

and when my mother passed away...she left me her Estate...and i sold it.....that's where my money comes from Nosey bitch....

Honey, WIC checks and SSI is not considered "estate"

Ha! A trust fund kid..FIGURES!!! People like you have no idea what a "CAREER" means.

LOSER!!!!!

:laugh::D

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ha ha ha..

You guys are funny!

Jaysee..

Anyone that wasn't there won't know

what it was like so it's pointless to argue

with them..all they have is the media and

the current hype over the past to base

any judgements on..(It's not their fault..

It's like the older folks claiming that

Clubs and Raves are all about Drugs..

What do they know.)

I mean sure Drugs where a HUGE

part of the scene and it drove many

kids to ruin..but think of all the talent

that DID grow out of that world..

as far as I know many of the kids at the LL Disco

2000 went on to become huge promoters, owners of clubs,

DJs..etc..

The club kids where just the Circus..and it

was great! If you where there you knew

the impact of walking into another world..

there was an energy there that went beyond

the chemicals..

Clubland has become a petty world

of glam and paranoia (No glowsticks

at ARC, Dress codes..etc) and a lack

of creativity!

Thank goodness for places like LUXX,

Lunaterium and the movie studio place

in long Island City to keep things fresh

and fun!

Iliana..whatever..

I too am from that era.

Too bad you missed it..

that's all I can say (you would

have loved it) but then again

your just some kid who has to watch

some documentary to learn the roots

of the musical culture that you might think you where

apart of....

It's like Twilo..(not that it ever

had thevibe of Disco 2000 but

it came close some nights)

people that never went are like

"man I'm glad it closed down..

I heard everyone was on drugs in there..

it's Twilo's fault that Guliani fucked up

NYC's nightlife..way to go!"

which I always makes me wanna

slap that person and be like;

How the hell would you know?

You where never there! So you read

the news paper article and your an expert now?

lol..

..Some of us where there and

know that Drugs are EVERYWHERE!

And some of us know that things move on..

but we look at the past for inspiration

on how to make the NOW a better place..

Nostalgia can be fuel for creativity and a better tomorrow!

You say the art scene died with Warhol..?

It didn't kido..it just changed..but most

of you guys on CP just don't know where to look

for it (nor do too many care)

*(Believe me if I would have had the cash

to start something I would have..)

Ask the Blakkat crew, Things to Come gang,

Anti-ego troop, Combustive arts,Lary T (LUXX),Complacement

and any other crews that tries to make clubland

interesting again where they draw their inspiration

from.

(lol)

Hope springs eternal..

I hope NYC captures the spirit

that it has almost lost...

M*

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Originally posted by irenegade7

Read the book though

funny as hell

I'm reading it now, it's hilarious! Lots of drug use and the crazy things you do when you abuse substances. Definately a great read. As far as the movie goes, I dunno about Seth Green as James St. James. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Filming commenced last spring, and it's scheduled to come out by the end of 2003. I just ordered the original "Party Monster" from a web site in Cali, www.clubthings.com.

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Originally posted by mugwump

ha ha ha..

You guys are funny!

I mean sure Drugs where a HUGE

part of the scene and it drove many

kids to ruin..but think of all the talent

that DID grow out of that world..

as far as I know many of the kids at the LL Disco

2000 went on to become huge promoters, owners of clubs,

DJs..etc..

Huge promoters that promote WHAT SPECTACULAR parties?

What SPECTACULAR clubs do they own?

What SPECTACULAR dj's are you speaking of?

Please don't mention Keoki or Larry T. They are FOURTH rate musicians. As you can see they haven't progressed from the Alig era butI gotta hand it to them , they DO try.

The club kids where just the Circus..and it

was great! If you where there you knew

the impact of walking into another world..

there was an energy there that went beyond

the chemicals..

Thank goodness for places like LUXX,

Lunaterium and the movie studio place

in long Island City to keep things fresh

and fun!

I'm sure the club kids were fun to look at and be around with. In the beginning they created a unique atmosphere for nighlife.

I find it moronic when people glorify Michael Alig as some quirky bitchy club kid "that was loved" and was a "genius' and oh yeah, he murdered someone but..we still "love" him. Perhaps he was an amazing promoter but to pick up wher he left off is proof that even old timers like yourself have no ARTISITC VISION. You want to revamp an atmosphere that was marred by drugs, callousness, inflated egos, and a disregard for life.

Iliana..whatever..

I too am from that era.

Too bad you missed it..

that's all I can say (you would

have loved it) but then again

your just some kid who has to watch

some documentary to learn the roots

of the musical culture that you might think you where

apart of....

Don't mistake yourself. I didnt miss anything. Just like I didnt miss Studio 54, Max's Kansas City, CBGB's, Danceteria. It's in the past..who cares. Get over it!. Move on. The club kids ARE NOT COMING BACK!

I never claimed to be part of any culture. Its clubbing for God's sake!. I don't obsess about it like you ..it's not my life. It's a recreational activity.

I'M sorry to be the one to inform you that YOU WERE NOT PART OF THE CREATION OF OUR MUSICAL CULTURE. You were ten years late hunny. It didn't start in New York City.

Read up on your history.

Nostalgia can be fuel for creativity and a better tomorrow!

You say the art scene died with Warhol..?

It didn't kido..it just changed..but most

of you guys on CP just don't know where to look

for it (nor do too many care)

Each person has their own opinion on what art is. My opinion- Andy Warhol was a real artist. With his death came the club kids trying to capture fame and celebrity status through SHOCK VALUE....NOT ART TO ME! So TRUE Art and TRUE talent died with Andy.

Again, hope you and your pals work up a brand new art scene. New York is dead and will continue to be so with the current unoriginal, no vision clubbers as well as the has-beens who are holding on to an era that is long gone, dead, and should be left in the vaults of club land history.

Think ON YOUR OWN....

-iliana

;)

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Originally posted by iliana

Again, hope you and your pals work up a brand new art scene. New York is dead and will continue to be so with the current unoriginal, no vision clubbers as well as the has-beens who are holding on to an era that is long gone, dead, and should be left in the vaults of club land history.

Think ON YOUR OWN....

-iliana

;)

Once again I think your funny....

Yup your right LL didn't start the scene..

but it sure influenced a shit load of people..

And if you can't see that then perhaps

it is you that should go back and study music history..

(I was in Europe dancing to Kraftwerk and Clock DVA

at the time but I sure had enough visits to NY

to see a huge impact made in club culture after

Disco 2000..shit people in London where dying

to go check it out at the time..Club culture was out

of Gay clubs and had ecompassed the masses..

and it mixed more gays, freaks and curiouse seakers than anything in the past had ever done..It gave a home to clubbers of ALL TYPES! And it was an almost Utopian society for outcasts and people that felt like they didn't belong any where else. IT WAS GREAT!)

And if your trying to tell me guidos

and hoochies in clubland today

aren't dying of overdoses your kidding

yourself..nothings changed in that dept..

Different people loved different things

about The "Club Kids" They where tragic,

yes, deranged without a doubt..Drug addicts

(Most of them) But VERY VERY FUN AND

HYSTERICAL TO BE AROUND!!!

I will gladly spend a night out

with the likes of them and their circus

than with tight ass unimaginative gumbas

that think clubbing starts and ends with

pretty people and knowing the DJ and how

great you look in your new Armani jeans.

Clubbing is recreation for me..

but it's also inspiration..Music is

in my blood..as is art..and if you think

It died in the 60's then I feel bad for you

cus you are missing some great

nights in DUMBO and in the outer burroughs

where that spirit is very much alive

(Just not in the spotlight like Warhol was)

In the end however people will

only remember all the bad stuff...

And there was pleanty of it at the LL

just as there is pleanty of it today

in each and every club..

I myself was never a "club Kid"

But I loved hanging with them..

I followed my own deal..

Was into Drum and Bass as well

(Liquid sky days) Hung out with video artists

and DJs who are now very well known at

the LL (Ever hear of a guy called MOBY?

A girl named Chloe Sevegnie? A director called David Fincher?..

Keoki..Larry T..? etc...etc..)

I could name drop for ya

if ya like..but I wont.

CLUB KIDS where a colorfull

bunch that expressed themselves

through fassion and outlandish

pop art like moments of perfomance..

THEY WHERE WALKING ART.

(They where there Before Michael Alig..

who just gave them a spot light to shine

in..and they are very much

still around..in new "underground"

venues and as a new

generation..you just have to look.)

And having just been in Belgium I can

tell you that NYC is in a heap load of trouble..

It's becoming DISNEY land.

And all the shit snots that are too afraid

to look back..to try to reinvent the past

(See what worked and what didn't..

what made Clubbing what it was back then..

what distroyed some lifes and what

made others richer..) and shape the future..

Well to them I say whatever..

To each his her own..Let your city's

dance floors grow dim and pale to

the rest of the world..(I mean Music first and all

but when you stop and look around..

and feel no VIBE..it sucks)

Some of us addicted to creative

environments will always find it..

and perhaps..given the right

time and CASH..we might just

some day return to NY and

start something fresh.

Just a mugwumps perspective.

But arguying tastes in club culture

is like arguying what smells worst a fart or

a lump of shit...(You say Tomato and i'll say

TomatoE)

it's all good!

M

U

GZ

:)

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Originally posted by mugwump

Once again I think your funny....

Yup your right LL didn't start the scene..

but it sure influenced a shit load of people..

And if you can't see that then perhaps

it is you that should go back and study music history..

(I was in Europe dancing to Kraftwerk and Clock DVA

at the time but I sure had enough visits to NY

to see a huge impact made in club culture after

Disco 2000..shit people in London where dying

to go check it out at the time..Club culture was out

of Gay clubs and had ecompassed the masses..

and it mixed more gays, freaks and curiouse seakers than anything in the past had ever done..It gave a home to clubbers of ALL TYPES! And it was an almost Utopian society for outcasts and people that felt like they didn't belong any where else. IT WAS GREAT!)

And if your trying to tell me guidos

and hoochies in clubland today

aren't dying of overdoses your kidding

yourself..nothings changed in that dept..

Different people loved different things

about The "Club Kids" They where tragic,

yes, deranged without a doubt..Drug addicts

(Most of them) But VERY VERY FUN AND

HYSTERICAL TO BE AROUND!!!

I will gladly spend a night out

with the likes of them and their circus

than with tight ass unimaginative gumbas

that think clubbing starts and ends with

pretty people and knowing the DJ and how

great you look in your new Armani jeans.

Clubbing is recreation for me..

but it's also inspiration..Music is

in my blood..as is art..and if you think

It died in the 60's then I feel bad for you

cus you are missing some great

nights in DUMBO and in the outer burroughs

where that spirit is very much alive

(Just not in the spotlight like Warhol was)

In the end however people will

only remember all the bad stuff...

And there was pleanty of it at the LL

just as there is pleanty of it today

in each and every club..

I myself was never a "club Kid"

But I loved hanging with them..

I followed my own deal..

Was into Drum and Bass as well

(Liquid sky days) Hung out with video artists

and DJs who are now very well known at

the LL (Ever hear of a guy called MOBY?

A girl named Chloe Sevegnie? A director called David Fincher?..

Keoki..Larry T..? etc...etc..)

I could name drop for ya

if ya like..but I wont.

CLUB KIDS where a colorfull

bunch that expressed themselves

through fassion and outlandish

pop art like moments of perfomance..

THEY WHERE WALKING ART.

(They where there Before Michael Alig..

who just gave them a spot light to shine

in..and they are very much

still around..in new "underground"

venues and as a new

generation..you just have to look.)

And having just been in Belgium I can

tell you that NYC is in a heap load of trouble..

It's becoming DISNEY land.

And all the shit snots that are too afraid

to look back..to try to reinvent the past

(See what worked and what didn't..

what made Clubbing what it was back then..

what distroyed some lifes and what

made others richer..) and shape the future..

Well to them I say whatever..

To each his her own..Let your city's

dance floors grow dim and pale to

the rest of the world..(I mean Music first and all

but when you stop and look around..

and feel no VIBE..it sucks)

Some of us addicted to creative

environments will always find it..

and perhaps..given the right

time and CASH..we might just

some day return to NY and

start something fresh.

Just a mugwumps perspective.

But arguying tastes in club culture

is like arguying what smells worst a fart or

a lump of shit...(You say Tomato and i'll say

TomatoE)

it's all good!

M

U

GZ

:)

Let me state that I do support your endeavor in bringing back the nightlife that NYC once offered. I don't want to shoot down the future of NYC nightlife...i wish you and even jaysea good luck. We all lack something brand new and fresh...Nyc is dying here...no art and no fun.

Due to certain circumstances that have happened (Sept 11, terrorist threats) we shouldn't blame new yorkers for going back to basics...worrying about their next paycheck instead of worrying about getting an outlandish outfit for Friday night Vinyl.

It might be a while before we see the resurgence of creativity, imagination and even relaxation and openess within our city.

I agree with you on the meat head/gumba comment. I'd prefer to see the real pretty people (i.e. beautiful drag queens and up and coming fashionistas) over your regular Bridge and tunnel crowd.

But don't forget, Even Paris herself is LAX with door policies.

Today club owners, club promoters, door people are influenced by the mighty dollar.

We should start with strict door policies at clubs. Maybe then we'll see a change in the crowd.

-iliana

:)

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god im childish sometimes...

things change and Creativety is Undergorund now, and with the hopes of good music, good people. and smaller Venues, Ny can carry out some sort of vibe...

anyway....i hope with the opening of powder,N Taste" there will be some Tastier things to do....lol

anyway....enought of the drama.

this weekend Drained way to much out of me,

"im not normally a Bitter jaded Cunt"

LOL

>olympia;)

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