hotcheme Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 i heard about bloombergs 4 ppl to a car thing which sucks but losing the MTA in ne york is just scary. is it really going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynkid Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Interesting read from today's Daily News...Mayor ready to do battle in courtroom By DAVID SALTONSTALLDAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF Mayor Bloomberg announces contingency plan in case of transit strike. As the city braces for a possible transit strike, City Hall also is plotting an aggressive legal strategy that, as it has before, may well stop any strike from happening."Make no mistake about it," Mayor Bloomberg said yesterday. "We will avail ourselves of every legal remedy."His list of remedies is said to include a possible injunction against the Transport Workers Union that would fine members $25,000 apiece for every day they walk off the job - and penalize union leaders the same amount for even talking about a strike, City Hall sources said."It is something you do as a last resort," one City Hall source said. "But rest assured that if the [injunction] is brought, it will call for the harshest penalties available - on individual members and the union itself."When then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani pioneered the approach in 1999, that meant strikers could be fined a whopping $25,000 a day. And that amount would double each day - to $1.6 million for each worker after one week.It worked - the union settled for a pay raise of 12.5% over three years.The newly threatened sanctions would be in addition to those outlined in the state's powerful Taylor Law, which allows the state to dock striking workers two days' pay for each day missed."The penalties can be very severe," said Bruce McIver, a former labor relations chief under Mayor Ed Koch.In 1980, when the TWU walked off the job for 11 days, that led to a fine of $1.25 million against the union. It also lost its right to subtract union dues from employee paychecks for 18 months.Bloomberg is prepared to push both methods to force a settlement, although technically the Taylor Law must be invoked by the state Metropolitan Transportation Authority.City lawyers were in court yesterday to protect their right to file the injunction, which the TWU is seeking to head off wit apiece for every day they walk off the job - and penalize union leaders the same amount for even talking about a strike, City Hall sources said."It is something you do as a last resort," one City Hall source said. "But rest assured that if the [injunction] is brought, it will call for the harshest penalties available - on individual members and the union itself."When then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani pioneered the approach in 1999, that meant strikers could be fined a whopping $25,000 a day. And that amount would double each day - to $1.6 million for each worker after one week.It worked - the union settled for a pay raise of 12.5% over three years.The newly threatened sanctions would be in addition to those outlined in the state's powerful Taylor Law, which allows the state to dock striking workers two days' pay for each day missed."The penalties can be very severe," said Bruce McIver, a former labor relations chief under Mayor Ed Koch.In 1980, when the TWU walked off the job for 11 days, that led to a fine of $1.25 million against the union. It also lost its right to subtract union dues from employee paychecks for 18 months.Bloomberg is prepared to push both methods to force a settlement, although technically the Taylor Law must be invoked by the state Metropolitan Transportation Authority.City lawyers were in court yesterday to protect their right to file the injunction, which the TWU is seeking to head off withapiece for every day they walk off the job - and penalize union leaders the same amount for even talking about a strike, City Hall sources said."It is something you do as a last resort," one City Hall source said. "But rest assured that if the [injunction] is brought, it will call for the harshest penalties available - on individual members and the union itself."When then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani pioneered the approach in 1999, that meant strikers could be fined a whopping $25,000 a day. And that amount would double each day - to $1.6 million for each worker after one week.It worked - the union settled for a pay raise of 12.5% over three years.The newly threatened sanctions would be in addition to those outlined in the state's powerful Taylor Law, which allows the state to dock striking workers two days' pay for each day missed."The penalties can be very severe," said Bruce McIver, a former labor relations chief under Mayor Ed Koch.In 1980, when the TWU walked off the job for 11 days, that led to a fine of $1.25 million against the union. It also lost its right to subtract union dues from employee paychecks for 18 months.Bloomberg is prepared to push both methods to force a settlement, although technically the Taylor Law must be invoked by the state Metropolitan Transportation Authority.City lawyers were in court yesterday to protect their right to file the injunction, which the TWU is seeking to head off withapiece for every day they walk off the job - and penalize union leaders the same amount for even talking about a strike, City Hall sources said."It is something you do as a last resort," one City Hall source said. "But rest assured that if the [injunction] is brought, it will call for the harshest penalties available - on individual members and the union itself."When then-Mayor Rudy Giuliani pioneered the approach in 1999, that meant strikers could be fined a whopping $25,000 a day. And that amount would double each day - to $1.6 million for each worker after one week.It worked - the union settled for a pay raise of 12.5% over three years.The newly threatened sanctions would be in addition to those outlined in the state's powerful Taylor Law, which allows the state to dock striking workers two days' pay for each day missed."The penalties can be very severe," said Bruce McIver, a former labor relations chief under Mayor Ed Koch.In 1980, when the TWU walked off the job for 11 days, that led to a fine of $1.25 million against the union. It also lost its right to subtract union dues from employee paychecks for 18 months.Bloomberg is prepared to push both methods to force a settlement, although technically the Taylor Law must be invoked by the state Metropolitan Transportation Authority.City lawyers were in court yesterday to protect their right to file the injunction, which the TWU is seeking to head off with an injunction of its own. Manhattan Federal Court Judge William Pauley ended the 10-minute hearing by ordering both sides to prepare briefs by today at 5 p.m.City Hall sources said that, assuming the city's right to impose steep fines is upheld, the only issue was timing. They suggested they may not formally seek an injunction until later this week, as the Sunday-at-midnight strike deadline approaches."There is still time on the clock," one City Hall source said.TWU lawyer Arthur Schwartz did not return calls for comment.The strategy appears to be part of a two-pronged approach by Bloomberg, who in addition to borrowing Giuliani's legal docket is also tearing a page from Koch's playbook.It was Koch who famously greeted pedestrians as they walked into the city across the Brooklyn Bridge during the strike in 1980. Bloomberg, for his part, said he planned on riding a bike to City Hall from his upper East Side home."I hope calmer heads prevail," the mayor said. "But if a strike does occur, New York City government will take all of its legal remedies to stop it. And New Yorkers will join together to keep it from stopping us." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcheme Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 the cut and paste bug is really pissing me off. so if i read that right, we think they are going to be able toavoid it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilo Beauty Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by hotcheme the cut and paste bug is really pissing me off. so if i read that right, we think they are going to be able toavoid it? Can you even fucking read??????????????Um. let's re-read it..S L O W L Y this time....good girl -iliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcheme Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by iliana Can you even fucking read??????????????Um. let's re-read it..S L O W L Y this time....good girl -iliana well i know you don't usually bother.if you actually READ the article you will find that the text is repeated in inconsistent loops ust like many other posts lately. It has been a bug since the server got changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgym Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Even if the city CAN stop them from striking, I still think there could still be a few days of craziness and unrest :worry2:And yeah right Bloomburg will ride his bike to work He'll do it one day, realize how hard it is to get from the upper east side to downtown IN THE COLD, and then resort to his own drivers to take him.But it would be funny to see mike ride with an entourage of secret service bikers all in suits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcheme Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by gmccookny Even if the city CAN stop them from striking, I still think there could still be a few days of craziness and unrest :worry2:And yeah right Bloomburg will ride his bike to work He'll do it one day, realize how hard it is to get from the upper east side to downtown IN THE COLD, and then resort to his own drivers to take him.But it would be funny to see mike ride with an entourage of secret service bikers all in suits yeah and his drivers will sit in hours of traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilo Beauty Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by hotcheme well i know you don't usually bother.if you actually READ the article you will find that the text is repeated in inconsistent loops ust like many other posts lately. It has been a bug since the server got changed. Nice try, but the article is not jummbled up to the point of confusion...only your brain is. -iliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackorn Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 The thought of an MTA strike is pretty frightening since it will essentially cripple the city for it's duration. I can't see it possibly happening and I think they will do everything in their power to avoid it. Two industries that won't mind it- parking garages and cabbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcid21 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 how does this effect us jersey losers? I take NJ Transit busses into Port Authority...any danger there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcheme Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by marcid21 how does this effect us jersey losers? I take NJ Transit busses into Port Authority...any danger there? I think you might be ok - i you can walk to work from the port authority. though the traffic will kill you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrlin Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 4 in a car until 12am on Friday.I know that affects me heading into the city for the weekend.I feel extremely bad for people in NY who have to deal with this garbage to head into Manhattan.MTA did pick the perfect time.....THis will kill businesses in the coty during the Holidays if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotcheme Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by myrlin 4 in a car until 12am on Friday.I know that affects me heading into the city for the weekend. yeah me too - but that hasn't actually been passed has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 . . . Well, it looks like I'm not going into the city for a while . . DOH! . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elementx Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by marcid21 how does this effect us jersey losers? I take NJ Transit busses into Port Authority...any danger there? It probably wouldnt effect the NJ busses... It is 2 different locals...As a Union Employee. I don't see a strike. 98.999 % Of the time it is a publicity stunt to get the general public in an uproar. Hense giving the union an edge over the city... On the union side. No one wants to be out of work. They do not get paid. Normally the unions strike fund allows for about $30.00 a day for each employee... And um... That does not pay the mortgage... I work for Con Edison... We did the same thing. And when the deadline came... We reached what is called a tentative agreement. Which means that we are not 100% commited but we are happy enough that we will reach agreements somewhere along the line... Therefore we get back to work... So if you ask me... If the Deadline is 12Midnight on a certain date... Rest assure there will be busses and trains... It is the holidays... People would like Santa to visit there children... They dont want to sit unemployed until ASS HOLE Bloomberg makes up his mind... They will ask for a 18% Raise over 3 years... The city will give them 12% over 4 years... It is the same with every contract... Thats just my 2 Cents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrlin Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Originally posted by hotcheme yeah me too - but that hasn't actually been passed has it? Not yet....We shall see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howardstone Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...... it's so nice to be unemployed, when you guys are riding your bikes to work everyday like bloomberg I 'll be Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................I mean I'll still be poor but sound asleep none the less.Stone. :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjcbebe Posted December 11 Report Share Posted December 11 my dad is a lawyer for the MTA and the strike is a definite unless something extraoridinary happens ... they want to cut their pension and medical benefits and that is pretty heavy business. So expect to ride your bikes kids. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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