notallthere Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 I was looking over a menu in a restaurant the other day when I saw a section for vegetarians; I thought to myself "boy, I sure am glad that I'm not a meat-hating fascist" and I skipped on to the steak section (because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $15 for an alfalfa sandwich, slice of cucumber and a scoop of cold cottage cheese), but before I turned the page something caught my eye. The heading of the vegetarian section was titled "Guiltless Grill," not because there were menu items with fewer calories and cholesterol (since there were "healthy" chicken dishes discriminated against in this section), but because none of the items used animal products. Think about that phrase for a second. What exactly does "guiltless grill" imply? So I'm supposed to feel guilty now if I eat meat? Screw you. What pisses me off so much about this phrase is the sheer narrow-mindedness of these stuck up vegetarian assholes. You think you're saving the world by eating a tofu-burger and sticking to a diet of grains and berries? Well here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season (source). Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits. What's that? I'm sorry, I don't hear any more elitist banter from you pompous cocks. Could it be because your shit has been RUINED? That's right: the gloves have come off. The vegetarian response to this embarrassing fact is "well, at least we're not killing intentionally." So let me get this straight; not only are animals ruthlessly being murdered as a direct result of your diet, but you're not even using the meat of the animals YOU kill? At least we're eating the animals we kill, not just leaving them to rot in a field somewhere. That makes you far more morally repugnant than any meat-eater any day. Not only that, but you're killing free-roaming animals, not animals that were raised for feed. Their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, bones crushed, and you have the audacity to point fingers at the meat industry for humanely punching a spike through a cow's neck? If you think that tofu burgers come at no cost to animals or the environment, guess again. To even suggest that your meal is some how "guiltless" is absurd. The defense "at least we're not killing intentionally" is bullshit anyway. How is it not intentional if you KNOW that millions of animals die every year in combines during harvest? You expect me to believe that you somehow unintentionally pay money to buy products that support farmers that use combines to harvest their fields? There's no way out of this one. The only option left for you dipshits is to buy some land, plant and pick your own crops. Impractical? Yeah, well, so is your stupid diet. Even if combines aren't used to harvest your food, you think that buying fruits and vegetables (organic or otherwise) is any better? How do you think they get rid of bugs that eat crops in large fields? You think they just put up signs and ask parasites to politely go somewhere else? Actually, I wouldn't put that suggestion past you hippies. One of the methods they use to get rid of pests is to introduce a high level of predators for each particular prey, which wreaks all sorts of havoc on the natural balance of predator/prey populations--causing who knows what kind of damage to the environment. Oops, did I just expose you moral-elitists for being frauds? Damndest thing. A number of people have pointed out that the amount of grain grown to feed animals for slaughter every year is greater than the amount of grain grown for humans. So I guess the amount of grain grown for human consumption suddenly becomes negligible and we can conveniently ignore the fact that animals are still ruthlessly murdered either way because of your diet, right? Not to mention that the majority of grain grown for livestock is tough as rocks, coarse, and so low-grade that it's only fit for animal consumption in the first place. Spare me the "you could feed 500 people with the grain used to feed one cow" line of shit; it's not the same grain. Then there are the people who jump on the bandwagon with "you could plant billions of potatoes on the land used for cows"--good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land? Also, many vegetarians don't know (or care to acknowledge) that in many parts of the United States they have "control hunts" in which hunting permits are passed out whenever there is a pest problem (the pest here is deer, elk and antelope) that threatens wheat, soy, vegetable and other crops; this happens several times per year. Then some of you throw out claims that "we are trying to limit the suffering." How about you limit MY suffering and shut the hell up about your stupid diet for a change; nobody cares. Even if the number of animals that die in combine deaths every year isn't in the millions, even if it's just one, are you suggesting that the life of one baby rabbit isn't worth saving? Are you placing a value on life? Enjoy your tofu, murderers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninadd Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 I Like My Steak Bloody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobydigital Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 wow....u put a lotta heart into that post man....wow....thats all i can say about it right now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foodidoo Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 lets all go to New York Steak House aka METRO LOUNGE and order a big fat porterhouse.Fuck the veggieheads Oh yeah please reply to the My favorite cheese board b/c cheese is just as important as MEATS. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidCrackwhore Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 you alright there babe? i can see you like your steak very much, but turn it down a notch, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassfreq Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 I agree with your post 100%.My argument is that vegans are against taking an animals life away.. Well, isn't a carrot a living thing? Plants are technically alive and growing so why is it okay to slaughter millions of helpless potatos but not chickens?And thats another thing.. I've talked to people who say 'i don't eat meat, but i eat poultry.' WTF does that mean? The chicken is not worthy of protecting but the cow is? Ahaha.. please don't take me seriously.. This is just stupid shit i think about.Eat whatever you want... Life feeds on life, there is no way around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solargirl Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 notall there.I will approach this in a nice way..you are generalizing all vegans..vegans don't put guilt trip on anyone..I don't anyway..I personally just think its disgusting to chew on flesh from an animal that probably licks its balls. I don't eat any meat at all.I have my reasons why I feel this way and don't agree with people that try to force their opinions on other people..just like religion..we will not all agree what is that either. I believe it was ok when we were less evolved as a race but now we have no need to kill recklessly. example if you see a bug on the floor what is the first thing you do....most of you would answer kill it..but why..cuz its a bug and its gross..true! But mostly because you are trained to do that since you where a child..why not just put it outside ..the damn thing has a short life anyway..I just dont like to take any life ..no matter how insignificant it may seem ..in to my hands..its not my place. I can go on and on ..but I don't think anyone cares..I just wanted to give my opinion..without making judgments about all meat eaters..even when meat eaters seemed to judge all veganshttp://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/f00gordian.htmPart of an article from linkFor chapter after chapter, Eisnitz documents horrors almost beyond imagination, not in a few isolated cases, but from North Carolina to Washington State. The Humane Slaughter Act, she found, is entirely unenforced; most workmen—apparently even some inspectors—never heard of it. Living cattle, fully conscious and struggling, are shackled to the line to be skinned and dismembered. Live hogs are routinely dumped into scalding vats. “There’s no way these animals can bleed out in the time it takes to get up the ramp” workmen told Eisnitz. “By the time they hit the scalding tank they’re still conscious and squealing. Happens all the time.”For those who must see to believe, a video of conscious cattle being skinned and dismembered alive at IBP’s (formally Iowa Beef Processors) huge Wallula, Washington slaughterhouse was shown recently on Seattle television (see Barbaric Butchery of Cows, page 13). Workers at the plant, who have defied one of America’s most sinister corporations to tell the truth about conditions under which they labor, have sworn in affidavits that up to 30% of the animals going up the line are still alive.now could you imagine this happening to your pets if you have any?..this is why i dont eat meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solargirl Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 Originally posted by bassfreq I agree with your post 100%.My argument is that vegans are against taking an animals life away.. Well, isn't a carrot a living thing? Plants are technically alive and growing so why is it okay to slaughter millions of helpless potatos but not chickens?And thats another thing.. I've talked to people who say 'i don't eat meat, but i eat poultry.' WTF does that mean? The chicken is not worthy of protecting but the cow is? Ahaha.. please don't take me seriously.. This is just stupid shit i think about.Eat whatever you want... Life feeds on life, there is no way around it. excuse me i must interject as a science major..plants do not have feeling do to the fact that do not have a nervous system like animals. This is the usuall response of people ...so you would feel better about slicing the neck of a cow then a head of lettace in half?....I dont care who eats meat but I have to defend the right of animlas because they have no one to speak up for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foodidoo Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Hey solargirl, What about that animal that licks his balls, don't you think somehow his Papper and balls might have touched your nice steamed vegetables!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thats food for thought.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solargirl Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 ACTUALLY IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME ..ITS JUST THE SHEAR THOUGHT OF THE ANIMAL HAVING ITS NECK SLICED OPEN AND SKINNED WHILE POSSIBLY ALIVE..THATS MY PROBLEM WITH IT..BUT HEY IF YOU DONT MIND THAT STUFF..THEN NO BIGGIEI WILL NOT IMPOSE MY THOUGHT ON YOU OR ANYTHING..IM JUST TRYING TO DEFEND CREATURES THAT CANT DEFEND IT SELF.THATS ALL. I DONT TAKE IT LIGHTLY AND DONT THINK ITS FUNNY..SORRY. AND WHAT WAS THE NEED FOR THE POST YOU STUPID FUCKING VEGANS FOR ANYWAY..I DON'T GET THE STUPID PART..IM NOT SAYING ALL MEAT EATERS ARE STUPID..GUESS MY NON -CARNIVOROUS DIET MAKE ME LESS HOSTILE.I JUST CANT IMAGINE CUTTING OPEN MY DOG ,COOKING AND EATING ITS BODY PARTS..WHAT THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN PETS AND ANY OTHER ANIMALS?I DONT BELEIVE IN HUNTING OR KILLING..AND THATS THE WAY I WILL ALWAYS FEEL..I RESPECT YOUR THOUGHTS AS WELL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foodidoo Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 I like lil animals too. I even stock ketamine for when they come over to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Hmmm, this thread is giving me a craving for a nice filet mignon.Oh, on a side note............research has shown that guys who are vegetarians have lower testosterone levels than guys that aren't.gotta get that red meat in ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondiezel26 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Originally posted by solargirl [i JUST CANT IMAGINE CUTTING OPEN MY DOG ,COOKING AND EATING ITS BODY PARTS..WHAT THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN PETS AND ANY OTHER ANIMALS?Is your dog a vegan....... ..... puppy chow mixed with broccoli and asparagus.....yum......just playing with ya...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solargirl Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 MY DOF EATS VEGAN TREATS ..BUT IS ON PERSCRIPTION DIET..NOT SURE WHATS IN IT..IM SURE SOME GROSS STUFF...BUT MOSTLY HE EATS BAGELS AND CARROTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknybabe2929 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 a dog that eats bagels...now thats cute My dogs eats everything,including my socks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solargirl Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 HEY..ITS A GOOD TRADE OFF I GUESS..EAT MEAT ...CLOG YOUR ARTERIES IN YOUR OTHER MEAT:D EATING MEAT CAUSES YOUR PENIS TO BE CLOGGED UP!!!HEY DOESNT MATTER IF YOU DONT USE IT ANYWAY..HEHEHE..GIRLS LOOK FOR GUYS THAT ARE VEGANS..LES TEST. MEANS LESS AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR..LONGER LASTING ERCECTIONS..ITS A FACT!http://www.meatstinks.com/impot.htmlhttp://www.cyberparent.com/men/impotencecausescures.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Originally posted by solargirl HEY..ITS A GOOD TRADE OFF I GUESS..EAT MEAT ...CLOG YOUR ARTERIES IN YOUR OTHER MEAT:D EATING MEAT CAUSES YOUR PENIS TO BE CLOGGED UP!!!HEY DOESNT MATTER IF YOU DONT USE IT ANYWAY..HEHEHE..GIRLS LOOK FOR GUYS THAT ARE VEGANS..LES TEST. MEANS LESS AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR..LONGER LASTING ERCECTIONS..ITS A FACT!http://www.meatstinks.com/impot.htmlhttp://www.cyberparent.com/men/impotencecausescures.htm Is DEMARSPIN A vegetarian??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 :laugh: hahaha, funny.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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trewguy Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Originally posted by notallthere I was looking over a menu in a restaurant the other day when I saw a section for vegetarians; I thought to myself "boy, I sure am glad that I'm not a meat-hating fascist" and I skipped on to the steak section (because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $15 for an alfalfa sandwich, slice of cucumber and a scoop of cold cottage cheese), but before I turned the page something caught my eye. The heading of the vegetarian section was titled "Guiltless Grill," not because there were menu items with fewer calories and cholesterol (since there were "healthy" chicken dishes discriminated against in this section), but because none of the items used animal products. Think about that phrase for a second. What exactly does "guiltless grill" imply? So I'm supposed to feel guilty now if I eat meat? Screw you. What pisses me off so much about this phrase is the sheer narrow-mindedness of these stuck up vegetarian assholes. You think you're saving the world by eating a tofu-burger and sticking to a diet of grains and berries? Well here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season (source). Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits. What's that? I'm sorry, I don't hear any more elitist banter from you pompous cocks. Could it be because your shit has been RUINED? That's right: the gloves have come off. The vegetarian response to this embarrassing fact is "well, at least we're not killing intentionally." So let me get this straight; not only are animals ruthlessly being murdered as a direct result of your diet, but you're not even using the meat of the animals YOU kill? At least we're eating the animals we kill, not just leaving them to rot in a field somewhere. That makes you far more morally repugnant than any meat-eater any day. Not only that, but you're killing free-roaming animals, not animals that were raised for feed. Their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, bones crushed, and you have the audacity to point fingers at the meat industry for humanely punching a spike through a cow's neck? If you think that tofu burgers come at no cost to animals or the environment, guess again. To even suggest that your meal is some how "guiltless" is absurd. The defense "at least we're not killing intentionally" is bullshit anyway. How is it not intentional if you KNOW that millions of animals die every year in combines during harvest? You expect me to believe that you somehow unintentionally pay money to buy products that support farmers that use combines to harvest their fields? There's no way out of this one. The only option left for you dipshits is to buy some land, plant and pick your own crops. Impractical? Yeah, well, so is your stupid diet. Even if combines aren't used to harvest your food, you think that buying fruits and vegetables (organic or otherwise) is any better? How do you think they get rid of bugs that eat crops in large fields? You think they just put up signs and ask parasites to politely go somewhere else? Actually, I wouldn't put that suggestion past you hippies. One of the methods they use to get rid of pests is to introduce a high level of predators for each particular prey, which wreaks all sorts of havoc on the natural balance of predator/prey populations--causing who knows what kind of damage to the environment. Oops, did I just expose you moral-elitists for being frauds? Damndest thing. A number of people have pointed out that the amount of grain grown to feed animals for slaughter every year is greater than the amount of grain grown for humans. So I guess the amount of grain grown for human consumption suddenly becomes negligible and we can conveniently ignore the fact that animals are still ruthlessly murdered either way because of your diet, right? Not to mention that the majority of grain grown for livestock is tough as rocks, coarse, and so low-grade that it's only fit for animal consumption in the first place. Spare me the "you could feed 500 people with the grain used to feed one cow" line of shit; it's not the same grain. Then there are the people who jump on the bandwagon with "you could plant billions of potatoes on the land used for cows"--good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land? Also, many vegetarians don't know (or care to acknowledge) that in many parts of the United States they have "control hunts" in which hunting permits are passed out whenever there is a pest problem (the pest here is deer, elk and antelope) that threatens wheat, soy, vegetable and other crops; this happens several times per year. Then some of you throw out claims that "we are trying to limit the suffering." How about you limit MY suffering and shut the hell up about your stupid diet for a change; nobody cares. Even if the number of animals that die in combine deaths every year isn't in the millions, even if it's just one, are you suggesting that the life of one baby rabbit isn't worth saving? Are you placing a value on life? Enjoy your tofu, murderers. 1 time we held my freinds girl down who is a vegeterian and put a peice apork in her mouth and moved her mouth so she wold chew it and the tried to hold her breath till she swollowed o was she mad:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ou812 Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Originally posted by trewguy 1 time we held my freinds girl down who is a vegeterian and put a peice apork in her mouth and moved her mouth so she wold chew it and the tried to hold her breath till she swollowed o was she mad:mad: :laugh: that's incredibly fucked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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