blazynup Posted July 20 Report Share Posted July 20 I have been mixing for a while. When i go to match the beats i put on the head phones and in the head phones cut over to 1 song, get an idea of how fast the beats are going then cut to the other song and do the same(all in my headpones), then adjust the pitch to try and make the beats match. Before i mix though i listen to it in my head phones but the problem is the beats always come off each other and gets confusing on which record is spinning faster or slower to match the beats. Does this sound like a good way of doing it, does anyone have any little tips or tricks, even another method to help perfrect my mixes??I have heard some people say writing the BPM on each individual record is a good way because then u know exeactly how much to adjust the pitch, does anyone do this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianjay Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 either1. ask the CD-DJ's what they do.2. keep your day job3. sell your 12's and get a new hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangledx Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 Originally posted by christianjay either1. ask the CD-DJ's what they do.2. keep your day job3. sell your 12's and get a new hobby no one wants to help eachother out anymore....then everyone wonders why this board went to shit... assholes like this....sorry blazynup wish I could help...Im just a crappy "CD-DJ":rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianjay Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 Originally posted by mangledx no one wants to help eachother out anymore....then everyone wonders why this board went to shit... assholes like this....sorry blazynup wish I could help...Im just a crappy "CD-DJ":rolleyes: im not a dj , therefor i cant help, but only be a wiseass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangledx Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 then maybe you shouldnt answer posts you have no clue about...wiseass.....more like a DICKhence...why this board went to shit....more then this board can handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeup Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 Originally posted by mangledx no one wants to help eachother out anymore....then everyone wonders why this board went to shit... assholes like this....sorry blazynup wish I could help...Im just a crappy "CD-DJ":rolleyes: heres a tip practice practice practice ....dont worry about BPMs grow an ear and learn to tell the difference in pitch by ur own ear....this board has been shit for 2 yrs so who cares......as for all u cd djs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianjay Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 Originally posted by mangledx then maybe you shouldnt answer posts you have no clue about...wiseass.....more like a DICKhence...why this board went to shit....more then this board can handle i haven't been on the board that longbut the music forum by far is horriblebunch of people who know nothing about musicwith the exception of a handful of people.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudeboyyouth Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 I've been spinning for about 3 years or so (as a hobby), and I don't have any real equipment (just two tables and a decent mixer). It took me a long time to get good at beat-matching. It takes a while to get good at it. My limited experiences have taught me that you just have to keep practicing. Absent any real equipment, alot of it has to do with being good at adjusting the pitch control. When you're spinning a song, keep in mind that it's a song, not just a beat that you need to match another beat to. Listen to the songs alot and get used to knowing the upbeats and downbeats, when and how the beats change, and what parts of a song would be the best to bring another beat in to. Basically, mixing starts by learning how to mix by ear (as someone suggested earlier). By doing this you should be able to find good spots to bring your beats in and match to. Listen to the beats very carefully, and you'll notice that many house songs have basic elements, aside from how complex they seem. Spinning by ear is pretty hard in my opinion, because it's not just as simple as beat matching; you can beat-match with another song, but the mix still won't sound right. It takes a while to get the hang of. I've been fucking around with turntables for a little while, and I've only gotten the hang of beat matching not too long ago. Also, try not to play your records really fast. There seem to be alot of dj's who spin house music at a pitch that just fucks the entire song up. I don't know why this is. Maybe some of them just like the way it sounds, or maybe it's easier to match to. I really don't know, but I've always thought it sounded stupid. I mean, some songs are meant to be spun at a fast pace, but other songs just sound stupid when you don't let the bass hit as slow as it's supposed to. Sorry I can't offer more. Good luck, and keep it up.Oh, and take GOOD CARE OF YOUR VINYL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattreid Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE:hat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazynup Posted July 21 Author Report Share Posted July 21 Thanks guys aside from the assholes that just feel the need to reply but that just goes to show some people got a little more time on thier hands, but anyways thanks for the advice i was pretty sure there was no secret trick its i just dont see how when my friend comes over he gets those beats on like that but i guess i just need more practice, and you know theres no such thing as real skill when ur a CD-DJ . . . It will never happen to me!!!VINYL 4E:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsrox Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 #1 tip you must be able to tell where the first beat is in the loop.count 1,2,3,4 in your head along with the beat. once you find your start point cue the second record up to the first beat. as the first record thats playing thrugh the monitors hits the 1 beat drop the second record so that the 1's match up. If you do not do this you WILL TRAIN WRECK EVEN IF THE BPMS MATCH!!!Fuck BPMS they wont help you to learn to mix. I thought they could in the begining till my boy told me the deal. I had a bpm counter on my mixer that I had to cover in order to learn to mix. Labeling your records by bpm is a good idea for dj's who play out and allready know how to mix, like in a club when your rushing to put on the next track... hope this helps email me for clarification. to all you fucking smart ass punk kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattreid Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 Originally posted by djsrox #1 tip you must be able to tell where the first beat is in the loop.count 1,2,3,4 in your head along with the beat. once you find your start point cue the second record up to the first beat. as the first record thats playing thrugh the monitors hits the 1 beat drop the second record so that the 1's match up. If you do not do this you WILL TRAIN WRECK EVEN IF THE BPMS MATCH!!!Fuck BPMS they wont help you to learn to mix. I thought they could in the begining till my boy told me the deal. I had a bpm counter on my mixer that I had to cover in order to learn to mix. Labeling your records by bpm is a good idea for dj's who play out and allready know how to mix, like in a club when your rushing to put on the next track... hope this helps email me for clarification. to all you fucking smart ass punk kids dont write the bpm on the record. thats a joke. when you learn how to match a beat. you while also learn to be able to mix faster and be more creative. sometimes when i mix, i just through the track right in off the fly and just fix it while its mixing (slow it down, speed it up) it just takes time to learn to mix smoothly. just pratice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehype Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 send a PM to thepulse aka marshal fairbanks...i'm sure he can help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazynup Posted July 21 Author Report Share Posted July 21 Originally posted by djsrox #1 tip you must be able to tell where the first beat is in the loop.count 1,2,3,4 in your head along with the beat. once you find your start point cue the second record up to the first beat. as the first record thats playing thrugh the monitors hits the 1 beat drop the second record so that the 1's match up. If you do not do this you WILL TRAIN WRECK EVEN IF THE BPMS MATCH!!!Fuck BPMS they wont help you to learn to mix. I thought they could in the begining till my boy told me the deal. I had a bpm counter on my mixer that I had to cover in order to learn to mix. Labeling your records by bpm is a good idea for dj's who play out and allready know how to mix, like in a club when your rushing to put on the next track... hope this helps email me for clarification. to all you fucking smart ass punk kids thanks alot just i dont see how u know which is the 1st beat out of the loop. If i count 1,2,3,4 in my head of the song thats playing in order to mix it with the second record which i already would have cued at the beginning of the loop with the first beat how can u tell and make sure u dont end up letting the record go on the 3rd or 4th beat out of the loop?So what your saying mixing the beats will only come together when the loops are matched, so fisrt find the loops then move to the pitch control after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattreid Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 dont listen to that. first learn how to match beats and then everything else will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcasbah Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 maybe another way of saying all this, but in simpler form. cue the track you'll be mixing it right at the onset of a kick drum. since it's the kick drum that usually = 'the beat' that what you use to match beats. for starters try to use songs that start/end with just the kick drum. have the program (aka the track that's playing) in your monitor in your right ear, and put the cued song in your headphone in your left ear. now listen for the beats to synch, it'll sound weird, almost make you smile, when you find that the two songs are finally in synch. just let the program play, and keep restarting the cued song till the beats are as perfectly overlapping as you can get them. then slow down or speed up the cue'd track as necessary. also, when you're ready to mix in the cue'd track, start bringing up that channel with about a minute left on the track that's playing. that way the songs will start/end seamlessly to the crowd. this way, the songs are actually 'mixed'. and it wasn't like track A stopped and track B started. when you're really good, be it on vinyle or cd, the crowd shouldn't know that a new song is coming. once they notice the new song, you might be as far as 2 minutes into it. and why rip on cd dj's??? dj = disc jockey why didn't they name it tj for track jockey, or vj for vinyl jockey?i think track jockey would make it universal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mane Posted July 21 Report Share Posted July 21 I agree with DJmattreid I also have a tip on how to get startedtake 2 of the same tracks and try to match the beats together. that way you get a good idea of what you are trying to accomplish. Mane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest djdrip2002 Posted July 22 Report Share Posted July 22 Originally posted by mane I agree with DJmattreid I also have a tip on how to get startedtake 2 of the same tracks and try to match the beats together. that way you get a good idea of what you are trying to accomplish. Mane thats actually not too smart because 2 of the same songs are the same speed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpreet Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 I mix the same way as djsrox recommended. It works for me.As far as figuring which beat is running faster than the other, I tend to keep the song i'm cueing a little louder (in my headphones) than the one that's playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mane Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 Originally posted by djdrip2002 thats actually not too smart because 2 of the same songs are the same speed..... Actually I think it is a very good idea the whole point is to learn how to beat match therefore it would be obvious to not have the records at the same pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsteve8 Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 I learned how to beatmatch and do timing with Wu Tang - C.R.E.A.M. . . . found that rap's harder beats make it easier to pick up. I went back and forth, cutting track to track, moving places on the song until i could pick it up very quickly. . . spent a good amount of time listening to the songs i was gonna work with, to get an idea of the beat structure. In the beginning I wrote the bpm on the records. . .after a short amount of time i got the ear for it. I still sorted stuff in the crates by rough bpm, so i'd have an idea of the speeds of songs. Even now, i find myself going 1 2 3 4 with the songs i hear everyday at clubs.I dj'd for a few years in college, my roommate had a rig, I sold all my stuff . . . .I'm looking to get back into it, I miss it a lot . . . looking to buy an upstart setup myself, eventually will grow it of course. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbolboy Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Originally posted by mangledx no one wants to help eachother out anymore....then everyone wonders why this board went to shit... assholes like this....sorry blazynup wish I could help...Im just a crappy "CD-DJ":rolleyes: well put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest djdrip2002 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Originally posted by mane Actually I think it is a very good idea the whole point is to learn how to beat match therefore it would be obvious to not have the records at the same pitch. exactly but a copy of the same song is the same speed so insetead you can try practicing with something along the lines of 1 or 2 bpm faster or slower of the song playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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