igloo Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 What would Democrats have done?David Limbaugh (archive)July 23, 2003 | Print | Send Since national Democrats have literally no agenda on which to base their upcoming presidential and congressional campaigns, they continue to carp at President Bush. While it is important to defend Bush against these specious charges, it is also time to take the offensive.How would things be different today if Al Gore's henchmen had succeeded in hijacking the election? How will they be different if one of the nine Democratic candidates or Hillary unseats Bush in 2004? Well, it's impossible to be sure what they would have done and would do in the future, but we can make reasonable assumptions based on positions they have already taken. At every step, with a few brief, cosmetic exceptions, they've impeded, if not outright opposed, President Bush's efforts in the War on Terror. Based on their public statements we have a right to assume they very likely would have chosen the following courses of action and inaction (unless, of course, you prefer to believe they didn't mean what they said and were only criticizing Bush for the sake of scoring partisan politic points). They likely would have: -- approached Afghanistan and its Taliban and Al Qaeda terrorist camps with extreme trepidation, based on their stated fears that we were headed for a Vietnam-like quagmire. To be honest, I can't imagine that Al Gore or any of these other Democratic presidential aspirants would have acted decisively in Afghanistan. A few volleys of cruise missiles and a lot of lectern-thumping speeches, perhaps, but definitive action against Afghanistan truly is hard to imagine. -- conferred greater rights on enemy combatants in Guantanamo and elsewhere, and tied the hands of our law enforcement and intelligence agencies. We tend to overlook the extraordinary record of law enforcement and domestic security in thwarting further terrorist attacks on the mainland. The absence of attacks to this point speaks volumes, yet we hear nothing but criticism of our domestic security efforts. -- conferred on France, Germany and various international bodies veto power over our decision to attack Iraq. They undoubtedly would have continued with weapons inspections in perpetuity -- assuming they ever could have obtained Saddam's permission for inspectors to re-enter, keeping in mind that he didn't agree to do so until we got American troops into the theater poised to strike, which deployment they largely opposed. We may assume they would have allowed Saddam to continue to violate the U.N. resolutions with impunity. -- not taken significant action on the homeland security front or military action against Afghanistan or Iraq, based on their relentless criticism of President Bush's deficit spending. It is objectively provable that Bush inherited an economy in recession, that the economy suffered dramatic losses because of the September 11 terrorist attacks, that we've had to spend enormous sums rebuilding a military that Bill Clinton had overextended and depleted, and that the actions against Afghanistan and Iraq cost billions of dollars. Bush's tax cuts, discounting dynamic scoring, will have played but a fractional part, if any, in increasing the deficit. So either they should tell us what part of the national security spending they would have foregone, which further wasteful domestic spending programs they wouldn't have thrown more money at despite their promises to do so, or how they would have jump-started the sluggish economy they bestowed upon President Bush. Tax increases, perhaps? -- not taken military action against Iraq for the further reasons that they could not have predicted with certainty how long it would take and how much it would cost, nor guaranteed that our troops would be immune from terrorist attacks in Iraq following the initial phase of the war, nor that a suitable democratic government would emerge free of challenges and problems. This is based on their ridiculous handwringing against Donald Rumsfeld (and others) for his refusal to predict the "unknowable" and their daily harangues that our war efforts were poorly conceived based on the casualties and difficulties that persist despite our victory. I could go on and on, but the point is that Democrats need to be held accountable for their criticisms. It's time for them to go beyond the character attacks and answer the question of what, specifically, they would have done differently. As I've attempted to show here, we already know the answer to that question, and it's damning, which is why they won't volunteer it. In short, they simply cannot be trusted with our national security, which means it is far too dangerous to give them back the reins of power. As for 2004, "bring 'em on." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomenus Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 ALL extremstistshould put a shotgun up there asses..n pull the trigger,,,YES I m takin bout U republicans n bush n every other etremist .... good luck with that..DONT BE EXTREMEmake love not war....PEACE MIAMIenjoy...if only we all had a woman like this in our liveswe would NOT concern ourselves with these stupid matterstheyt would disapear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 Originally posted by lomenus ALL extremstistshould put a shotgun up there asses..n pull the trigger,,,YES I m takin bout U republicans n bush n every other etremist .... do u ALSO feel the same way about extreme Democrats?? btw, ur "solution" is pretty extreme in itself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramadas Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 do u ALSO feel the same way about extreme Democrats?? btw, ur "solution" is pretty extreme in itself... Aren't you a bit extreme, using the word extreme so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnice35 Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 Originally posted by igloo What would Democrats have done? They would probably be getting head from a fat interm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted July 23 Report Share Posted July 23 Originally posted by raver_mania Aren't you a bit extreme, using the word extreme so much! EXTREMELY.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris817 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Originally posted by dnice35 They would probably be getting head from a fat interm Good one, of all the BS lies our gov't has told us that will be the one everyone remembers.Like if Al Gore was president now we would all be reading the Koran??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seximofo2k Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 the usual extreme right conservative article bashing democrats. Sean Hannity asks the same questions to people on his show and when they go to answer the question he starts bashing them and never lets them finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Originally posted by seximofo2k Sean Hannity asks the same questions to people on his show and when they go to answer the question he starts bashing them and never lets them finish. yea...like the "Raging Cajun" ALWAYS lets people finish their answers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igloo Posted July 24 Author Report Share Posted July 24 Originally posted by chris817 Like if Al Gore was president now we would all be reading the Koran??? I guess you watched Bill Maher's show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris817 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Originally posted by igloo I guess you watched Bill Maher's show Sure did, Should of gave him credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seximofo2k Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 yea...like the "Raging Cajun" ALWAYS lets people finish their answers.... He's just as bad. I guess 2 wrongs make a right then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Originally posted by seximofo2k He's just as bad. I guess 2 wrongs make a right then ...but i loved him in "Old School" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seximofo2k Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 Originally posted by mrmatas2277 ...but i loved him in "Old School" That shit was hillarious when he came on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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