mursa Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 this thread is going nowhere ....................... people already have their brains programmed a certain way , and in my opinion no PRoof will ever be validated by them which opposes their beliefs . Alot of Sheep around thats for sure ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliptoniaaa Posted May 26 Author Report Share Posted May 26 i will say this about him.....he is getting over passionate, about things going on....hes letting alot of his emotion spill into his work......is it wrong ...no....but it does skew his point of view....but as i said he does love this country, and is very worried(passionate) at what he sees going on!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 There's sheep on both sides. Sheep who say Moore is the new Messiah, and there's the sheep who don't like him for bashing their way of life. Bowling for Columbine was just the worst form of Second Amendment bashing...but that is my opinion. However, I will say that Moore tends to film his works with an eye towards his point of view...more so than many other documentary filmmakers. I don't see this one being much different. While I'll wait to see it before I say "yeah, he's right" or "he's wrong..", I am expecting it to be slanted to his point of view.It's still gonna be the Armchair Generals vs the Armchair Philosophers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranzwhore Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 i will say this about him.....he is getting over passionate, about things going on....hes letting alot of his emotion spill into his work......is it wrong ...no....but it does skew his point of view....but as i said he does love this country, and is very worried(passionate) at what he sees going on!!!!!!!!!!!i thought "bowling for columbine" was a really good movie. & i look forward to seeing this new one. it's his movie & he can provide whatever angle / view he wants. it is up to u to decide what to think. stay brainwashed by ur gov't. if you'd like but don't blame his movie or directoral skills or lack of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest saleen351 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 his first two were great, not that i fully agree with them, but they were fun to watch. bowling for columbine was brillant.. but his bush bashing one will end his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 Alot of Sheep around thats for sure ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcodavalos Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 his first two were great, not that i fully agree with them, but they were fun to watch. bowling for columbine was brillant.. but his bush bashing one will end his career. This guy forms an opinion before he goes out to make the documentary. That's worse than my forming an opinion before I go to see it, because he slants his documentary to fit his vision. In so doing, it's no longer a documentary. ??? ... a political documentary starts with a hypothesis ... and takes as long to make til you are able to prove it. In the process .. other issues can be/need to be proven in order to build up a case.His passion needs to be a bit more "centered" to be wider digestable by the masses. The far left is as wrong as the far right in this country.Conclusion: Far more than convincing some ... it brings questioning to the whole war issue ... and in this context, the "No more Bush" portion of the country will inevitably grow. That is his main intention with this work.In an issue like this, there is no way to unanimously prove ... unless 'Deep Throat 2/s" love the Washington Post as much as the original did 30 years ago. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 His passion needs to be a bit more "centered" to be wider digestable by the masses. The far left is as wrong as the far right in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macboy Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 Hmmm....Marco, a documentary is supposed to be somewhat more objective. When you start choosing what you want to include in your story to prove your point and exclude important facts of a particular historical event, then it is no longer, in essence, a documentary. It is propaganda. Look, he's obviously a talented filmmaker, and there's no question I'll see this, but I can't help but go in with some skepticism based on what he's already done. What would really fuel the political fire here is if he tried to release it around Labor Day, when we're starting to get close to the elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranzwhore Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 but his bush bashing one will end his career.i seriously doubt that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliptoniaaa Posted May 26 Author Report Share Posted May 26 I'll see this, but I can't help but go in with some skepticism.thats how everything should be seen!!!!!!!!!!!!! with skepticism!!!!!!!!!! u must come to ur own conclusion!!!!!!!!! anything and everything we as a species do...should be evaluated with skepticism!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macboy Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 thats how everything should be seen!!!!!!!!!!!!! with skepticism!!!!!!!!!! u must come to ur own conclusion!!!!!!!!! anything and everything we as a species do...should be evaluated with skepticism!!!!!!!!!!...otherwise, we ARE sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranzwhore Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 ...otherwise, we ARE sheep. baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funketeer Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 ...otherwise, we ARE sheep. awwoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! I'm a wolf in sheep clothes...watch me now! awoooooooooooooo!!!! woof! woof! grrrrr!!! baaaaaaaaaa!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxgrooveericxx Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 I'll say this:I can't wait to see it! I will take the information from the movie and form my own opinion. It's funny how some are so quick to say "It's only a movie to bash Bush." Ok, maybe it is, but the thing is there are FACTS to at least backup what Moore is saying.Michael Moore is the director, and he can choose to direct the movie, slant, etc. whichever way he wants because he can do it! Thus being the director. But he provides facts with his statements and point of view.Let's say John Kerry wins the presidential election in November. A few years from then, the "Michael Moore" for the Reuplicans makes a documentry about Kerry dipicting what he has done wrong in his presidency. There will always be people who dislike something about something/somone. We will always go back and forth over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fliptoniaaa Posted May 26 Author Report Share Posted May 26 lets agree on this....the human race as a species is a giant failure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxgrooveericxx Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 lets agree on this....the human race as a species is a giant failure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'll get back to you on that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmatas2277 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 Let's say John Kerry wins the presidential election in November. A few years from then, the "Michael Moore" for the Reuplicans makes a documentry about Kerry dipicting what he has done wrong in his presidency.let me know..b/c i wont watch that either.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcodavalos Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 Weinsteins buy 'Fahrenheit' film Miramax founders have acquired rights to distribute Michael Moore's controversial movie from Disney.http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/28/news/fortune500/moore_film.reut/index.htm?cnn=yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 lets agree on this....the human race as a species is a giant failure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Blah blah blah. If it is a failure, then go out and do something about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobe2003 Posted May 28 Report Share Posted May 28 LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Miramax film studio founders Harvey and Bob Weinstein have personally acquired rights to Michael Moore (news)'s documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" from Walt Disney Co., after Disney, which owns Miramax, declined to distribute it, Disney said on Friday. Miramax had funded the film but Disney said it was too politically charged for the family-friendly company. After more than a week of talks, the Weinsteins have bought rights to the film, estimated to have cost about $6 million, and will arrange for its theatrical and home video distribution. The film won the Palme d'Or, the highest award of the Cannes film festival (news - web sites) this month, but plans for a U.S. theatrical release had been held up while Disney and the Weinstein's negotiated. Moore, who criticizes President Bush and the war on Iraq in the film, said on May 5 that Disney had refused to distribute the picture. Disney said that it had made its decision a year earlier and accused Moore of conducting a publicity stunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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