igloo Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 I just find it funny how in 96 all republicans basically dismissed him, as someone who was caught with a hooker cheating on his wife. (something bush's brother knows a thing or 2 about)Now they welcome him with open arms b/c he is on their side. If he was stomping for Kerry you would dismiss it as left wing propagandaThat is my point, i never compared them as political equals. They are both out to make money. Moore with 911 morris with his books blasting the clintons.So he's not a flip flopper? if that not a flip flop i don't know what is?Nice try with this irrelevant ramble...Bottom line...you defended Michael Moore by bringing up Dick Morris, and referenced the article that I posted by Dick Morris...which was objective expert political analysis with polling data that was very insightful, interesting, and informative (irrespective of which party you support).....Is Dick Morris out to make money....yes, who is not?....Has Dick Morris changed sides who he now supports ---yes (funny how when Dems defect, the character assassination follows---but when GOP'ers defect, they "saw the light"------love how the media play that out...i.e Zell Miller).And BTW--your application of "flip-flopper" to Dick Morris is a little to loose and broad. and inaccurate..... a more correct way of applying the term flip-flopper" is to your boy Kerry, who changes his stance depending on the day and who he talks to....Lastly--Moore and Morris do not belong in the same sentece together. You were wrong, move on, end of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted September 3 Author Report Share Posted September 3 Is Dick Morris out to make money....yes, who is not?....Has Dick Morris changed sides who he now supports ---yes (funny how when Dems defect, the character assassination follows---but when GOP'ers defect, they "saw the light"------love how the media play that out...i.e Zell Miller).and the GOP does the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk4 Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 yeah moore and morris should not be compared. One has political experience and an agenda, one has really no political experience and an agenda. What i was saying is that he is acting as an editorial writer not a reporter. HE is using the facts he finds to back up his already formed opinion. Not reporting facts like a reporter would do. So you have to take it for what it is worth, his opinion piece. But it is the same as some of the stuff you would get from worlddailynet and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherway83 Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Its funny though - many of the republicans I know who supported bush whole-heartedly in the beginning are completely dis-illusioned now. exactly...i've also met a number of Republicans who've said that this time around they're gonna make an exception and vote for Kerry, even tho he's not perfect himself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igloo Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 yeah moore and morris should not be compared. One has political experience and an agenda, one has really no political experience and an agenda. What i was saying is that he is acting as an editorial writer not a reporter. HE is using the facts he finds to back up his already formed opinion. Not reporting facts like a reporter would do. So you have to take it for what it is worth, his opinion piece. But it is the same as some of the stuff you would get from worlddailynet and such.The Morris article I posted was an on-point objective analysis:DEMS' DEADLY DIVIDE BY DICK MORRIS --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Email Archives Print Reprint September 2, 2004 -- LAST night, Dick Che ney said that "Amer ica sees two John Kerry's" and that Kerry's "liveliest disagreement" is with himself. But that's not Kerry's biggest problem. His real conundrum is that his voters disagree with one another on almost every major foreign-policy and terrorism issue. So, no matter what Kerry says, he will alienate a goodly portion of his voters. This handicap is likely to loom larger and larger as the election moves into its debating phase. But, for now, the Republicans are doing a good job of throwing curveballs that force Kerry to choose between his voting blocks — antagonizing some and invigorating others, bleeding support the whole way. In an incredibly striking contrast, Bush voters are united on virtually all the questions that divide the Kerry vote. So Bush can advance his agenda with impunity while taking aim at Kerry voters who are antagonized by their candidate whenever he has to choose a position. From the excellent polling and brilliant analysis of Scott Rasmussen, who takes daily tracking polls, comes evidence of Democratic division and Republican unity. One example: Rasmussen asked if Iraq was a part of the War on Terror or a distraction from it. Republicans overwhelmingly said it was integral — by 79-14. But Democrats were divided. Half said it is a distraction — but 36 percent felt it was a key part of the war effort. So what is Kerry to say? Either way, he loses votes. And if he waffles, he strengthens his reputation for flip-flopping. Should we give a priority to finishing the mission in Iraq or to bringing the troops home? Republicans say "stay the course," 71-23. Democrats divide: 54 percent say "come home"; 37 percent want us to finish the mission. Who is winning the War on Terror? Republicans say we are, 77-10. Democrats divide almost equally, with 33 percent saying America is winning and 42 percent saying the terrorists are gaining the upper hand. So how is Kerry to characterize the war? Say it's a success — and alienate 42 percent of his vote — or call it a failure — and drive away 33 percent? Republicans are sure, by 67-12, that if we'd left Saddam in power, life in America would be more dangerous. Democrats again divide, with 20 percent saying life is safer because he is out, and 34 percent saying it's not. Should the United States follow the lead of its allies more than we do now? Republicans say "No," 72-5; 44 percent of the Democrats say "Yes," and 19 percent say "No." So, on each of these issues, whenever Kerry opens his mouth, he loses. The Republicans are skillfully exploiting this weakness in their opponent. At the outset of the campaign, they are making much of Kerry's inconsistent positions on issues and undermining his credibility by attacking his war record. At the convention, the GOP is hammering home these issues to set them up for use down the road. Then, in the debates, Bush will close in for the kill, making Kerry fish or cut bait on these pivotal questions, always being prepared to say, "There you go again" if he waffles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igloo Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 exactly...i've also met a number of Republicans who've said that this time around they're gonna make an exception and vote for Kerry, even tho he's not perfect himself...Sure you did...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk4 Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 Who is winning the War on Terror? Republicans say we are, 77-10. Democrats divide almost equally, with 33 percent saying America is winning and 42 percent saying the terrorists are gaining the upper hand. yeah I get it the dems are divided and devided is not good in an election.but i am no math major but 33% winning42% losing______79%What the hell is up with the other 21% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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