georgym Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 L'homme de la nature et de la verite"The man of nature and of truth"Meaning that man in a state of nature is honest and direct and that he is corrupted by civilization.Thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agrkdj Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 too early to think.........ask me later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 L'homme de la nature et de la verite"The man of nature and of truth"Meaning that man in a state of nature is honest and direct and that he is corrupted by civilization.Thoughts but in nature, outside of civilization there are no laws or regulations or rules, or morales, so there is nothing to base corruption on...reminds me of lord of the flies, once the kids were outside of civilization they were worse off than when they were in... they resorted to animalistic and barbaric tendencies found it harder and harder as time went on to seperate right from wrong and etc... so how honest were those kids~!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funks0ul Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 i think the quote lacks... the man of nature and of truth... or maybe it just comes off as the simple man... blah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamme Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 but in nature, outside of civilization there are no laws or regulations or rules, or morales, so there is nothing to base corruption on...reminds me of lord of the flies, once the kids were outside of civilization they were worse off than when they were in... they resorted to animalistic and barbaric tendencies found it harder and harder as time went on to seperate right from wrong and etc... so how honest were those kids~!? so u think our true nature comes out in civilization?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 exactly... hunter gatherer thief etc.. strip away all the things in society that camouflage us and youll see who ppl really are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsamurai Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 hmm dunno about that, i think everyone is shaped by everything and everyone around them and in constant change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 hmm dunno about that, i think everyone is shaped by everything and everyone around them and in constant changeby the statement above it seems like you agree... being in nature and surrounded by animals, they would adapt, and take on animalistic characteristics no~!? and as far as constant change goes, Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose... is a french saying that means the more things change the more they stay the same... your true character inside never changes imo but your surroundings and your behaviour might but who you are never will... some ppl are natural salesman by birth, some ppl are naturally aggressive by birth, some ppl are whatever, but they dont realise it until put in the right environment and it all comes out... eh wtf do i know i never study sociology anthropology or any *.logy for that matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funeralhome Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 L'homme de la nature et de la verite"The man of nature and of truth"Meaning that man in a state of nature is honest and direct and that he is corrupted by civilization.Thoughts is that your interpretation of the quote or is that what he really meant by that?when i studied rousseau, what he meant by "nature" was not a caveman like existence, but coming to grips with the self through discovering beauty in nature..such as sitting by a lake and questioning your thoughts.. or sleeping in a forest to calm the mind...he wrote in the romanticsm period which was the artists of the times response to shit that was going on..the french rev., american, rev. it was also a response to the enlightenment period that dealt with logic and reason..his quote reflects the desire to return to "nature", rediscvering the self through absorption within the "real"..moon, rainbow, water etc. i read about all this stuff two weeks ago so it's still fresh in my mind.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funeralhome Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 i think wordworth or keats also wrote "truth beauty, beauty truth.." something like that, i can't remember at the moment.. which was written at the same time rousseau wrote that quote..i suppose you could also derive the same meaning from both.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 leme add some ing'ance ta dis threadfuck u been @ Kat?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgmodel Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 is that your interpretation of the quote or is that what he really meant by that?when i studied rousseau, what he meant by "nature" was not a caveman like existence, but coming to grips with the self through discovering beauty in nature..such as sitting by a lake and questioning your thoughts.. or sleeping in a forest to calm the mind...he wrote in the romanticsm period which was the artists of the times response to shit that was going on..the french rev., american, rev. it was also a response to the enlightenment period that dealt with logic and reason..his quote reflects the desire to return to "nature", rediscvering the self through absorption within the "real"..moon, rainbow, water etc. i read about all this stuff two weeks ago so it's still fresh in my mind.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funeralhome Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 ha thanks. i'm a secondary english education major... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funeralhome Posted September 22 Report Share Posted September 22 leme add some ing'ance ta dis threadfuck u been @ Kat??i'm still here!..i have a new aol name though.. it's ksweepstakes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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