Secret EU plot to kill Nato

[siceone]

Secret EU plot to kill Nato

By NIC CECIL

Political Correspondent

A SECRET EU plot to wreck Nato and torpedo the UK’s influence in Europe was sensationally laid bare by Spain’s Prime Minister yesterday.

He vowed his country would stand shoulder to shoulder with fellow Iraq war weasels France and Germany — to dictate a common EU defence policy that would leave Britain sidelined.

Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero brazenly declared the ultimate aim was to challenge America.

He declared: “Europe must believe that it can be in 20 years the most important world power. We want to arrange the European future at the side of France and Germany. Spain sees itself with France and Germany as never before.â€

His comments were a huge blow to Tony Blair, who has fought to make the UK, Germany and France the key power-trio in Europe.

Zapatero was quizzed by German magazine Der Spiegel about the EU’s continuing need for US troops to deal with crises in the Balkans under the Nato umbrella.

He said: “Naturally it will still last some time, until we develop a closed defence policy. That can happen only after the agreement on a common foreign policy. The EU constitution is an important step in this direction.

“In 15 to 20 years we will surely have a foreign service for the EU.â€

Socialist Zapatero — slammed for surrendering to terrorist demands when he withdrew Spanish troops from Iraq — said the constitution was a “milestone†on the road to a European military and economic superpower.

Shadow Foreign Secretary Michael Ancram stormed: “This is yet another example of the real EU agenda of the EU constitution. It makes a nonsense of Tony Blair’s claims to have achieved an EU constitution which preserves national sovereignty.â€

Neil O’Brien, of anti-EU constitution group Vote No, said: “Tony Blair has been suckered into signing an EU constitution which would make it hard for Britain to work with the US.â€

Yesterday Zapatero and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder agreed to boost defence co-operation over tanks, torpedoes and missiles.

The Spanish PM insisted in his interview that he wanted closer relations with the US — as long as there was an end to the war in Iraq and a greater role for the UN.

But President George Bush showed what he thought of him when Zapatero phoned to congratulate him on his election victory. Mr Bush refused to come on the line.

[tres-b]

Secret EU plot to kill Nato

By NIC CECIL

Political Correspondent

A SECRET EU plot to wreck Nato and torpedo the UK’s influence in Europe was sensationally laid bare by Spain’s Prime Minister yesterday.

He vowed his country would stand shoulder to shoulder with fellow Iraq war weasels France and Germany — to dictate a common EU defence policy that would leave Britain sidelined.

Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero brazenly declared the ultimate aim was to challenge America.

He declared: “Europe must believe that it can be in 20 years the most important world power. We want to arrange the European future at the side of France and Germany. Spain sees itself with France and Germany as never before.â€

His comments were a huge blow to Tony Blair, who has fought to make the UK, Germany and France the key power-trio in Europe.

Zapatero was quizzed by German magazine Der Spiegel about the EU’s continuing need for US troops to deal with crises in the Balkans under the Nato umbrella.

He said: “Naturally it will still last some time, until we develop a closed defence policy. That can happen only after the agreement on a common foreign policy. The EU constitution is an important step in this direction.

“In 15 to 20 years we will surely have a foreign service for the EU.â€

Socialist Zapatero — slammed for surrendering to terrorist demands when he withdrew Spanish troops from Iraq — said the constitution was a “milestone†on the road to a European military and economic superpower.

Shadow Foreign Secretary Michael Ancram stormed: “This is yet another example of the real EU agenda of the EU constitution. It makes a nonsense of Tony Blair’s claims to have achieved an EU constitution which preserves national sovereignty.â€

Neil O’Brien, of anti-EU constitution group Vote No, said: “Tony Blair has been suckered into signing an EU constitution which would make it hard for Britain to work with the US.â€

Yesterday Zapatero and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder agreed to boost defence co-operation over tanks, torpedoes and missiles.

The Spanish PM insisted in his interview that he wanted closer relations with the US — as long as there was an end to the war in Iraq and a greater role for the UN.

But President George Bush showed what he thought of him when Zapatero phoned to congratulate him on his election victory. Mr Bush refused to come on the line.

Spain...a world power...now thats some funny shit.

I want to play QB in the NFL too but that doesnt mean its going to happen.

Spain hahahahahahahahahahahah

Any country who bows to the will of terrorists during elections will NEVER be a power. At least I can say I have the balls to play QB in the NFL, just not the skills. Spain lacks the skills and the sack.

[jtk4]

You are wrong. It is not spain alone it is the Eu and their 25 countries

the population of the EU is 450 million citizens, making it larger (in population) and richer (in GDP) than the United States-not to mention that the EU has more trade than the United States and more votes on the UN Security Council and all other international organizations.

[siceone]

well I guess the Un would be pretty void after this huh

they don't come CLOSE to us militarily and this will take at leas 25 years to get off the ground. Maybe they are goiing to start dealing with thier huge muslim problem

[igloo]

But President George Bush showed what he thought of him when Zapatero phoned to congratulate him on his election victory. Mr Bush refused to come on the line.

Outstanding!!!

[karch]

Outstanding!!!

More like being immature. If what happened is true, Bush needs to grow up.

[igloo]

More like being immature. If what happened is true, Bush needs to grow up.

Are you kidding me???????????????? I guess running on a platform of anti-Americanism and Bush is Hitler and all the other insults that some of these European leaders hurled at Bush is OK or mature?

Dude, wake the fuck up already , would you.......Under the circumstances, especially Spain's new leader, Bush's action was not only mature, but EXACTLY what should have been done.......

Pull your Bush hate blinders off and get some perspective

[tres-b]

More like being immature. If what happened is true, Bush needs to grow up.

If someone called you every name in the book and ran on a platform that preached hate about you and your nation, would you come to the phone?

Hell no you wouldnt.

[amyscottsdale]

Secret EU plot to kill Nato

By NIC CECIL

Political Correspondent

A SECRET EU plot to wreck Nato and torpedo the UK’s influence in Europe was sensationally laid bare by Spain’s Prime Minister yesterday.

He vowed his country would stand shoulder to shoulder with fellow Iraq war weasels France and Germany — to dictate a common EU defence policy that would leave Britain sidelined.

Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero brazenly declared the ultimate aim was to challenge America.

He declared: “Europe must believe that it can be in 20 years the most important world power. We want to arrange the European future at the side of France and Germany. Spain sees itself with France and Germany as never before.â€

His comments were a huge blow to Tony Blair, who has fought to make the UK, Germany and France the key power-trio in Europe.

Zapatero was quizzed by German magazine Der Spiegel about the EU’s continuing need for US troops to deal with crises in the Balkans under the Nato umbrella.

He said: “Naturally it will still last some time, until we develop a closed defence policy. That can happen only after the agreement on a common foreign policy. The EU constitution is an important step in this direction.

“In 15 to 20 years we will surely have a foreign service for the EU.â€

Socialist Zapatero — slammed for surrendering to terrorist demands when he withdrew Spanish troops from Iraq — said the constitution was a “milestone†on the road to a European military and economic superpower.

Shadow Foreign Secretary Michael Ancram stormed: “This is yet another example of the real EU agenda of the EU constitution. It makes a nonsense of Tony Blair’s claims to have achieved an EU constitution which preserves national sovereignty.â€

Neil O’Brien, of anti-EU constitution group Vote No, said: “Tony Blair has been suckered into signing an EU constitution which would make it hard for Britain to work with the US.â€

Yesterday Zapatero and German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder agreed to boost defence co-operation over tanks, torpedoes and missiles.

The Spanish PM insisted in his interview that he wanted closer relations with the US — as long as there was an end to the war in Iraq and a greater role for the UN.

But President George Bush showed what he thought of him when Zapatero phoned to congratulate him on his election victory. Mr Bush refused to come on the line.

Good, with so called allies like France, who needs Nato anymore. America can just save the money we spend upgrading their puny armies and instead spend it on defending our own interests.

[mursa]

..The US is clearly intimidated by europes rapid economic growth .

[sobeton]

Zapatero has more pressing issues then Bush obviously. strengthening european security and defense policy, lowering Spain’s unemployment rate, etc where actually the among the things he ran on. it's futile to try and mend a relationship; which quite frankly was unsupported to begin with.

[tres-b]

..The US is clearly intimidated by europes rapid economic growth .

That is the funniest thing you have ever posted. Really.

[mursa]

That is the funniest thing you have ever posted. Really.

Then if the truth is funny to you , laugh away . Really .

[tres-b]

Then if the truth is funny to you , laugh away . Really .

You're killin me..really.

[siceone]

Do you even look at any numbers? euroupe has 1% growth in GDP and has double digit un employment and you are talking about growth??? are you crazy ?

[jtk4]

the EU has a bigger GDP then the US.

[bigpoppanils]

Do you even look at any numbers? euroupe has 1% growth in GDP and has double digit un employment and you are talking about growth??? are you crazy ?

what year is the 1% figure from?

keep in mind that the 1% may not include the recent eastern european additions (it probably doesnt)

[tres-b]

Do you even look at any numbers? euroupe has 1% growth in GDP and has double digit un employment and you are talking about growth??? are you crazy ?

Facts mean nothing when there is a chance to take a shot at the US.

[jtk4]

they also do not have to spend huge amounts of money on military because we do. fucking leetches

[jtk4]

if they are so economicaly behind why is the euro killing the dollar?

The trade deficit narrowed unexpectedly in September, the government said. But, rather counter-intuitively, the dollar hit a new low against the euro. The euro briefly rose above the important $1.30 level

[bigpoppanils]

they also do not have to spend huge amounts of money on military because we do. fucking leetches

most European nations, despite their national health systems, spend less than the US does on healthcare (as a % of gdp) as well.

[jtk4]

wht is funny remember in the latre 80's early 90's when japan was buying al kinds of businesses in the us and people got all fucking pissed off.

well the eu owns all kinds of "us" companies. like dunkin donuts, holiday inn, aamco, miller beer, crysler, verison, lucky strike,slim fast,ect.

they also heve rules in eurpoe where it is against the law to lay anyone off so when the complany does bad they only lay off people over here.

[amyscottsdale]

if they are so economicaly behind why is the euro killing the dollar?

The trade deficit narrowed unexpectedly in September, the government said. But, rather counter-intuitively, the dollar hit a new low against the euro. The euro briefly rose above the important $1.30 level

Who said they are economically behind. I just wrote a policy paper at work on this. Germany is becoming the new economic engine of Europe and is going to pull other European countries along with it.

[jtk4]

I am talking Eu as a whole. They could become a superpwoer on the lines of the US. The problem we could have is if goods get based on the euro and not the good ole american buck.(oil steel ect) Our money would become peso-ish

[bigpoppanils]

wht is funny remember in the latre 80's early 90's when japan was buying al kinds of businesses in the us and people got all fucking pissed off.

well the eu owns all kinds of "us" companies. like dunkin donuts, holiday inn, aamco, miller beer, crysler, verison, lucky strike,slim fast,ect.

they also heve rules in eurpoe where it is against the law to lay anyone off so when the complany does bad they only lay off people over here.

Verizon is not owned by Europeans.

Vodafone owns 49% of Verizon Wireless...not Verizon itself.

T-Mobile, on the other hand, is owned by Deutsche Telekom.

Citizens Financial Group is owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland.

btw: Europeans are making acquisitions in Japan as well. Nissan is now controlled by Renault.