clubbingirl Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 I thought the idea was excellent, especially in the conceptual sketches. The only problem with a thing like this is its not really stunning with it's current incarnation. I saw them up close yesterday and it is pretty cool, but its supposed to have some kind of dramatic effect, something I believe they missed the mark on. The other exhibits in the past from these artists have been pretty impressive, this one, IMO, fell short of the mark.Christo and Jeanne-Claude's artwork are historically known to be controversial and hold a dramatic effect. They usually combine huge industrial artwork w/political controversy. The Central Park idea was denied by the state of NY 25 years ago. Gov. Pataki & the Claude's are friends, and so I guess "the Gates" lost their "dramatic" effect b/c there was no controversial context behind it all. Oh annnnnnnnnnd "The Gates" is the first truly citywide event since September 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smgarret Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Christo and Jeanne-Claude's artwork are historically known to be controversial and hold a dramatic effect. They usually combine huge industrial artwork w/political controversy. The Central Park idea was denied by the state of NY 25 years ago. Gov. Pataki & the Claude's are friends, and so I guess "the Gates" lost their "dramatic" effect b/c there was no controversial context behind it all. Oh annnnnnnnnnd "The Gates" is the first truly citywide event since September 11th.Small correction, Christo and Jeanne-Claude are friends with Bloomberg (could also be friends with Pitaki but not 100% sure), as he's the one who approved the project without any political controversy (according to 60 minutes last night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubbingirl Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Small correction, Christo and Jeanne-Claude are friends with Bloomberg (could also be friends with Pitaki but not 100% sure), as he's the one who approved the project without any political controversy (according to 60 minutes last night).you maybe right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepspell Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 they also said something about that the only reason they let them do this is because the olympic committee is in town this week fuckin politics & secret agendas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djbosse Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 I'll be checking this out tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funeralhome Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 i think the whole idea is boring and stupid and i don't think it's art at all.. and i'm an artist..these people are cashing in with their high priced merchandise that's even uglier than that orange laundry hanging out to dry.i'm not into contemp art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coogs78 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 Saw it on tuesday. IMO it is beautiful. and very amazing when u look at it all.U can not like it but u still have to appreciate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowina Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted February 17 Author Report Share Posted February 17 i think the whole idea is boring and stupid and i don't think it's art at all.. and i'm an artist..these people are cashing in with their high priced merchandise that's even uglier than that orange laundry hanging out to dry.i'm not into contemp art. thats like the worst thing ive ever heard. i don't think its art and im an artist??? wtf is that? any true artist would know that art is in the eye of the beholder and to say something is not art because you have a negative opinion about it is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funeralhome Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 you're right. beauty and or art lie in the eye of the beholder...i didn't realize that my statement might get taken out of contextwhat i meant to say was that anyone who is trained in art or art history might not find anything moving in the gates in comparison to greater artists' work. i've read several critiques and spoken to some people (who probably don't make up the vast majority who are falling for another cash in) and from their view: trained creaters of whatever medium... don't "see" it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimk29 Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I've never heard of it. What is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutekimee Posted February 17 Report Share Posted February 17 I've never heard of it. What is it?Dunno if you saw this already:http://www.christojeanneclaude.net/tg.html#preparatoryArtDon't forget you can view this from the rooftop of the MET Btw, does anyone know how the rollerbladin is in the park right now? Are there lots of people walkin all over? Is there still ice/snow on the sidewalks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbull Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 me and my g/f went to see this today and well im sorry but . It made the park look terrible my home curtains look better. And i really didnt see the purpose of it. Only a matter of time till someone graffitis over some of the plain ol cloths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 you're right. beauty and or art lie in the eye of the beholder...i didn't realize that my statement might get taken out of contextwhat i meant to say was that anyone who is trained in art or art history might not find anything moving in the gates in comparison to greater artists' work. i've read several critiques and spoken to some people (who probably don't make up the vast majority who are falling for another cash in) and from their view: trained creaters of whatever medium... don't "see" it either.i appreciate you response, its clearer to me what you meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimk29 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Dunno if you saw this already:http://www.christojeanneclaude.net/tg.html#preparatoryArtDon't forget you can view this from the rooftop of the MET Btw, does anyone know how the rollerbladin is in the park right now? Are there lots of people walkin all over? Is there still ice/snow on the sidewalks?I was kidding, I don't think it's possible to live anywhere near here and not know what that is... they don't shut the fuck up about it. The Gates this, the Gates that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutekimee Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 I was kidding, I don't think it's possible to live anywhere near here and not know what that is... they don't shut the fuck up about it. The Gates this, the Gates that...Oh...lol... didn't sense the sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimk29 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Oh...lol... didn't sense the sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepspell Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 going again this weekend....take my two puppies out there to check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 going again this weekend....take my two puppies out there to check it out sounds like a good way to meet women... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kutekimee Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 going again this weekend....take my two puppies out there to check it out Can I use them to pull me along while I'm rollerbladin? hehe...Mush! Mush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepspell Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 sounds like a good way to meet women...yea it actually was if i was single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepspell Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Can I use them to pull me along while I'm rollerbladin? hehe...Mush! Mush! there a lil too small to pull anything around...poor things would have a heart attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerx1225 Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 I live a blockk from the park and I am in it every day with my Dobie and I have a Master's degree ini Architecture. SO with that said:this type of stuff is always fun and colorful but frankly it looks like a freshman architecture project and I liked it better without the banners because there was this tension between the arches which implied an invisible tunnel one is walking thru with clear views all around.The scale of the thing is awkward because the banners come too low and at like 10 feet head clearance it is a little oppressive. From a distance, nice, but lacks human scale sensitivity with the height of the banners over one's head.also $21 million for this is completely fucking retarded. anyway, very French, the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argdiesel Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 i'm going to put orange sheets around my house.. and collect money from people lol.. nah really i have not seen these yet so i;m not gonna judge it. sounds intresting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsamurai Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 went yesterday, it's alright up close, not that big of a deal at all.I think it's better appreciated from a distance, when I looked over the park and from higher ground, I dug the snake like shape it took on through the park. Must be incredible to view overhead in a helicopter.The artists say the prime time to view it are sunrise, sunset and there's a full moon on the 24th.The history behind this project is kinda funny and cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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