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October 7, 2004

Cindy Sheehan Is Working To Bring Our Troops Home: "Mr. President. You have daughters. How would you feel if one of them was killed?"

A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW

Casey Sheehan re-enlisted with the Army in August of 2003, knowing that his unit would eventually be deployed in Iraq. Casey, a Humvee mechanic with the 1st Calvary, was killed in Sadr City on April 4th of this year. He was only 24 years old. He is and forever will remain an American hero.

Casey’s mom, Cindy Sheehan, is a hero too. Angered that her son was sent to fight and die in an unjust war for reasons that have proven to be lies, Cindy is speaking out about the Iraq invasion. Cindy has joined other moms and families who have lost loved ones in the conflict to tell Americans about the true costs of the war. Their group, Real Voices (http://realvoices.org/rv/index.html), is running television ads featuring the voices of Americans like Cindy speaking directly to President Bush about the impact of his failed policies and lies.

We are honored to bring you our interview with Cindy Sheehan about her son Casey and why she decided to speak out about the Iraq war.

* * *

BuzzFlash: Your son Casey died April 4 in Iraq. Whom do you hold responsible for your loss?

Cindy Sheehan: George W. Bush.

BuzzFlash: Why?

Cindy Sheehan: I think he rushed into this war -–this invasion –- without having proper intelligence. And the reasons he went are so clearly wrong -–from his false claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction to there being no connection between Iraq and Saddam and Osama bin Laden. He diverted attention and troops and resources from Afghanistan and Al Qaeda to Iraq.

I don’t think Iraq has anything to do with the war on terror, except now terrorists are crossing the borders to go and kill innocent Iraqis and our troops. So he went almost unilaterally, with very little international support, to invade a country. They didn’t have a plan for the peace or for the occupation of Iraq.

My son was killed by Shiite insurgents. I believe George Bush created the insurgency by his failed policies and that’s why my son was killed.

BuzzFlash: Tell us a little bit about Casey. What kind of a young man was he? I know he was only 24 years old when he died.

Cindy Sheehan: He was an amazing person. He has been an altar server for 10 years. He finally quit when he graduated from high school and asked me, "You know, Mom, can I quit altar serving? Can I be an usher or something now at Mass?"I was the coordinator of our youth Mass at our parish. And he was an Eagle Scout. He was a Eucharistic Minister, and he had trained to be a Eucharistic Minister in the field when they went to Iraq, to help the priest. But he was only there for two weeks before he was killed on Palm Sunday. He never missed Mass.

He had joined the Army because they promised him he could finish his college degree. He had already been going to college for three years before he joined the Army. My husband and I just went to Ft. Hood a couple weeks ago because the Catholic chapel he always went to was starting a new Knights of Columbus Council, and they decided to name it after Casey. It’s the Specialist Casey Austin Sheehan Knights of Columbus Council because they say that his love for his God, his church, his country and his family embodied what they want to stand for.

He was amazing. He was just the most calm and peaceful and gentle person that anybody would ever know. He was so quiet, but he had such an impact on everybody’s lives. And he was so brave. He saved American lives, but our question is, what are any of them doing there?

BuzzFlash: Casey, as I understand it, technically did not have to go to Iraq since he was a field mechanic. Is that correct?

Cindy Sheehan: He was a Humvee mechanic. He re-enlisted in August of 2003 because he didn’t want his buddies to do the job by themselves. It’s all about what they’re doing now -- our soldiers are trying to keep themselves alive and trying to keep each other alive at this point right now.

BuzzFlash: When did Casey receive news that his unit was being sent to Iraq?

Cindy Sheehan: I think it was probably around last October, 2003, because they went to the National Training Center (NTC) at Ft. Irwin in the California desert in November. So we knew before he went to Ft. Irwin that they were going to be deployed sometime in March. Casey knew the First Cavalry was going to end up going to Iraq when he re-enlisted.

BuzzFlash: Did you have any correspondence with Casey while he was in Iraq before he was killed? Did he say or did you hear about what the situation was like on the ground?

Cindy Sheehan: He called me one time from Kuwait. They still hadn’t gone to Iraq. And he never complained. He said that it was hot and he was really busy because he had to get their vehicles ready to go on the convoy from Kuwait to Baghdad. He was on his way to Mass, and we talked about when he stopped in Ireland to refuel. We’re Irish, so he found an airport employee that was telling him about the history of our name, the Sheehan name.

He started writing us a letter on March 31st, because we didn’t know where we could send him mail or presents or supplies or anything yet. They didn’t tell them until they got to Saudi City where we could send them things. But he started writing us letters. And he said the convoy from Kuwait to Baghdad was real peaceful, and it looked like it was going to be an easy year of deployment. He wrote that on March 31st, and he was killed April 4th.

We never got the letter. It was in his things that we got from Baghdad. He didn’t even finish it.

BuzzFlash: President Bush told you, Casey, and every American, that we needed to invade Iraq to remove weapons of mass destruction -- an assertion that, as you said, has proven to be a lie -- and to fight terrorism, which is also untrue. When Casey left to go to Iraq, did the two of you talk about why you both felt that the United States was in Iraq, and what the United States was fighting for?

Cindy Sheehan: We didn’t understand why the United States was there. We never thought that Iraq was an imminent threat to the United States. But Casey told me, "Mom, this is what we trained for. I’m ready. It’s my job. Because the sooner I get there, the sooner I’ll come home."And he came home three weeks later in a flag-draped coffin.

BuzzFlash: Right now you, along with many other families who have lost loved ones in Iraq, are speaking out in various ways, part of which is a television ad criticizing Bush’s decision to mislead our country into a war. What made you decide to speak out, knowing the toll that it would take on you?

Cindy Sheehan: I have to. I can’t bring my son back. I can’t go back to April 3rd and bring Casey home. I can’t stand on the side while other mothers and families will have to go through what we’re going through. I have to speak out, and I have to help try to bring the troops home.

No matter who wins November 2 -–I hope it’s Kerry -–but no matter who wins, we have to hold them accountable. We have to start putting pressure on our elected officials to bring our troops home from the most unjust and mess of a war that our selected president has got us into.

BuzzFlash: Every month, there have been higher and higher American casualties.

Cindy Sheehan: Except for April, that was the highest. That’s the month my son was killed.

BuzzFlash: Right now, the situation is clearly deteriorating into a civil war. As a mom who’s lost a son in this war, how do you respond when you hear the president say that we need to stay the course in Iraq?

Cindy Sheehan: I respond: How can you stay a course that is so obviously not working? You’re going the wrong way. If you’re on a wrong course, you turn around and go the other way. He has betrayed us. He’s still betraying us, by telling us that everything is going well there. It’s shameful.

BuzzFlash: What would you say to President Bush if you could sit down in the same room and speak to him directly?

Cindy Sheehan: I actually got to meet face to face with the president. He called me "Mom"because he didn’t know my name, and he didn’t know my son’s name -- he just knows that he’s meeting with these families that have lost loved ones. He said, "Mom, I can’t imagine the pain you’re going through."

I said, "I think you can imagine it a little bit, Mr. President. You have daughters. How would you feel if one of them was killed?"

I told him, "Trust me, Mr. President –- you don’t want to go there."

He said, "You’re right. I don’t."

BuzzFlash: Cindy, thank you so much for speaking with us.

Cindy Sheehan: Thank you.

A BUZZFLASH INTERVIEW

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/10/int04050.html

Would Bush send his own daughters off to war?

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why would Bush's daughters go to war? we dont have a draft anymore.

its not about a draft .. its about proving that he believes that this is a valid and just war. If he believes that it is, then he should be the first to have his daughters enlist! Why shouldnt they .. if your going to start something you should be the first one to give up as many of your own personal resources *in this case, we need soliders and his daughters are the prime age for serving*. So if your going to start a war that demands families sacrifice their children .. you should be the first to have your family in line to go out and fight the good fight that you belive is so necessary ..

This war is such bullshit, its so unjust ... its just sad ... and its even more sad when people believe that we are going to stop terrorist .. whatever ...

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its not about a draft .. its about proving that he believes that this is a valid and just war. If he believes that it is, then he should be the first to have his daughters enlist! Why shouldnt they .. if your going to start something you should be the first one to give up as many of your own personal resources *in this case, we need soliders and his daughters are the prime age for serving*. So if your going to start a war that demands families sacrifice their children .. you should be the first to have your family in line to go out and fight the good fight that you belive is so necessary ..

This war is such bullshit, its so unjust ... its just sad ... and its even more sad when people believe that we are going to stop terrorist .. whatever ...

thats a crock of shit..

no one said sacrifices wouldnt be made. better over there than here.

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its not about a draft .. its about proving that he believes that this is a valid and just war. If he believes that it is, then he should be the first to have his daughters enlist!

Call me crazy but "to have someone enlist"? Isn't that the same as forcing them? aka THE DRAFT? Does this not contradict your own words "it's not about a draft"?

Want change? Start winning elections. Until then, the majority rules. As harsh as this may sound, losers do not set the agenda. The winners do! Bush and the MAJORITY of congress voted for this war and the majority of Americans voted for Bush and voted to re-elect him so .............

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Call me crazy but "to have someone enlist"? Isn't that the same as THE DRAFT? Does this not contradict your own word "it's not about a draft"?

Want change? Start winning elections. Until then, the majority rules. As harsh as this may sound, losers do not set the agenda. The winners do!

winners arent suppose to lie and bring us into war based on lies

and what does majority rules haave to do with her question of why If Georgie says this is a noble cause we are fighting he doesnt suggest his daughters to go ahead and SIGN Up

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So I guess I can ask the following:

Since you are so against this war why don't you send some family members over to fight our troops?

God Bless Our Troops !!!!!!!!!!!!

wow you got me on that one chief

so sad ,please feel free to :hang:

but only after you answer the original question

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Call me crazy but "to have someone enlist"? Isn't that the same as forcing them? aka THE DRAFT? Does this not contradict your own words "it's not about a draft"?

Want change? Start winning elections. Until then, the majority rules. As harsh as this may sound, losers do not set the agenda. The winners do! Bush and the MAJORITY of congress voted for this war and the majority of Americans voted for Bush and voted to re-elect him so .............

Your nit picking at my words is a pathetic attempt to avoid the original question which you still managed to avoid ..

IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AGREED THIS IS A WAR THAT MUST HAPPEN, THEN WHY HAVENT YOU ASKED YOUR DAUGHTERS TO JOIN OUR GREAT ARMED FORCES?! YOU SEEM TO ASK ALL OF AMERICAS YOUTH TO JOIN A GREAT CAUSE, SO WHY HAVENT YOU ASKED YOUR FAMILY TO MAKE THE SAME SACRIFICE?

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Cindy Sheehan's Crowd

New York Sun Editorial

August 11, 2005

It's easy to see why Cindy Sheehan, the 48-year-old mother of a soldier killed in Iraq, has become the new face of the anti-war movement, featured in a New York Times editorial on Tuesday and a Maureen Dowd column yesterday morning. Camped out in Crawford, Texas, near President Bush's ranch, she's a more sympathetic face than a lot of the alternatives. But as sad as Ms. Sheehan's loss is - and we don't belittle it - she has put herself in league with some extreme groups and individuals.

For starters, Ms. Sheehan has been posting on Michael Moore's Web site, writing, "We have such a strong coalition of groups. GSFP, Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, Military Families Speak Out and the Crawford Peace House. I talked with John Conyers today and he wrote a letter to George signed by about 18 other Congress members to request that he meet with me. I also talked to Maxine Waters tonight and she is probably going to be here tomorrow."

It turns out that the Crawford Peace House Web site includes a photo depicting the entire state of Israel as "Palestine," and it carries a link to a report that when Prime Minister Sharon visited Crawford, the "peace house" greeted him with an "800-foot-long banner containing all of the United Nations resolutions that Israel is in violation of." The Crawford Peace House site also features a photo of Eugene Bird, who has suggested that Israeli intelligence was responsible for the abuses at Abu Ghraib.

Code Pink, Veterans for Peace, and Military Families Speak Out all have representatives on the steering committee of United for Peace and Justice, an anti-war umbrella group. They share that distinction with the Communist Party USA. UPJ organized the march during the 2004 Republican Convention in New York, at which a New York Sun poll of 253 of the protesters found that fully 67% of those surveyed said they agreed with the statement "Iraqi attacks on American troops occupying Iraq are legitimate resistance." In other words, Ms. Sheehan's "coalition" includes a lot of people who think the persons who killed her son were justified.

United for Peace is nonetheless flogging Ms. Sheehan's story in the run-up to its big weekend of "civil disobedience" and "direct action" next month in Washington. That protest is timed to coincide with the meetings of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, so that the people who were throwing rocks at Starbucks in Seattle to protest free trade back during the Clinton administration can now make common cause with the anti-war movement.

This story, among others, is being followed on the new blog of The New York Sun, Itshinesforall.com, where our Ira Stoll noted that news of Mr. Conyers and Ms. Waters's involvement with Ms. Sheehan fits with the rest of the picture. Mr. Conyers was the host of a Democratic "hearing" in June on the Iraq war that his fellow Democrat, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, protested was a forum for "people motivated by anti-Semitic or anti-Israel animus." Ms. Waters is still best known for having endorsed the conspiracy theory that the CIA caused the crack epidemic in American cities. The whole crowd gains more from its association with Ms. Sheehan than she gains from her association with it.

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Don't know if this will turn out to be authentic, but it is getting some circulation:

FAMILY OF FALLEN SOLDIER PLEADS: PLEASE STOP, CINDY!

Thu Aug 11 2005 12:56:21 ET

The family of American soldier Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has broken its silence and spoken out against his mother Cindy Sheehan's anti-war vigil against George Bush held outside the president's Crawford, Texas ranch.

The following email was received by the DRUDGE REPORT from Casey's aunt and godmother:

Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks à Cherie

In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue: Sheehan Family Statement:

The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.

Sincerely,

Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.

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Your nit picking at my words is a pathetic attempt to avoid the original question which you still managed to avoid ..

IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AGREED THIS IS A WAR THAT MUST HAPPEN, THEN WHY HAVENT YOU ASKED YOUR DAUGHTERS TO JOIN OUR GREAT ARMED FORCES?! YOU SEEM TO ASK ALL OF AMERICAS YOUTH TO JOIN A GREAT CAUSE, SO WHY HAVENT YOU ASKED YOUR FAMILY TO MAKE THE SAME SACRIFICE?

Because it is not their job.

I love McDonalds Big Macs...do I make my mother go get a job at McDonalds..

Im not gonna go into about lying and what not..its no point...their is no convincing you liberal retards...was their a little exagerration of WMDs.. sure..

but bottom line is we NEED to be over there.. we NEED to create a potent democracy in Iraq.. once that happens (which wont be a couple of years but many) other arab countries will follow suit and then maybe we can destroy whatever little terrorism will be left...

say whatever you will..disprove my points.. im not gonna waste anymore time..ive already wasted enough breath..

but we are over there and their is NOTHING that you can do about it..

and BUSH is president few more years and there is NOTHING you can do about it..

that must still hurt you guys..

i guess posting liberal gibberish on a club messageboard is your only way to cope with the inevitable.

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Since you are so against this war why don't you send some family members over to fight our troops?

Duh!! Is it because many of the same people who so happen to be against this war have family and friends out there in the shit fighting and dying at the expense of Bush's 12974293874723 lies about this bullshit racist war for his own personal gain?

You're question has as much intellect as a sponge.

God Bless Our Troops !!!!!!!!!!!!

God save our troops from BUSH!

Don't know if this will turn out to be authentic, but it is getting some circulation:

FAMILY OF FALLEN SOLDIER PLEADS: PLEASE STOP, CINDY!

Thu Aug 11 2005 12:56:21 ET

The family of American soldier Casey Sheehan, who was killed in Iraq on April 4, 2004, has broken its silence and spoken out against his mother Cindy Sheehan's anti-war vigil against George Bush held outside the president's Crawford, Texas ranch.

The following email was received by the DRUDGE REPORT from Casey's aunt and godmother:

Our family has been so distressed by the recent activities of Cindy we are breaking our silence and we have collectively written a statement for release. Feel free to distribute it as you wish. Thanks à Cherie

In response to questions regarding the Cindy Sheehan/Crawford Texas issue: Sheehan Family Statement:

The Sheehan Family lost our beloved Casey in the Iraq War and we have been silently, respectfully grieving. We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.

Sincerely,

Casey Sheehan's grandparents, aunts, uncles and numerous cousins.

It's fake. Like you. Lemming. :D

Because it is not their job.

I love McDonalds Big Macs...do I make my mother go get a job at McDonalds..

Im not gonna go into about lying and what not..its no point...their is no convincing you liberal retards...was their a little exagerration of WMDs.. sure..

but bottom line is we NEED to be over there.. we NEED to create a potent democracy in Iraq.. once that happens (which wont be a couple of years but many) other arab countries will follow suit and then maybe we can destroy whatever little terrorism will be left...

say whatever you will..disprove my points.. im not gonna waste anymore time..ive already wasted enough breath..

but we are over there and their is NOTHING that you can do about it..

and BUSH is president few more years and there is NOTHING you can do about it..

mmmmmmph, mmmmmmmmmmmph, MMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPHHHHHH!!! (Your mom is talking). She says it's time to rotate the tires underneath the house again. :D

But seriously... You love war. Will you go to war? Is it your "job"? Would you send your own kids off to war? Is it their "job"? You seem to enjoy it so much so why don't you take action and sign up? Have your kids sign up too. Or are you too much of a bootlicking chickenhawk pussy, like igloo?

And yes. His daughters can go fight. Will Bushie let them? No. Why? Because he rather see someone else's child get killed over his lies over seeing his own air-headed daughters get blown away. For me to believe Bush is telling the truth? Send his own daughters off to war... Or even himself and Laura. There are roughly six or so family members of congressmen who are fighting so that debunks your "it's not their job" CONSERVATIVE gibberish on a club board loser.

Hey, it's war. People die. Get over it, as you gung ho right wing extremists tell us.... until YOUR loved one(s) die on foreign soil then you go into a frenzy when the same rhetorical words are rammed back down your neo-rethuglikkklan throats.

It's war. People die. Get over it, right? Headgiver?

i guess posting liberal gibberish on a club messageboard is your only way to cope with the inevitable.

Don't like it? Log off and never come back again. Of course you can always register at conservativeunderground.com then you won't have to read our liberal "gibberish". It's your only way to cope with the "inevitable". Better yet, execute the suicide solution. Yourself.

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destruction.....seriously, go get some professional medical attention....

Translation:

destruction.....you got a point....

You know, there are pills for your illness. Consult your shrink for the right prescription for your mental disorder. Like cyanide capsules.

But seriously sheepboy, will you enlist to fight a war you support? Like your family and friends did? Or will you continue to be a chickenhawk pussy and fight it from your recliner, watching Fox News?

Moron.

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Duh!! Is it because many of the same people who so happen to be against this war have family and friends out there in the shit fighting and dying at the expense of Bush's 12974293874723 lies about this bullshit racist war for his own personal gain?

You're question has as much intellect as a sponge.

God save our troops from BUSH!

It's fake. Like you. Lemming. :D

mmmmmmph, mmmmmmmmmmmph, MMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPHHHHHH!!! (Your mom is talking). She says it's time to rotate the tires underneath the house again. :D

But seriously... You love war. Will you go to war? Is it your "job"? Would you send your own kids off to war? Is it their "job"? You seem to enjoy it so much so why don't you take action and sign up? Have your kids sign up too. Or are you too much of a bootlicking chickenhawk pussy, like igloo?

And yes. His daughters can go fight. Will Bushie let them? No. Why? Because he rather see someone else's child get killed over his lies over seeing his own air-headed daughters get blown away. For me to believe Bush is telling the truth? Send his own daughters off to war... Or even himself and Laura. There are roughly six or so family members of congressmen who are fighting so that debunks your "it's not their job" CONSERVATIVE gibberish on a club board loser.

Hey, it's war. People die. Get over it, as you gung ho right wing extremists tell us.... until YOUR loved one(s) die on foreign soil then you go into a frenzy when the same rhetorical words are rammed back down your neo-rethuglikkklan throats.

It's war. People die. Get over it, right? Headgiver?

Don't like it? Log off and never come back again. Of course you can always register at conservativeunderground.com then you won't have to read our liberal "gibberish". It's your only way to cope with the "inevitable". Better yet, execute the suicide solution. Yourself.

4 more years ! :biggun:

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Translation:

You know, there are pills for your illness. Consult your shrink for the right prescription for your mental disorder. Like cyanide capsules.

But seriously sheepboy, will you enlist to fight a war you support? Like your family and friends did? Or will you continue to be a chickenhawk pussy and fight it from your recliner, watching Fox News?

Moron.

chickenhawks_logo.gif

Talking point #3 from the "How to be a Michael Moore sheep in 10 easy lessons"---When you are getting your ass kicked, and of course can't justify any of your clueless positions in a war vs antiwar debate, always level the charge that you can't be pro-war unless you enlist yourself-----and for good measure, always throw a dart about FoxNews".....

Destruction you are a classic blowhard with the IQ ofa vagina wart.........now, either go get professional help, or kill yourself.......I don't care which one you choose, but make teh decision quick social misfit

Please make sure to tell the Dr. abour your little "translation" problem......I think the Doc would find that interesting

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i guess posting liberal gibberish on a club messageboard is your only way to cope with the inevitable.

Im sorry wasnt this the Current Events section .. isnt this current events .. jesus your right we shouldnt arguee with you cause it seems you cant figure out where your posting .. smooth

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we NEED to create a potent democracy in Iraq.. once that happens (which wont be a couple of years but many) other arab countries will follow suit and then maybe we can destroy whatever little terrorism will be left...

Do you honestly believe that by forcing on arab country into democracy the rest will just line up to accept it?

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