DETROIT Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtmRead The First Paragraph."The Federal Emergency Management Agency - a former independent agency that became part of the new Department of Homeland Security in March 2003 - is tasked with responding to, planning for, recovering from and mitigating against disasters. FEMA can trace its beginnings to the Congressional Act of 1803. This act, generally considered the first piece of disaster legislation, provided assistance to a New Hampshire town following an extensive fire. In the century that followed, ad hoc legislation was passed more than 100 times in response to hurricanes, earthquakes, floods and other natural disasters."The precedent in the United States of America is that the Federal Government is responsible for protecting against and responding to Natural Disasters, end of story.Blaming a mayor of a local city is the equivilant of blaming a soldier for losing or winning a war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 i gota add tho..Ray Nagin is a utter and complete moron. he might not be held accountable for what happened during Katrina..but he should be put on trial just for being that dumb. ...after screaming and hollering about how no one cares...he switches sides and blames "mother nature" for this catastrophe...idiotone of the consultants @ my firm knows Nagin and Blanco personally...the real estate arm of firm is involved with rebuilding in Louisiana and Mississippi (some of our clients were the casinos in Tunica that got blown into Memphis)...guy told me that Nagin has to be the cockiest son of a bitch ever..while at the same time having NO CLUE as to whats going on down there...his words for Mrs. Blanco were similar...if i remember correctly...his exact words were "In Mississippi u can see that theres some kind of organization..some kind of attempt by government to get things cleaned up...meanwhile in Louisiana theyre still blaming each other for what happened" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 my point is that while the US stood all high and mighty and passes judgement on other nations and their "racial(ist)" practices...they neglected what went on in their own country. saying that there race had nothing to do with the the treatment and response of Katrina is absurd...FEMA head Brown said he didnt know what was going on down in Louisiana until a day or 2 after Katrina hit..which led a CNN correspondent to ask him "Do you watch television?"...the US has a history of ignoring global catastrophes/ills (rwanda being one)....so for them to try to avoid what was going on in its own south is understandable..after all..theyre mostly black down there...saying race had something to do with it is even more absurd. the main reason for the katrina mishap was poor preparation..bottom line. it was predicted many times that a hurricane was gonna hit..but lo and behold the governor & mayor for the past 20 years have done NOTHING.and to say the US has a history of ignoring global catastrophes is pretty dumb too.. whenever there is some type of catastrophe we are usually the first to respond and the first to help...i dont know the statistics of all the world's catastrophes and i am sure we have neglected some.. but when it comes down to it we pretty much lead the pack when it comes to world aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 but the most obvious..and eggggggggggregious example in the past 40 years of disregard for human life was ignored by the US...so u can tell me about all these wonderful little things and world aid Bon Jovi..but all i remember is millllllllllllions of africans being HACKED (yes..as in with machettes) to death in Africa..and the US turning its attention to the issues between cyprus and turkey..poor preparation right? how were they supposed to prepare? once again skippy..uve got it twisted..this is new orleans not nyc...no one in the fed gave 2 shits about them cause they had no $$ contribute to a campaign..and their votes dont mean shit...just go back to senate discussion of the disaster .."most of it can be bulldozed"...yup...those compassionate senators..always doing the right thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 http://www.fema.gov/about/history.shtmThe precedent in the United States of America is that the Federal Government is responsible for protecting against and responding to Natural Disasters, end of story.Blaming a mayor of a local city is the equivilant of blaming a soldier for losing or winning a war.National Response Plan (NRP) dated December 2004 under the Department of Homeland Security."A basic premise of the NRP is that incidents aregenerally handled at the lowest jurisdictional levelpossible. Police, fire, public health and medical,emergency management, and other personnel areresponsible for incident management at the local level.In some instances, a Federal agency in the local areamay act as a first responder and may provide directionor assistance consistent with its specific statutoryauthorities and responsibilities. In the vast majority ofincidents, State and local resources and interstate mutualaid normally provide the first line of emergencyresponse and incident management support."game over..give it up troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETROIT Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 i dont know the statistics of all the world's catastrophes and i am sure we have neglected some.. but when it comes down to it we pretty much lead the pack when it comes to world aid.Not true, having worked for many NGO's and the UN in the past i can say that while the US leads in world in money donated for disasters, it is very very far behind in percentage of GDP donated........ Other countries offer much more than we do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETROIT Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 National Response Plan (NRP) dated December 2004 under the Department of Homeland Security."A basic premise of the NRP is that incidents aregenerally handled at the lowest jurisdictional levelpossible. Police, fire, public health and medical,emergency management, and other personnel areresponsible for incident management at the local level.In some instances, a Federal agency in the local areamay act as a first responder and may provide directionor assistance consistent with its specific statutoryauthorities and responsibilities. In the vast majority ofincidents, State and local resources and interstate mutualaid normally provide the first line of emergencyresponse and incident management support."game over..give it up trollBut what resources does the Mayor have at his disposal?, and why do you think the NRP holds more weight than the mission statement of FEMA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 but the most obvious..and eggggggggggregious example in the past 40 years of disregard for human life was ignored by the US...so u can tell me about all these wonderful little things and world aid Bon Jovi..but all i remember is millllllllllllions of africans being HACKED (yes..as in with machettes) to death in Africa..and the US turning its attention to the issues between cyprus and turkey..dont know anything about that.. so ill let someone with a better history argue that one with youpoor preparation right? how were they supposed to prepare? once again skippy..uve got it twisted..this is new orleans not nyc...no one in the fed gave 2 shits about them cause they had no $$ contribute to a campaign..and their votes dont mean shit...they had a plan written out well before katrina but no one did anything... just go back to senate discussion of the disaster .."most of it can be bulldozed"...yup...those compassionate senators..always doing the right thing....im not gonna argue with you anymore.. its already proven you hate this country more than anyone on this board.. whatever i say to yuo does little to change your twisted mentality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 Not true, having worked for many NGO's and the UN in the past i can say that while the US leads in world in money donated for disasters, it is very very far behind in percentage of GDP donated........ Other countries offer much more than we do....so we lead the world in money donated.. but yet we are this horrible country as so eloquently put by ghhhost...please give me a break..if you hate this country so much then get out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 But what resources does the Mayor have at his disposal?, and why do you think the NRP holds more weight than the mission statement of FEMA?dude the mayor did nothing.. he could have had those people well out before the hurricane even hit the shore.. he had the buses...police..fire dept; etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 dont know anything about that.. so ill let someone with a better history argue that one with youthey had a plan written out well before katrina but no one did anything... im not gonna argue with you anymore.. its already proven you hate this country more than anyone on this board.. whatever i say to yuo does little to change your twisted mentalityi dont hate this country... i hate what this country has become. its like people wear FoxNews/CNN blinders on their fucking heads...u think a moron president like this could have survived this long in the 60's and 70's?the more a society evolves, the more complex it gets...and the easier it becomes to dupe the masses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 dude the mayor did nothing.. he could have had those people well out before the hurricane even hit the shore.. he had the buses...police..fire dept; etcjesus fucking christ...get ur head out of ur ass..and realize that NEW ORLEANS IS NOT NEW YORK CITY...he had 1/10th of the resources that other "major" cities do.and ur talking about people who have nothing but maybe a small/modest home in some run down neighborhood of New Orleans..why the hell would they wana leave?...theyve been ignored this long..y the fuck would they wana believe the government wants to help them now?? its long festering distrust between minorities of this country and the Fed govt. which is to blame for this unfortunate incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 didn't read the rest of the thread but I agree with this comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 i dont hate this country... i hate what this country has become. its like people wear FoxNews/CNN blinders on their fucking heads...u think a moron president like this could have survived this long in the 60's and 70's?the more a society evolves, the more complex it gets...and the easier it becomes to dupe the masses...what this country has become?? you werent even alive in the 60s and 70s so you really cant comment on what would happen at the time...and you cant just this country vs a past you werent a part of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 i had to be alive to know the social changes that occured during the 60s and 70s....? i cant just pick up a book and read about it?...and i have to be a part of something in order to understand it? ur making no sense..by ur logic only nazis can tell us about germany under the third reich.....ancient greece never existed cause none of us alive can talk about itcolumbus didnt discover americaedison and tesla didnt invent ac/dc currentsand so on and so forth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 i had to be alive to know the social changes that occured during the 60s and 70s....? i cant just pick up a book and read about it?...and i have to be a part of something in order to understand it? ur making no sense..by ur logic only nazis can tell us about germany under the third reich.....ancient greece never existed cause none of us alive can talk about itcolumbus didnt discover americaedison and tesla didnt invent ac/dc currentsand so on and so forthno where in your initial response were you speakin of social changes in the 60s or 70s..you just said the country was better back then...regardless of how much you read you cant say that unless you lived during the times and experienced things first hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 its called implying..ur trying to get all literal...gona check my spelling next??...what else would i be talking about when mentioning that a president like this wouldnt survive in the 60s & 70's....i didnt think u were that dense that i had to spell it out for u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 its called implying..ur trying to get all literal...gona check my spelling next??...what else would i be talking about when mentioning that a president like this wouldnt survive in the 60s & 70's....i didnt think u were that dense that i had to spell it out for usorry you werent that clear..anyway..go fuck yourself peder ok im out of this thread before that retard elevatedflow starts posting on it and drops the intelligence level below the 5th grade mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghhhhhost Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 pusi ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevatedflow Posted November 15 Report Share Posted November 15 sorry you werent that clear..anyway..go fuck yourself peder amazing how you maintain employment and manage to be such a huge anus at the same time all day long on this board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlogic Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 jesus fucking christ...get ur head out of ur ass..and realize that NEW ORLEANS IS NOT NEW YORK CITY...he had 1/10th of the resources that other "major" cities do.and ur talking about people who have nothing but maybe a small/modest home in some run down neighborhood of New Orleans..why the hell would they wana leave?...theyve been ignored this long..y the fuck would they wana believe the government wants to help them now?? its long festering distrust between minorities of this country and the Fed govt. which is to blame for this unfortunate incident.ME,ME,ME,,,PUT ME IN COACH!!!1/10 the resources? Funny, I read that LA. recieved the most funds which miraculously disappeared under the well known massive corruption which plagues that state, specifically New Orleans. If they only had 1/10 the resources, they only have themselves to blame. What next? Are they gonna ask the "gub-mint" to chew their food for them too?To imply a consipracy aimed at the locals who chose not to leave or at least evacuate to the superdome or conv. cntr is silly. NO has been run and continues to be run by democrats(most of them black). Mayor, chief of police, fire depts, etc..etc. Repz have not held any power in that state nor that city in a long, long time.What the world witnessed after Katriana is exactly what you get when you let liberalism run rampant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETROIT Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Wow! who would have thought...... Ignorance AND Racisim in the same post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Wow! who would have thought...... Ignorance AND Racisim in the same post!sure. Nice rebuttal!last I recall, you guys were pulling the race card on this issue. Shame on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DETROIT Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Pulling the race card on mistreatment of a minority is different than making fun of the way a minority speaks and somehow implying that a cities finances are based upon the color of the populations skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headpusher Posted November 16 Report Share Posted November 16 Pulling the race card on mistreatment of a minority is different than making fun of the way a minority speaks and somehow implying that a cities finances are based upon the color of the populations skin.i believe he was making fun of the way southerners speak in general (as I recall he himself is a minority). Also, he did not imply finances were based on skin color but on incompetance. His mention of race was merely to show how silly the idea of the lack of response time being connected to racism is. Wrong again. Not unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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