240turbo Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 This one is for the race fans. Let's hear it!!!Personally I never considered NASCAR a form of motorsports. Motorsports are all about advanced technology and light weight. Nascar is neither. The cars are heavier than tanks(3500 lbs) and use 1960's detroit pushrod technology making 700 hp. NASCAR is driven on an oval track, meaning the drivers only turn left. BORING!!! Yuck. Formula 1 cars are made of light, exotic materials like Carbon Fiber and Kevlar. Resulting in 1600 lbs w/ driver. The engines make close to 900 hp out of extrememly high revving and high tech small displacement engines. Result= scary speed and gravity forces , try 0-60 in 1.8 secs 3.0 g's, if not more in g-forces and a restricted top speed of well over 230MPH. Yikes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michael^heaven Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 ---I'd say that for the fans, NASCAR is better. Just because it's more fan friendly, allowing fans to get up-close & personal with the drivers, cars, & crew areas. The television coverage also seems to be more widespread...at least here in the States. Plus, you can hear the pit crew & driver conversations during a race if you have a Nextel phone. Now, for speed & pushing the envelope of technology, hands down Formula1 takes the cake. Personally, they both bore me to tears but that's just IMO. 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni1414777741 Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 MotoGP. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tres-b Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 F1 takes time to get into the story lines, understand the technology and appreciate completely. It isnt a sport that you really get the most out of without watching a few races(minimum). The cars develop as the season progresses. The tracks are legendary. The drivers are the best in the world. Anyone who votes for Nascar doesnt have a clue.Nascar is for dumbass wannabe race fans who are too stupid and dim to cheer for anything other than a big slow car running into the ass of another big slow car to push them out of the way.MotoGP rocks. Those guys are absolutely incredible. I dont follow it like I do F1 but the races are great. If you like flat out on the edge racing, MotoGP is for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fez Posted December 9 Report Share Posted December 9 F1 followed by Champ Car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all4tribal1414779019 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 nothing can beat my 0-60 under 1.0secs motobyke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V. Barbarino Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240turbo Posted December 11 Author Report Share Posted December 11 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...Dude.....The comparison is between F1 and Nascar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240turbo Posted December 11 Author Report Share Posted December 11 nothing can beat my 0-60 under 1.0secs motobykeI can run faster than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mp3some Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 Anyone who votes for Nascar doesnt have a clue.Nascar is for dumbass wannabe race fans who are too stupid and dim to cheer for anything other than a big slow car running into the ass of another big slow car to push them out of the way.MotoGP rocks. Those guys are absolutely incredible. I dont follow it like I do F1 but the races are great. If you like flat out on the edge racing, MotoGP is for you.lol *claps* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240turbo Posted December 12 Author Report Share Posted December 12 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...The driver still shifts using a sequential gearbox with steering wheel mounted buttons. It's not an automatic. And no it's not that gimmicky tiptronic BS transmission that you see in 90% of the cars nowadays. A sequential gearbox actually shifts faster than a human being. Very few street cars actually have a sequential gearbox. The New M5, the M3 and pretty much all the Ferraris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMT Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 its all about top fuel!personally i wish american open wheel racing never would have split...F1 is the easily the most advanced but that doesnt mean there is no appeal in NASCAR. just like how the NFL is the epitome of professional football but the NCAA is a game all its own. that oval track some call boring allows for more passing. ive seen F1 races where barely a single person gets passed. its not the technology that makes racing interesting to me, its the thrill. to paraphrase michael schumacher, "you have to be a little bit insane to want to race ovals." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fez Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...street racing is not fun...it's stupid...and dangerous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mp3some Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 first off' date=' illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...[/quote']The driver still shifts using a sequential gearbox with steering wheel mounted buttons. It's not an automatic. And no it's not that gimmicky tiptronic BS transmission that you see in 90% of the cars nowadays. A sequential gearbox actually shifts faster than a human being. Very few street cars actually have a sequential gearbox. The New M5, the M3 and pretty much all the Ferraris. Nearly every race car that has a manual transmission uses the sequential approach rather than the "H" pattern. There are four main reasons for this preference: The sequential shift is quicker. For example, to go from 2nd to 3rd gear on the "H" pattern, you have to push the lever up, over and up again. That takes time. On a sequential gearbox, you simply push the lever up for every gear change. The sequential shift is consistent. You do not have to think, "Let's see, I'm in second gear so I have to go up-over-up to get to third." You simply push the lever forward -- it's the same motion for every gear. The hand location is consistent. With the "H" pattern, the location of the shift lever changes, so you have to think about where to put your hand depending on which gear you are in. With a sequential gearbox, the shift lever is always in the same place for the next shift. The sequential shift has no surprises. If you mis-shift with the "H" pattern in a race (for example, down-shifting to 2nd when you meant to go to 4th), it is possible to blow up the engine. That can never happen with a sequential gearbox. The other advantage is that the sequential shift lever takes up less space in the race car cockpit. You only need space for the forward/backward motion of the lever, not left/right. This photo shows the gear shift lever of the Motorola Champ car. The gear shift lever is to the driver's right. The car has a sequential six-speed transmission, so instead of the H-pattern seen on a normal manual transmission, the shifter moves in a straight line.Nearly all race transmissions use the sequential shift approach. The drum is rotated manually by a lever in the cockpit, or it is rotated by solenoids, pneumatics or hydraulics that are activated electronically. In the electronic case, the driver has a pair of paddle switches on the steering wheel to control the mechanism and never has to move his/her hands from the steering wheel. Because of the advantages of the sequential approach, this type of transmission is starting to appear on cars in the high-end tuner market. A sequential manual transmission is not to be confused with a "tiptronic" sort of automatic transmission. The tiptronic system may duplicate the shift lever motion of a sequential gearbox. However, because a tiptronic transmission is an automatic transmission at its core, it still has the torque converter and usually does not shift as quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all4tribal1414779019 Posted December 13 Report Share Posted December 13 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...The driver still shifts using a sequential gearbox with steering wheel mounted buttons. It's not an automatic. And no it's not that gimmicky tiptronic BS transmission that you see in 90% of the cars nowadays. A sequential gearbox actually shifts faster than a human being. Very few street cars actually have a sequential gearbox. The New M5, the M3 and pretty much all the Ferraris. Nearly every race car that has a manual transmission uses the sequential approach rather than the "H" pattern. There are four main reasons for this preference: The sequential shift is quicker. For example, to go from 2nd to 3rd gear on the "H" pattern, you have to push the lever up, over and up again. That takes time. On a sequential gearbox, you simply push the lever up for every gear change. The sequential shift is consistent. You do not have to think, "Let's see, I'm in second gear so I have to go up-over-up to get to third." You simply push the lever forward -- it's the same motion for every gear. The hand location is consistent. With the "H" pattern, the location of the shift lever changes, so you have to think about where to put your hand depending on which gear you are in. With a sequential gearbox, the shift lever is always in the same place for the next shift. The sequential shift has no surprises. If you mis-shift with the "H" pattern in a race (for example, down-shifting to 2nd when you meant to go to 4th), it is possible to blow up the engine. That can never happen with a sequential gearbox. The other advantage is that the sequential shift lever takes up less space in the race car cockpit. You only need space for the forward/backward motion of the lever, not left/right. This photo shows the gear shift lever of the Motorola Champ car. The gear shift lever is to the driver's right. The car has a sequential six-speed transmission, so instead of the H-pattern seen on a normal manual transmission, the shifter moves in a straight line.Nearly all race transmissions use the sequential shift approach. The drum is rotated manually by a lever in the cockpit, or it is rotated by solenoids, pneumatics or hydraulics that are activated electronically. In the electronic case, the driver has a pair of paddle switches on the steering wheel to control the mechanism and never has to move his/her hands from the steering wheel. Because of the advantages of the sequential approach, this type of transmission is starting to appear on cars in the high-end tuner market. A sequential manual transmission is not to be confused with a "tiptronic" sort of automatic transmission. The tiptronic system may duplicate the shift lever motion of a sequential gearbox. However, because a tiptronic transmission is an automatic transmission at its core, it still has the torque converter and usually does not shift as quickly. wow i did not know that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oni1414777741 Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...street racing is not fun...it's stupid...and dangerous...Exactly.My opinion: In order to truly begin to race, you must first test yourself in a controlled environment, i.e. at a track against a clock. Once you know youreself, your limits, and your weaknesses, THEN you can pit yourself against other drivers. NASCAR's appeal is that its a more spectator friendly sport, the technology is easier to follow, the sponsors are household names etc. Its also a uniquely american sport. Though i hate NASCAR. I prefer F1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240turbo Posted December 14 Author Report Share Posted December 14 first off, illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...street racing is not fun...it's stupid...and dangerous...Exactly.My opinion: In order to truly begin to race, you must first test yourself in a controlled environment, i.e. at a track against a clock. Once you know youreself, your limits, and your weaknesses, THEN you can pit yourself against other drivers. NASCAR's appeal is that its a more spectator friendly sport, the technology is easier to follow, the sponsors are household names etc. Its also a uniquely american sport. Though i hate NASCAR. I prefer F1.NASCAR is for tabacco chewing, confederate flag wielding, beer swilling hillbillies with bushy mustaches, cowboy hats, and pointy boots...Yeehaw!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all4tribal1414779019 Posted December 14 Report Share Posted December 14 first off' date=' illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...[/quote']street racing is not fun...it's stupid...and dangerous...Exactly.My opinion: In order to truly begin to race, you must first test yourself in a controlled environment, i.e. at a track against a clock. Once you know youreself, your limits, and your weaknesses, THEN you can pit yourself against other drivers. NASCAR's appeal is that its a more spectator friendly sport, the technology is easier to follow, the sponsors are household names etc. Its also a uniquely american sport. Though i hate NASCAR. I prefer F1.Yeehaw!!!www.myspace.com/yeehaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mp3some Posted December 15 Report Share Posted December 15 first off' date=' illegal street racing is the ultimate form of racing, but F1 the drivers don't even drive, the computer does...[/quote']street racing is not fun...it's stupid...and dangerous...Exactly.My opinion: In order to truly begin to race, you must first test yourself in a controlled environment, i.e. at a track against a clock. Once you know youreself, your limits, and your weaknesses, THEN you can pit yourself against other drivers. NASCAR's appeal is that its a more spectator friendly sport, the technology is easier to follow, the sponsors are household names etc. Its also a uniquely american sport. Though i hate NASCAR. I prefer F1.NASCAR is for tabacco chewing, confederate flag wielding, beer swilling hillbillies with bushy mustaches, cowboy hats, and pointy boots...Yeehaw!!!AND Mullets! u forgot the mullets! LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMT Posted December 15 Report Share Posted December 15 ha habut theres bound to be a few euro-mullets at F1 events too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BIOBLIZZARD Posted December 15 Report Share Posted December 15 GIT-R-DONE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mp3some Posted December 15 Report Share Posted December 15 ha habut theres bound to be a few euro-mullets at F1 events too.umm..... no.^ :o ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tres-b Posted December 15 Report Share Posted December 15 I have never been to a sporting event that had as many beautiful women as the USGP. I can only imagine Monaco. 8)Nascar=white trash/ meth/ Winnabago F1=supermodels/ blow/ Ferrari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
240turbo Posted December 16 Author Report Share Posted December 16 I have never been to a sporting event that had as many beautiful women as the USGP. I can only imagine Monaco. 8)Nascar=white trash/ meth/ Winnabago F1=supermodels/ blow/ Ferrari LMAO tres!! ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mp3some Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Bizzump!!!The San Marino GP Coming up this weekend. Racing at Imola circuit... Ferrari's home turf. Legendary course, one of the funnest races of the season for all Ferrari Fans... A sea of red on the stands... ;DLooking fwd to it.The season is turning out nicely... Renault up on top of the Constructor's championship and Fernando Alonso kickin ass! on the driver's championship...Here's a little eye candy from the last race....Oh, and the cars too.....killer pumas there... #1...and one more for good measure....- 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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