djrman Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 This probably belongs in the drug forum, but it can't hurt to post it here......I recieved this email in reference to designer drugs info, etc. Here it is:Dear friend and fellow athlete,It has recently come to my attention that athletes, bodybuilders, andmodels are starting to party with three relatively new research chemicals.In this issue of Elite Fitness News, I would like to share with you whatis known about these new research chemicals that are becoming increasinglycommon at parties, raves, and discos. I would also like to tell you abouta safe, legal, party stack of my own that I and many others find verypleasurable.The first research chemical that bodybuilders, models, and athletes arebeginning to use at clubs is a substance that goes by the street name ofFoxy, or Foxy Methoxy. The pharmaceutical name is 5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine or 5-MeO-DIPT for short. The second researchchemical that we have heard quite a lot about recently goes by Mystic onthe streets. The pharmaceutical name for Mystic is 4-propylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine or 2C-T-7. The third substance, which is no longera research chemical and has now been scheduled as a Schedule 1 drug is2-(4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-phenyl)-ethylamine or 2C-B for short. On thestreet, 2C-B goes by the names Venus, Bromo, Eros, and Nexus.All three of these substances were first synthesized by Dr. AlexanderShulgin. Dr. Shulgin was the first to synthesize MDMA better known asEcstasy. These drugs could be called designer drugs, as they weredeveloped once Ecstasy became illegal in 1985.Before we discuss these new drugs, it might be helpful to look at whatexactly are research chemicals. Research chemicals literally refer tochemicals that are still being researched. When used to describepsychoactive drugs, it refers to new drugs that have not been thoroughlystudied.Some research chemicals are newly discovered substances, othersmay be ten or even twenty years old, but have not been studied. What iscommon to both types of drugs is that there is little research if any onthe pharmacology or toxicology of these substances. Most likely, there areno human or animal studies on these substances. In direct contrast withdrugs like ecstasy, which has been taken by millions of people for thelast three decades, and marijuana that has been used by billions of peoplefor thousands of years, research chemicals are new and may only have beenused by several hundred people for several months.Obviously, the risks with the use of research chemicals are enormous. Butperhaps because of many bodybuilders' daredevil spirit, we are beginningto see more and more experimentation with these substances in ourcommunity.Here is what we know so far.Foxy Methoxy5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamineFoxy Methoxy or 5-MeO-DIPT has proven to be quite interesting as arecreational substance. We believe that 5-MeO-DIPT has been given the name"Foxy Methoxy" as it pleasantly enhances tactile sensation in most users.At this time, as a research chemical, 5-MeO-DIPT is not illegal in theUnited States. Foxy should be white or tan in appearance. Since it is anindole alkaloid derivative, it has a strong indole smell and taste whichmost people find very unpleasant. Like other related substances, foxycombines with nerve receptors and liberates serotonin. As many peopleknow by now, serotonin or 5-hydroxytryptamine, is a neurotransmitterinvolved with sleep, pleasure, depression, and memory.Foxy's onset, duration, and effects vary according to your metabolism andneurochemistry. Other factors that may affect the trip: whether or not youhave a full stomach (fasting for at least 12 hours prior is recommended);psychological/emotional state you are experiencing when you dose; theenvironment it is taken in, etc. These variables are true of allpsychedelics. Generally, the effects build for roughly 2 hours, at whichpoint the peak is reached, and then there is a gradual wearing off thatlasts for about five hours.Foxy appears to be a drug that is fairly safe and may have potential fortherapeutic applications. It definitely deserves more research.Dosage5-MeO-DIPT is an extremely potent material making careful measurement anabsolute must. Without a scale, it can be very easy to overdose. It is nota good idea to "eyeball" a dose of this substance, as the dose-to-responsecurve is extremely steep.When taken orally at low doses (5-10mg), 5-MeO-DIPT induces a warm,pleasant state in which tactile and aural sensations may be enhanced. Manypeople have commented that at this dosage range, Foxy possesses amazingaphrodisiac qualities - enhancing the libido significantly. Increasing thedosage beyond the 10mg mark, athletes report the effects becomeincreasingly psychedelic, producing vivid visuals and mental phenomenonsimilar to LSD or Psilocybe mushrooms. Taking over 25mg at once couldprove to be highly dangerous.Booster DosesBodybuilders have reported taking booster doses to prolong the effects.Since tolerance does not develop significantly until after the peak of thetrip, athletes report that the optimal time for a booster dose is justprior to the onset of the peak.Side Effects:Fortunately, bodybuilders have not reported many side effects from Foxy.Some have reported insomnia following the trip while others reportednausea sometimes accompanied by vomiting. This can be avoided by fastingfor twelve hours prior to ingestion and possibly using Loperamide -- theactive ingredient in anti-diarrhea medications like Immodium.As with all mind-altering substances, certain common-sense precautionsexist with this drug. Do not drive a car; operate heavy machinery, etc.while under its influence. It should not be used if you are pregnant,nursing, or not of a mature emotional level. Those with a pre-existingmedical or psychological conditions should also avoid this drug.Users have reported developing a tolerance to Foxy after taking it. If onedoes not wait about a week before using this substance again, the effectswill be barely felt, or more will be required to produce the same effect.At present, 5-MeO-DIPT has caused no human deaths.StorageStore in an airtight container, kept in a cool, dark location.Mystic2C-T-74-propylthio-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, C12H21O2NS (mol. wt. 243.37)Another research chemical that is gaining popularity in the bodybuildercommunity is 2C-T-7, known on the street as Mystic. Anecdotal evidencesuggests that Mystic produces a more pronounced hallucinogenic effect thandoes Foxy - hence its name Mystic. Like Foxy, Mystic tends to produce someof the same feelings of euphoria. A trip reportedly lasts about sevenhours, with a peak at the end of the second hour. When administerednasally, like Foxy, the onset tends to come much quicker. As of thiswriting, we believe that Mystic is legal.Overall, athletes, bodybuilders, and models have reported positiveexperiences from this substance. Even the people who have expressed nointerest in taking it again often state that they are glad they had theexperience.DosagesTaken orally, a number of people report strong effects from dosages as lowas 10 mg; however, most believe that 15-25 mg is considered a mild dosage.A moderate dosage would be in the neighborhood of 25 to 35 mg. More than35 mg would be considered a strong dose.Side effectsWhile side effects such as nausea are common, people do not seem botheredby this fact. Some people have used the drug recklessly, in high doses andreported that they "freaked-out" like from a bad LSD trip. They alsoreported severe nausea. Negative side effects tend to be more severe whenthe drug is administered nasally.There is one death associated with 2C-T-7. A young man with noknown health problems and who was taking no other drugs insufflated(snorted) a 35mg dose. The most common nasal dose is 3-6 mg. Thisyoung man began bleeding profusely from the nose, vomiting, andconvulsing. He then went into cardiac arrest and died. Although the deathcould be caused by any number of things such as an unknown heart problempushed over the edge by a severe panic reaction, toxic impurities in thedrug, other drugs taken, allergic reaction to the drug, we cannot rule outthe possibility that it was an overdose. Autopsy results are notavailable.Venus, Bromo, Eros, and Nexus2C-B4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamineThe substance 2C-B, also known as "Venus", "Bromo", "Eros", or "Nexus", iscurrently a Schedule-I substance. After a company marketed 2C-B for humanconsumption, this former research chemical was scheduled, meaning that itis illegal to posses, manufacture, or distribute any amount of 2C-B forany purpose. Any persons caught breaking this law can be subject toprosecution.2C-B is related structurally to mescaline, DOB, and distantly to MDMA. Itwas first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin in 1974 while exploringhomologues of DOB. Its psychoactivity was first discovered on June 25,1975 by Dr. Shulgin who described it as "beautifully active". 2C-B wasmarketed in the late 1980s as an MDMA replacement after Ecstasy wasscheduled in 1985. It was added to Schedule I in the U.S. in 1994 and by1999, it was illegal in most of the world.2C-B has become popular in Germany and Switzerland and is believed to bemanufactured in South Africa and the Netherlands. It is becoming popularwith bodybuilders and models and has begun to appear on the Rave scene.The drug promotes an enhancement of visual and auditory perception, in-creased sexual desire, and heightened senses of taste and touch.The effects of 2C-B have been described as a cross between the effects ofLSD and MDMA. Athletes report that it is mildly psychedelic, much lessmind-expanding or disassociative than mushrooms or LSD, but much lessdirected than MDMA. The drug peaks about 90 minutes after ingestion.Most people experience 2C-B as being much 'lighter' on their body thanMDMA with far less 'crash' and much less physically draining. It is alsonot as 'easy' as MDMA, in that it is more of a 'true' psychedelic --allowing the users mind to become manifest and create the experienceinstead of being 'pushed' into a positive mood space as MDMA usually does.DosageNexus is generally available in pill, capsule, or powder form. It is tentimes more powerful than MDMA with a typical dosage unit ranging from 5 to10 milligramsSide Effects2C-B includes Open Eye Visual (OEV) effects that are usually described ascrawling, shifting, or undulating, or cartooning. Closed Eye Visuals(CEVs) are present and increase with dosage. Many report a 'color shift'where objects seem to have red or green halos around themThe drug does have some serious side effects, including confusion,cardiovascular disturbances, and dehydration. No price data are availableat this time.Many, but not all, people experience stomach discomfort sometimesincluding mild diarrhea, gas, nausea and (rarely) vomiting.Some people find 2C-B increases their ability to communicate verbally,while others find themselves unable to elucidate their ideas clearly. Somepeople describe a type of confusion that can be part of the experience, atype of 'stoned' feeling of mental and physical relaxationwhich can translate into the inability or lack of desire to go into complexintellectual processes.As I mentioned before, the long-term risks of these substances are unknownand therefore much greater than with older better-studied drugs. Usingthese substances make athletes into human guinea pigs. Bodybuilders tend to beparticularly susceptible to the use of these substances for recreationalpurposes as they hare used to experimentation with anabolic and androgenicsteroids. These drugs may be harmless and the may be beneficial, or they couldturn out to be like MPTP, the drug that caused the DEA to be givenemergency scheduling powers.MPTP was the byproduct of a faulty designer opiate. A chemist was tryingto develop a synthetic heroin. What was created instead was a compoundthat metabolizes in the body selectively killing dopamine neurons in thestriatum -- producing a syndrome nearly identical to Parkinson's disease.Using MPTP just once was sufficient to produce this result.So again, the moral is when you take a research chemicals, you are steppingout into the unknown, and you could be the unfortunate person to discovera new drug's lethal dose. You could find yourself addicted. Or youoverdose and end up at the hospital, the doctors will only be able toguess at how to treat you. If you aren't prepared to accept these risks,you should avoid research chemicals.At this point of course, I have to make my compulsory plug for MassQuantities. I would like to tell you about a secret combination of threenutriceuticals that I stack when I have a hot date or when I plan to godancing and want a boost.My secret party stack is one or two Tribulus Gold, one or two AndroInfusion, and one or two Phenyltropic. More than this is not required, andin the case of Phenyltropic, too much of a good thing can have theopposite of the desired effect if you know what I mean.I take the Tribulus Gold because of the profound effect it has on thelibido and on potency. Actually, I take Tribulus Gold all year round :-).If it can work this well in an older man like myself, just think what itcan do in younger men.I take the Andro Infusion for two reasons. First, I like the testosteroneboost and the buzz that comes from that. Secondly, I like the tingly andwarm sensation that comes from the Niacin.And lastly, I take the Phenyltropic, because I like the focused, time-released energy that it gives me. I also like how it raises the libido aswell.Pop one or two of each of these three nutriceuticals and you are ready toparty! For a testosterone rush, increased libido, and a raging erection,go to: http://www.massquantities.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crystalmethodny Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I've heard of Nexus awhile back through my friend who lived in Britain...Heard it was some craaaazy shit!Keep on the lookout for it, gotta surface here sometime if it hasnt already.------------------"Can you feel it?""We're going to build things up slowly... are you with me? Here we go."CrystalMethodNYC@aol.comwww.extremegroove.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crobra Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Some of this shit is starting to sound a little to fucked up - I don't know if would I try any of that shit!!------------------WALK WITH ME THROUGH THE UNIVERSE AND ALONG THE WAY SEE HOW ALL OF US ARE CONNECTED - FEAST THE EYES OF YOUR SOUL ON NO LOVE THAT IT BOUNDS ON ALL PLACES AT ONCE - SEEMINGLY ENDLESS - LIKE YOUR OWN EXISTENCE!!WE ARE ALL CONNECTED!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suedenyc Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I constantly question everyone around me for this very problem:With all the drugs in the world, all the chemists, all the research, all the cures and science....I can't believe no one can invent a safe party drug!!!! Do you know the money-making potential???? What's up with this???!!!!Something that gives you the feeling of E but without the toxicity, side-effects, and potential brain damage.Something where you're in full control at all times but have feelings of euphoria and joy. Something non-addictive, wears off, and completely safe on the body.Look at alcohol..sure you can get a nice buzz...however it can be addictive, can make you sick as a dog, kills brain cells as well, wreaks havoc on your liver while metabolizing it...and it's completely legal!!!Where is this miracle party drug?(Please don't throw anti-drug.."bring your own happiness" bombs at me---if you know me, you know I'm one of the happiest, well-adjusted, most content people you'll ever meet)Thanks,~R~------------------Peace,Love & Hairgrease,Rich Suede AOL/AIM: SuedeNYCEMail: SuedeNYC@aol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suedenyc Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Can I get a BUMP! (no pun intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echostar Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 where can i get some?------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loch Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Originally posted by suedenyc:....I can't believe no one can invent a safe party drug!!!! ...Something that gives you the feeling of E but without the toxicity, side-effects, and potential brain damage.i defer you to the wisdom of murphy: anything good in life is either illegal, immoral, or fattening.------------------ "Nessie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 HERE IS FORBRAVE NEW WORLD, ANDSOMAMAY IT SURFACE ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippin_e Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Suede I would hope to believe that those are the intentions of these scientists. But the human body is a very complicated and ever changing combination of organisms. If one part of your body reacts well to a chemical....another will most likely not. Even eating for christs sake is dangerous if not done in the "proper dosage". So I wouldn't say that these people aren't looking for a safe party drug but that they can't create it. My .02------------------..The judge said: "Son, what is your alibi? If you were somewhere else then you won't have to die." Well I said not a word. Though it meant my life, for I'd been in the arms of my best friends wife.“Be off, you wretch!” cried Aramis, throwing his skullcap in his face. “Return whence you came; take back those horrible vegetables, and that poor kickshaw! Order a larded hare, a fat capon, mutton leg dressed with garlic, and four bottles of old Burgundy.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessalove Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Originally posted by suedenyc:With all the drugs in the world, all the chemists, all the research, all the cures and science....I can't believe no one can invent a safe party drug!!!! Do you know the money-making potential???? What's up with this???!!!!...Thanks,~R~Honey, that's the point if it's just a recreational drug it'll be outlawed quicker than you can say boo. Explain to me the detriments of pot that are more than any cigarette, and we can't even smoke up legally. It's kinda depressing. All I know from the research that I've done is stacking a drinking is mad fun, but also mad dangerous, so I cut that out real quick. I'd love for it to really happen, but let's be realistic. The government is so against the club scene in general, and now we have right-ists in charge which makes our cause that much more impossible. But if in anyone knows something that really is legal and can get you the same effects of some illegal substance... bring that shit on -Ness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loch Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Originally posted by nessalove: -Nessthey call me ness, nessie, lochness.they call you ness, nessalovehow 'bout gettin' some lochnessalove? ------------------ "Nessie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyco Posted April 13 Report Share Posted April 13 Originally posted by nessalove: Explain to me the detriments of pot that are more than any cigarette, and we can't even smoke up legally.ness I'm no pro at this stuff but I would say it's the fact that THC fucks with your brain cells in a way to make you percieve things differently then they really are........Nicotine doesn't do anything of the sort.......I would guess that any substance that can pose immediate danger to the user or others around is going to be illegal........for that reason, I think smoking cigarettes will be banned more and more in the years to come (I don't mean illegal but "No Smoking")....just look at the early 70's where you could smoke practically anywhere compared to now.......as for the THC messing with brain receptors or whatever, alcohol does the same so I don't know what the fuck they are thinking..... spark it.... ------------------"I don't want a piece....I want the whole thing....." - Bob Barker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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