To me it looks like people are getting turned away for looking like they are rolling hard on the way in, are really twitchy at the door or look nervous. Don't give the door shit, don't be a fuck-up with your drink or drugs and we all win. The police only come in because somebody overdid, or did something that was not right. Look at it as an attractive nuisance. If there is no reason for the cop to come in, then he needs a court order. If there are people being hurt, then the cop has a right to come in. Going back to the door...If your eyes are f'in pie-plates they will probably turn you away. Police state, I think not. I like the idea that I can do what I want with out being mugged, panhandled or harassed when I walk the street. ------------------ JDogg Revenge is a dish best served with an appetizer of whoop-ass.