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Looks like we have some more pills floating around with PMA in them. Can't say it enough people buy a testing kit. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

BZ is an anti-cholinergenic hallucinogen (3-quinuclidinyl benzillate). There are stories of the CIA using this drug during the 60's and early 70's haven't heard too much of it lately. BZP (1-Benzylpiperazine Hydrochloride ) is also an alternative to cocaine. Effect onset within an hr and last for 4 - 6 hrs TMFPP [1-(3-Triflouromethylphenyl)-Piperazine] From Lycaeum.org Mild, pleasant, and mellow. Substances: TFMPP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Substance: TMFPP Dosage: about 100mg Duration: 2-3 hours plus tail Around 12:30 on a nice day I ( a purely fictional "I" ) decided to try this substance of which I could find exactly two quotations on all of the WWW - a little snippet in Shulgin's PiHKAL (in the section on PEA) and one, single, measly trip-report... So I dropped some of it onto a sugar-cube and ingested it. It is liquid at room-temperature, and at least with my eye-dropper, one drop came out to be between 20 and 25mg -- four drops made 87mg and with a little nudging I managed to get a half-drop onto the cube for a total of 102mg (yes, my scale is that good). This was ingested around 12:45. I made the mistake of taking the "sublingual"-stance too literally and held the cube in my mouth for a minute or two -- for twenty minutes or so afterard my mouth was essentially numb. The substance seems highly caustic and swallowing it in a gel-cap with a glass of water probably would've been a cleverer way of ingestion. Alert at 30min, peak after about an hour. Lasts for two or three hours, then decline. The general impression was that of a mild, pleasant, mellow trippyness. Thoughts flowing freely, but nothing that would "whack me over the head". Full control over everything at all times. OEVs present but borderline (requiring concentration). CEVs mild, pleasant, unspectacular. Call it half a hit of LSD. Contrary to what I had read, there was no jaw-clenching or speedy impression. Actually, a light tremor in my hands was the only peripheral effect I could detect. I didn't even have dilated pupils. In the evening, I went to bed around my usual time (11pm or so) and had no trouble falling asleep -- if anything, I felt exhausted from the activity in my brain. I'd rate this as between "+" and "++" on the Shulgin-scale and maybe "2" on Graeme Carl's scale. Maybe I'm a hardened bastard -- but this whole experience left me utterly unimpressed. I will try this again at higher dosages. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By.... [This message has been edited by e-tarded (edited 01-04-2001).]

I was in the hospital cause of the same pill. I must of posted everywhere about what happened to me. I know Yellow CK's are 90% meth. Kitty19 you basically said it all. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

Stick to the the energy drinks. They are the best fluids to intake when you are rolling. Screw the OJ or bulldog. I mean they are fine to drink but if you are worried bout your body, drink a sports drink. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

NO !!! not lots of water. If you are dancing you want to take at least 8 ounces of fluid per hr. A sports drink is much better then water or OJ or anything actually. It helps to replenish the electrolytes in your body, and it does not deplenish the sodium levels. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

uhh no it was meth i had them tested. I definitely know the difference between DXM and meth. Yeah my heart almost exploding, sounds like dmx too me. DXM would not keep people up for days. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By.... [This message has been edited by e-tarded (edited 01-03-2001).]

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Find people that are willing to hand out flyers for comps or for like 20 bucks. There is always someone willing to do it. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

Clovers are usually made of DXM. I would be careful taking those. I haven't seen a good clover in a while. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

Welcome to the forum and Happy <A HREF="http://www.clubplanet.com/newyearseve/">New Year</a> . This kind of partying has always been around, just a little more hidden ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

everclear Pure grain alcohol. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

I love whippits when I am cracked out on E. Mostly on the come down though. When the effects of mdxx are starting to wear off thats when I hit the whippits. Dangerous any combo can be dangerous it all depends how much you do. Remeber whippits are starving the brain of oxygen. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

I wouldnt worry bout flushing your system. Since pure mdxx has a half life of 6hrs in the body. So after 6hrs there would be less then .01 % of the drug in your system. Not enough to be detected. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

I am feeling kinda of lazy but do a search in this Forum for 5HTP there are a few good threads on that, basically you are looking for 5HTP. I would read the other threads though. Lot of good information in them. I am too lazy to cut and paste today. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

Yeah but what if they sell out then some people are screwed. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

e will last a lifetime ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

I am always at a Rave. Big Love was good, Beyond 2000 is going to be better ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

What kind of stars. I have had Chinese Stars and another one called porn stars. Both were double stacked and both kicked my ass. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

I forget where I found this article, but it's one of the best I have ever seen. Also one of the most thorough. I have added some corrections and adjusted the dosages on the vitamins. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

There are at least 3 known systems involved in the effects of psychedelic amphetamines: 1.Serotonergic (Serotonin the mind chemical) some effect on stomach/Gi upset ect. Mostly effects mood and thought 5HTryptophan supplementation before and after is helpfull. Some find taking 5HT just before rolling softens blow up. Others feel it makes it harder. Only you wil know by experimentation. Start with 100mg up to 500mg Safest way is to use with food days before hand. Plan ahead 2.Dopaminergic This is the energy system and creates euphoria. The amino acid L-tyrosine or the newer N-Acetyl Tyrosine are pre cursors to dopamine. Wihtout dopamine you will not feel the blow up and high. This is why peeps that only use 5Ht don't get the same results as those that use the full preload. Doses range from 500mg to 2000mg 3.Adrenergic Adrenaline and Nor adrenaline are neuro's that make you ready to run. They create that scared feeling when you are stressed like when the cop's lights come on from behind ;(. It is a speedy chemical and helps give you energy but in a different way than dopamine. The amino acid D-L Phenylalanine replaces or maximizes this neuro. Doses range from 500mg to 2000mg. Last but not least you can take L-Glutamine an aminoi acid that protects the body from losing lean tissue when stressed and acts as an excitatory neuro. Do not confuse this with glutamate the toxic meatbolite. 500mg to 2000mg daily. St. John's Wort. This natural MAO inhibitors action is unclear but will extend the life of psychedelic drugs. Like betacarbolines used by native the hypericin acts to disable the systems involved in reducing the serotonin levels as well as other sub neuro's. Vitamin C is a good anti oxidant but probably has no effect either way except to increase solubility of other nutrients because it is an acid. Old acid heads swear that it improves trippy but then again the hippes did some weird shit based on intution rather than science,just as some scientist based too much faith in research rather than intuition It's your call. You should take it for the health of it. A minimum of 1000mg daiy tripping or not. B-6 will help nerve trans and actions of the above. Post-load 1 5-HTP 200mg 2 Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg 3 Anti-oxidant multis 2 Multi-vitamins 3 Milk Thistle 175mg 2 Melatonin 3mg 1 Kava Kava 1000mg Daily Taken with meal. 2 Multi-vitamins 2 Multi-minerals 1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg 2 Anti-oxidant multis 2 Milk Thistle 175mg One of the most important parts is to pre-load with Alpha Lipoic Acid. Another study showed that this also eliminated brain damage from E in rats. (link below). Alpha Lipoic Acid is a very strong anti-oxidant, and taking it in conjunction with an anti-oxidant multiple (containing at least Vitamins C, E, & A) makes it even more effective. A high dose (600mg) is safe and very effective. Milk Thistle is also an anti-oxidant that helps the liver, and thus is an excellent post-load, since you’ve been exposed to many environmental toxins at raves and clubs. Of course, daily multi-vitamins help to maintain health. Pre-loading with them ensures your body has all it needs to function at its peak. Magnesium helps stop jaw clenching. 1000mg is very effective. 5-htp is the direct precursor to serotonin. Preloading with this helps because, as the E is dumping out your serotonin, 5-htp is replacing it. This will definitely make you roll longer (probably not harder), and it can possibly help prevent brain damage, since your serotonin supply might not completely run out, although this is theoretical and has not been proven. You must supplement a big dose of B-6 (around 6000% of suggested daily dose) as well as some vitamin C (around 2000% of suggested daily dose) at the time you take 5-htp to ensure it converts to serotonin. Don’t worry, these vitamins are water soluble and big doses won’t hurt you. Some people report stomach upset with 5-htp, so you may not be able to take very much. Finally, Kava Kava and Melatonin will help you sleep. Taking the post-load with fruit juice and fruit rolls helps get some calories back into the body after you’ve been depleted. It’s often difficult to eat afterwards, but fruit rolls seem to go down pretty well. Or any sort of fruit or fruit product is good. Some people recommend protein shakes. I try to drink and eat at least 500 calories before I go to bed, this seems to help a lot. Here are some links, as well as some outtakes from some of the pages: Prozac links: http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/index.html (You MUST watch this slide show if you haven’t already, it’s very enlightening.) Prozac Prevents MDMA Neurotoxicity in Animals A number of studies have shown that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) like Prozac prevent MDMA's neurotoxic effect. The theory as to why this happens is this: SSRIs plug the reuptake transporters, thus preventing dopamine from getting into the serotonin axon terminal (see the previous slide). Notice that the prozac fits pefectly into the transporter. Researchers refer to this as "affinity" and say that prozac has a greater affinity for the uptake transporter than other things in the synapse, including serotonin. In other words, Prozac will bind to the transporter first. It will also stay there for a relatively long time. Prozac has a half-life of 30 hours, which means it takes 30 hours for half of it to leave your body, another 30 hours for half of what's left to leave, etc. It is thus called a "long-acting" SSRI. It plugs the transporters for a longer period of time than the other common SSRIs do. Research has shown that brain serotonin levels remain significantly depleted for approximately 24 hours after a lage dose of MDMA. It is during this time period (beween 6 and 24 hours after dosing) that the brain's serotonin transporters are left empty and vulnerable, and it is during this time that the neurotoxic damage occurs. This means Prozac may be more effective at preventing MDMA neurotoxicity than other SSRIs, which do not last as long in the body (although this is unknown). An important observation in these studies was that prozac prevented the neurotoxic damage even when given up to six hours after the MDMA. What they did was inject all the animals with MDMA, and then every hour they gave some of them an injection of Prozac. Only the animals who got the Prozac during the first six hours showed no damage. The ones who got the Prozac on the seventh, eighth, ninth and tenth hours (etc.) sustained damage, with the ones who got the prozac later sustaining more. What about in humans? While no studies have been done to assess the effectiveness of Prozac as a neuro-protective agent against MDMA neurotoxicity in humans, there is no reason to suspect that human brains react differently than animal brains in this regard. http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v04n3/04304neu.html Animal research has shown that combining the prescription drug Prozac with MDMA prevents neurotoxicity, even when Prozac is taken up to six hours after the MDMA. This works because Prozac binds to the same serotonin re-uptake sites which can be damaged by MDMA metabolites (though only when MDMA is administered at doses higher than the standard therapeutic or non-medical amount). The presence of Prozac at the re-uptake sites prevents the neurotoxic MDMA metabolites from binding, eliminating its potential effect on the re-uptake sites. http://mdma.net/protect.htm The FLUOX (Prozac) pretreatment protected against MDMA-induced 5-HT and 5-hydroxindole acetic acid depletions in the frontal cortex, somatosensory cortex, striatum and hippocampus. http://mdma.net/mdmafluox.html These results support previous findings that fluoxetine (Prozac) protects against (+/-)-MDMA-induced 5-HT (serotonin) depletion. http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v01n3/01305neu.html The simultaneous administration of Prozac and MDMA completely blocked the neurotoxic properties of MDMA. This finding may be the key to unlocking the door to FDA-approved human studies with MDMA, since it seems possible that the MDMA neurotoxicity risk, difficult to estimate, can instead be entirely eliminated. Alpha Lipioc Acid links: http://www.mdma.net/alphalip.html Repeated administration of the metabolic antioxidant alpha-lipoic acid (100 mg/kg, i.p., b.i.d. for 2 consecutive days) 30 min prior to MDMA did not prevent the acute hyperthermia induced by the drug; however, it fully prevented the serotonergic deficits and the changes in the glial response induced by MDMA. These results further support the hypothesis that free radical formation is responsible for MDMA-induced neurotoxicity. http://www.gnc.com/wellness/natpharm/Supp/Alpha_Lipoic_Acid-F.htm Alpha lipoic acid is a vitamin-like antioxident. Alpha lipoic acid is sometimes referred to as the “universal antioxidant,” because it is soluble in both fat and water. Anti-Oxident (Vitamins C, E, A, etc. See this link for complete list) link: http://www.gnc.com/wellness/natpharm/Diet/Antioxidants-F.htm Reducing exposure to free radicals and increasing intake of antioxidant nutrients can reduce the risk of free radical-related health problems. (such as MDMA neurotoxicity) Milk Thistle link: http://www.hcrc.org/faqs/milkthis.html 5-htp links: http://www.mindspring.com/~herbshop/5htpfact.htm http://www.smart-publications.com/5-htpbook.html Grapefruit Juice link: http://www.media.wayne.edu/iws.back.issues/iws3_6_97/grapefruit.html Good link for info on nearly all nutritional supplements: http://www.gnc.com/wellness/natpharm/Index/SuppX-F.htm Buy your Prozac legally and without a prescription at: http://www.smart-drugs.com/ Buy your nutritional supplements from such stores as: http://www.iherb.com/ http://www.mothernature.com/ http://www.drugstore.com/ http://www.planetrx.com/ ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

Please keep these type of questions in privates messages or emails. By asking these questions your bring the board into a grey area regarding legality ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

THC is a fat soluble chemical. Which means its stored in the fat cells of your body. THC can be detected upto 45 days. Depending on your employer and how uptight they are, having a friend pee for you wont work. After you take a urine test, they stick a thermometer in the cup to check for tempature. There are ways around this but I dont know if you really want to go through all that trouble. There are a few sites on the net that claim to be able to help with passing drug tests. The biggest one is www.passyourdrugtest.com . They have some useful information. I also think there may be some other threads in this forum on passing your test. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

yeah probably i have never heard anything bad about stars ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

Just wanted to wish everyone a safe and Happy Holiday ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....

I have never tried mixing alcohol with ephedrine. So I really have no idea of the effects, but one is a depressant and the other is a stimulant. ------------------ ~*P*L*U*R*~ Four Simple Words To Live By....