wow, harsh, but basically the message yes, i suppose there was no nice way to do it you fella's need to understand when a woman wants space, she means it, end of story I realize that i have no right to be critical of any person, and if i have the problem then NO CHANGE or PRESSURE on your part will change her mind, it's over it's really over sometimes, women just have issues we need to handle on our own i just wasn't feelin it anymore dammit, i knew i should not have started a relationship i c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e-l-y was not ready thanks guys for the advice F0xy