i got into the rave scene in the beginning of the year... all i went to were raves and my first experience at a club was at PVD's 1 year anniversary at Twilo. I went cuz my friends who are into techno/rave music were all clubbers and they heavily suggested that i do myself a favor and check out PVD. I LOVED the music! and no, i was completley sober that night cuz i had misplaced my pill earlier in the night haha... but the one thing i did hate, was the way so many people were just sitting on the ground and on the steps taking up valuble dancing space.. lately i've been to exit a couple of times since my friends were telling me how big the place was... and what i saw was that no matter whether ur at a club or a rave, theres always gonna be ppl there who paid $20-30 to go to a place to drop and do nothing but roll... i figure if thats ur main intention to go out, u might as well call a couple of ur friends, turn on a CD, and just chill out... that way i'll have more space to dance heheh ... btw, whats so bad about ravers and glowstix anyways? cant all u clubbers and ravers get along? =)