found out Im gettin the new ones for xmas!!! these are the updated release black 1200's (not 1210's) that came out in 2000 (no, theres nothing different but the color) one is in pristine condition, immaculate the other needs to have the right output wire mended, its in working order, but could use a new one for sure. other than that, deck 2 is perfect. complete with 2 untouched dustcovers(is i can find the boxes...hehehehe) these are a lil over 3 years old, unaltered, and used for mostly home use, not too many hours on them at all. BEST OFFER (lets be reasonable, we all know how these are) joshua@djjoshuacarl.com