I take it back, crobar is not the only good place in chicago. I have to add that redno5, the fifth floor, and transit on fri are decent too. As for the clubs you mentioned, they suck, theyre for stuck up dorks like you tommy As far as being spolied i dont think so, i just think that since nyc is much bigger then chitown, we have more ppl that are into it therefore clubs can afford bigname djs. I mean pvd was at crobar and the place was full but nothing like when you go see him @twilo. Places like whitestar give chicago bad name [This message has been edited by diesel77 (edited 11-16-2000).]