I see that being a newbie you are trying to start some drama on the message boards. But unfortunately you will realize that NY is where the drama is. You just won't get people going here. That said, you're right Guvernment is the the shit, anyone who has been to it will agree, it is one of the best clubs in the world. I myself have been to both Twilo and the Guvernment and the soundsystem at Guvvie is way better than Twilo, everyone goes on about how good the system is at Twilo, well it is, until you experience The Guverment. But if I had to choose whether to be at Guvernment on a Sat night or Twilo, it would definitely be Twilo. You can't beat the crowd or the DJ line up, and it is NYC. Oh, as for Mark Oliver, he is just getting a bit too commercial. We so many more DJ's that are more talented than Mr Oliver.