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  1. Dude you the one bringing up the suicide biombings? Truth hurts man.. The Jews are not as innocent as the US potrays them!
  2. Dude do your jewish friends over there tell you how Irsial soldiers walk into palistine terotories and kill families or do they just tell you what to media does, everything they WANT you to hear..
  3. The isrial military just marches into cities and sloughters families. Thats right. You are a fuckin Retart... Suicide bombings are wrong but marching into someones home and killing them or holding them prisoners in there own homes? Thats right?
  4. Dude im not relogious? Religion starts wars.. Why do we need Isrieal, At least we get oils from the Arab states what does Isreal bring to the table?
  5. The truth is that none of us really know what is going on over there and you cant belive what u see on the TV. What the facks are is that we do give isrial 3 Billion a year to build up there military which has almost surpased ours, and it comes out of our checks. What does the US get for its giving to Isrial..Hmm They get 80 of the world population hating the USA. You get greedy sharone who dont even listen to what bush says when he tells them to pull out? Sorry but we paid for that high hoarse that sharone rode in on and then tanks that dystroyed everything palistine built? 9-11 happen cuz our support for Isrial..FACT
  6. The truth is that none of us really know what is going on over there and you cant belive what u see on the TV. What the facks are is that we do give isrial 3 Billion a year to build up there military which has almost surpased ours, and it comes out of our checks. What does the US get for its giving to Isrial..Hmm They get 80 of the world population hating the USA. You get greedy sharone who dont even listen to what bush says when he tells them to pull out? Sorry but we paid for that high hoarse that sharone rode in on and then tanks that dystroyed everything palistine built? 9-11 happen cuz our support for Isrial..FACT
  7. The truth is that none of us really know what is going on over there and you cant belive what u see on the TV. What the facks are is that we do give isrial 3 Billion a year to build up there military which has almost surpased ours, and it comes out of our checks. What does the US get for its giving to Isrial..Hmm They get 80 of the world population hating the USA. You get greedy sharone who dont even listen to what bush says when he tells them to pull out? Sorry but we paid for that high hoarse that sharone rode in on and then tanks that dystroyed everything palistine built? 9-11 happen cuz our support for Isrial..FACT
  8. You also know why the check got thrown in his face? Cuz he spoke the truth and said that if we dont change our forign policies this will not be the end of it and gullian being the jew he is didnt really like hearing the truth so threw the loot back!!
  9. i JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE more thing. To the person that said this does not concern you, you are wrong.. Sept 11th happen cuz our SUPPORT OF ISRIAL. Do u pay taxes? Well do you know about 8 million tax dollars a DAY go to Isrial so they can build up there military and kill inocent palisines? 3 Billion a year and we get the shit end of the stick. So to all those that say it dont concern you think again?
  10. If your cathlic then the US media sure did do a good job brainwashing you with there properganda..
  11. Dude read up on Sharones history B4 making statements u hypocrite... you guys need to quit relying on the wonderful news provided by US media, try reading BBC, or other international media and you'll find that Israel has killed many many more "innocent" people then palestinains have. Im not thinking particularly clearly at this time, so ill wait till tomorrow to see if i need to post more stuff, but if you guys are talking about "terrorists" and how Yasser Arafat and Palestinians are terrorists, then you need to look at Sharon... In 1982 the Israelis invaded Lebanon and murdered 17,500 people. During the Israeli occupation, Ariel Sharon was the primary authority behind the massacres at the Shatilla and Sabra refugee camps in which over 1000 helpless Palestinian children, women and civilian men were murdered in cold blood by Lebanese Christians. And of course Ariel Sharon is now the Israeli Prime Minister. Ariel Sharon was born in Palestine in 1928, when it was a British mandate. As a young man he joined the Jewish underground military organisation Haganah and fought in the Arab-Israeli war in 1948-49 after the creation of the Jewish state. In the 1950s he led a number of punitive military operations against Egyptian military units stationed in the Gaza Strip - one incident in 1955 resulting in the deaths of 38 Egyptian troops. Mr Sharon rose to the rank of brigadier general and commanded a division during the Six Day war of June 1967 in which Israel captured East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The harsh occupation measures that he enforced there gave many Palestinians their first taste of a man who has become their sworn enemy. First elected to parliament in 1977, Mr Sharon masterminded Israel's disastrous invasion of Lebanon in 1982. As defence minister, and without explicitly telling Prime Minister Menachem Begin, he sent the Israeli army all the way to Beirut, a strike which ended in the expulsion of Yasser Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) from Lebanon. The move stopped the PLO using Lebanon to launch attacks against Israel, but also resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Palestinians by Lebanese Christian militiamen in two Beirut refugee camps under Israeli control. Mr Sharon was removed from office in 1983 by an Israeli tribunal investigating the 1982 Lebanon invasion, finding him indirectly responsible for the killings. Why the Palestinians rejected the Camp David Peace Proposal For a true and lasting peace between the Israeli and Palestinian peoples, there must be two viable and independent states living as equal neighbors. Israel's Camp David proposal, which was never set forth in writing, denied the Palestinian state viability and independence by dividing Palestinian territory into four separate cantons entirely surrounded, and therefore controlled, by Israel. The Camp David proposal also denied Palestinians control over their own borders, airspace and water resources while legitimizing and expanding illegal Israeli colonies in Palestinian territory. Israel's Camp David proposal presented a 're-packaging' of military occupation, not an end to military occupation. Israel's proposal divided Palestine into four separate cantons surrounded by Israel: the Northern West Bank, the Central West Bank, the Southern West Bank and Gaza. Going from any one area to another would require crossing Israeli sovereign territory and consequently subject movement of Palestinians within their own country to Israeli control. Not only would such restrictions apply to the movement of people, but also to the movement of goods, in effect subjecting the Palestinian economy to Israeli control. Lastly, the Camp David proposal would have left Israel in control over all Palestinian borders thereby allowing Israel to control not only internal movement of people and goods but international movement as well. Such a Palestinian state would have had less sovereignty and viability than the Bantustans created by the South African apartheid government. Why didn't the Palestinians ever present a comprehensive permanent settlement proposal of their own in response to Barak's proposals? The comprehensive settlement to the conflict is embodied in United Nations Resolutions 242 and 338, as was accepted by both sides at the Madrid Summit in 1991 and later in the Oslo Accords of 1993. The purpose of the negotiations is to implement these UN resolutions (which call for an Israeli withdrawal from land occupied by force by Israel in 1967) and reach agreement on final status issues. On a number of occasions since Camp David - especially at the Taba talks - the Palestinian negotiating team presented its concept for the resolution of the key permanent status issues. It is important to keep in mind, however, that Israel and the Palestinians are differently situated. Israel seeks broad concessions from the Palestinians: it wants to annex Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem; obtain rights to Palestinian water resources in the West Bank; maintain military locations on Palestinian soil; and deny the Palestinian refugees' their right of return. Israel has not offered a single concession involving its own territory and rights. The Palestinians, on the other hand, seek to establish a viable, sovereign State on their own territory, to provide for the withdrawal of Israeli military forces and colonies (which are universally recognized as illegal), and to secure the right of Palestinian refugees to return to the homes they were forced to flee in 1948. Although Palestinian negotiators have been willing to accommodate legitimate Israeli needs within that context, particularly with respect to security and refugees, it is up to Israel to define these needs and to suggest the narrowest possible means of addressing them. Why did the peace process fall apart just as it was making real progress toward a permanent agreement? Palestinians entered the peace process on the understanding that (1) it would deliver concrete improvements to their lives during the interim period, (2) that the interim period would be relatively short in duration - i.e., five years, and (3) that a permanent agreement would implement United Nations Resolutions 242 and 338. But the peace process delivered none of these things. Instead, Palestinians suffered more burdensome restrictions on their movement and a serious decline in their economic situation. Israeli colonies expanded at an unprecedented pace and the West Bank and Gaza Strip became more fragmented with the construction of settler "by-pass" roads and the proliferation of Israeli military checkpoints. Deadlines were repeatedly missed in the implementation of agreements. In sum, Palestinians simply did not experience any "progress" in terms of their daily lives. However, what decisively undermined Palestinian support for the peace process was the way Israel presented its proposal. Prior to entering into the first negotiations on permanent status issues, Prime Minister Barak publicly and repeatedly threatened Palestinians that his "offer" would be Israel's best and final offer and if not accepted, Israel would seriously consider "unilateral separation" (a euphemism for imposing a settlement rather than negotiating one). Palestinians felt that they had been betrayed by Israel who had committed itself at the beginning of the Oslo process to ending its occupation of Palestinian lands in accordance with UN Resolutions 242 and 338. And for those that say Palestinians dont want peace or they dont want to compromise Palestinians recognized Israel's right to exist in 1988 and re-iterated this recognition on several occasions including Madrid in 1991 and the Oslo Accords in September, 1993. Nevertheless, Israel has yet to explicitly and formally recognize Palestine's right to exist. The Palestinian people waited patiently since the Madrid Conference in 1991 for their freedom and independence despite Israel's incessant policy of creating facts on the ground by building colonies in occupied territory (Israeli housing units in Occupied Palestinian Territory - not including East Jerusalem - increased by 52% since the signing of the Oslo Accords and the settler population, including those in East Jerusalem, more than doubled). The Palestinians do indeed wish to live at peace with Israel but peace with Israel must be a fair peace - not an unfair peace imposed by a stronger party over a weaker party. The Palestinians have indeed compromised. In the Oslo Accords, the Palestinians recognized Israeli sovereignty over 78% of historic Palestine (23% more than Israel was granted pursuant to the 1947 UN partition plan) on the assumption that the Palestinians would be able to exercise sovereignty over the remaining 22%. The overwhelming majority of Palestinians accepted this compromise but this extremely generous compromise was ignored at Camp David and the Palestinians were asked to "compromise the compromise" and make further concessions in favor of Israel. Though the Palestinians can continue to make compromises, no people can be expected to compromise fundamental rights or the viability of their state.
  12. Yeah but its OK for the JEws to just take palistines land away and kill people?> Its ok that Isrial just walks in a refugee camp and commits war crimes agains people in there own country? Its Ok to Give Isrial 3 BILLION a year to kill innocent people, but when one sucide bomber kills 2 peopel you go nuts? The jews made the palistine suffer far more then the jew ever suffored and that fair?
  13. I actully met some guy in the city named Dimitry back in 97 to pick up some goods and he told me bout it. He said he started it when it was called Clubnyc.com? Anyone know of a dimitry he used to live midtown. somewhere in the 50's i think./..
  14. Dude last time I went to Exit on Friday when Draper spun There where Asians spraled out drooling and buggin out all over each other it was Nasty.. The same bass line all night long the only phat song he threw down was a phat remix of dessert miss the rain other then that sucked..... Danny spins shit u never heard before and prolly never will in awile till he throws it down agin..
  15. Weed stimulates the MIND...
  16. Should have read the whole post b4 responding.,
  17. I used to Flip a Iron over and get it standing by putting shoes on both side of the Iron while its flipped over and place a Pyrax Glass cooking thing on it and did it that way. Was Quick and GOOOOOOOD/...
  18. The biggest DRUG of choice is "MUSIC"
  19. stonedcl

    Oxy's

    Happy B-day.. ROMY hook a brotha up... I'll trade some grade A treez for some oxy's..
  20. This guy has to be Asian.. Exit is the WORST club I have ever been at!! Tunnel 97-97 at 5 AM you could not move.. Danny plays something diff every time u listen like candy to the ears, you dont know what he will sample spin while draper drops the same shit all the time!
  21. Club Scean SUX real bad right now, The only club that got heart is Vinyl but they dont serve liq's I say we all start calling and fucking with her!
  22. If the guy that owns Exit owns Limelight then addmission is gonna be like $50.00
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