kaligirl

Well I guess we all just have t word it our own way ya know. At least there is someone who agrees with me.

So your going to fault the guy for wanting to make money? He is very much respected as an underground rapper and now as a mainstram rapper. The guy has albums out in the streets that will never be mainstream. 50's whole deal is wanting to be respected on the streets and as a mainstream rapper. I think he has achieved that and deserves to be where he is at right now. As for all the other guys you have listed you can't compare them. Most of the people you mentioned have not had an album out in how long? The rap game has changed since say KRS One, Rakim, Wu ect came out. Times have changed!! So really I don't know what you are trying to get at here.

Thats exactly what my experience was. It sucked so bad that I was wondering why the hell everyone was doing it. Needless to say it was 1 1/2 years later before I ever did it again.

My logic is fine, I think people are just misunderstanding what I was asking. You can compare them, thats not a question. I was simply asking for people to give me names of rappers (mainstream) that had albums out right now that could fuck with 50's. I didn't just want people to say Eminem. Thats all!! Geezzzz!!!

Damm why do you have to be so technical? Yes we all know Eminem is 10 times better than 50. Ahh whatever. You get the point I was trying to make. I meant retiring from making albums, not everything else.

My dad is coming to town this weekend so I don't know if I'll be able to. I'll let ya know though.

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Definatly not in love. I was 16, I was with a guy who was a professional skateboarder for only about 6 months before we did it. As he was a professional skateboarder there were always girls after him. I guess me being young and stupid I let him talk me into it. He used that to his advantage because I knew if I didn't do it then he would be doing it with some other girl. I don't regret it though. It was a learning experience in more ways than one.

Uhh because Eminem is the one who put him on. There is no reason to compare the two. And from I gathered from the interview was that Jay-Z was done putting out albums. So hence "retiring" from that. He said he might do other stuff, but he didn't know yet.

I agree. But there is no one that has an album out RIGHT NOW "mainstream" as we speak that comes close to 50. Am I wrong??

I should have made myself clear on what I was asking. I definatly agree with you on the above. No doubt about it. I was really asking about anyone mainstream. Cause I really can't think of anyone.

Obviously some people here have never even heard the albums he only put out on the street. I mean really, there is no one out there right now that comes close to him. Can any of you haters name someone? And Eminem dosen't count. And on a side note. Did anyone else hear Jay-Z on hot 97 the other day saying he was retiring? Its about time, he fell off awhile ago.

Uhhh not true.

I was refering to the use of the words. Joeg was saying when they are used in the wrong context. I was stating there is no correct or incorrect way to use them. They are "slang" words. Yes overuse of the word makes the word played but I wouldn't go so far to say that overuse is inapproiate.

What I don't understand is how can these "catch phrases" be used in an inapproiate context? These words are made up, so who is to say was is approiate and not approiate ways to use them.

I thought she was saying that she can go ahead and swallow because she is on the pill and she wouldn't be able to get pregnant. Am I the only one who thought this??

I honestly don't think anyone in NY could ever throw a party like this one. This rave was amazing, I really can't describe the experience but it was one I will remember for the rest of my life.

I know. But hey you are right there with me:

All this talk about Tony Draper and raves brought back memories from the first rave I went to in 1994. I found this paper someone wrote describing the rave. And yes there really were 6,000 people there. Its a long one, but this is what a real rave is all about! Date: 24 Aug 1994 02:00:15 -0700 Ravers, club kids, bikers, and hippies all gathered together under the full moon at NARNIA '94: The Festival of Life last Saturday night. At it's peak hour, the event boasted a turnout of 6000. Near 11 p.m. the event organizers called for a moment of silence to celebrate the will to peace, love and life as a conch shell signaled the call to unity. The possibility of our strength as a vital force in a society that has gone very wrong was invoked and representatives of every ethnicity and sexual orientation proved that hate is something more constructed by the culture we all left behind when we assembled there at the Las Palmas reservation. The positive energy went beyond rhetoric and was as tangible as the music. This was ancient land we were on, and you'd be hard pressed to find someone that didn't feel blessed to be there. "This isn't Woodstock '94," the event organizers said. "Those people already sold their souls. This is an event put together by humans, not Pepsi. And tonight we're not moving for anyone, I don't care who comes. We're 6,000 strong!" I've been to my share of Acid House parties and Raves since '88 and this was no desperate attempt at unity through dance, this was the real thing, effortless, organic, and powerful. Club kids navigated the sand dunes in 12-inch platforms. Performance arts groups started bonfires on the small hills surrounding the main circle. The ambient area resembled a Hindu funeral pyre on the Ganges -- a small canal ended there where some took an occasional swim. A reservation family pulled their truck on the hillside, lit a fire, and sold tamales. An RV served as a second live act stage on the other side of one of the dunes. The first live stage was another dune over. Lasers bounced off nearby mountains. The main stage was set up like an amalgam of temples past and future mixing real gongs, ancient instruments and psychedelic day-glo detailing. Robos were set atop huge torch fixtures and projected off the surrounding dunes. Live drummers played along with some of the DJs. In an impressive act of meditation, a single man in full biker armor wandered near the front of the stage and stood without moving a muscle in the center of the celebration for its 10-hour duration. The Zen significance of this act left impressions on everyone who watched him over the course of the evening, who decorated him with flyers, screamed at him, pleaded, argued, and stared into his sunglasses. It wasn't until the final communal hug, which included all who still remained at 7 a.m., that the lone biker of the apocalypse moved. He got up on stage and started reciting the ZIPPY Pronoia doctrine, how one never knows who is watching you, who is conspiring against you. Amazing. On the other side of the main circle was a "global village" made up of hundreds of tents and vendors, as well as the Tribal Zulu Tiki Hut where DJ Afrika Islam kicked rare groove and hip hop cuts most of the night. In the main circle, Dmitry kept people moving for a good two hours after sunrise when the party ended a little early per request of the tribe, who probably didn't understand the full scope of what they were getting into when the space was booked. Unfortunately, many of the people at Narnia left an embarrassing collection of trash for event organizers to clean up, both at the campground and along the five mile road leading from the highway to the site. A single negative point to the evening, it suggested just how far we ourselves have to come in dispensing with the apathy of our own culture when we can't even be responsible for our own water bottles and Taco Bell bags -- especially on a reservation. But the overwhelming success of NARNIA left little else to be improved upon. No, rave is 'not' dead in Southern California, as reports on the net have been heralding for the past year or more. Contrarily, it is events such as these that breath new life into the scene, taking it out of the urban decay from which it once thrived. A combination of nature and technology, new and old spiritualism is perhaps the mix that has always worked best in the underground, and somehow forgotten of late in lieu of its depersonalization. When 6,000 people stop dancing and breath together to the sound of gongs and bells, there is an undeniable life energy that is released without effort, and recaptured through the dance when the beat kicks back in as if it were the combination of all heartbeats, when the 303 gets right down in your spine and twists like the kundalini itself, when the diva sings like a middle-eastern goddess transplanted in the American soul. And we are all here, now, taking it all in. Thanks to all who put NARNIA together. It was a privilege and a pleasure to be one of the blessed in attendance. -Michael Pisano

The ban in Nassau county did take effect midnight on Friday night. I went to TJI Fridays on Sunday and sure enough all the smokers were outside smoking. I really don't know how the business owners in the city are going to enforce this one, especially the clubs???? But I did hear that the owners have the right to refuse service and throw people out if they light up inside.

Hey you!!! How's your new job and everything going??

I have been broke as hell. Having my cable cut off, phone cut off, almost had my car repoed. Almost getting the gas and electric cut off. Oh and feeding my dog corn flakes cause I didn't have money to buy doggie food. Now that is broke!!!!!!!!!!! Thank god that was like 8 years ago.

Fatin'ma Bhutti.

I am going to address you out in the open as well. This is a message board. People post about things that they have heard all the time. This is not something new. Specultaion is going to happen in cases like this. I just don't understand why "managment" like you said is so concerned about what people are talking about on a message board. If that was the case then why did you not come here when all this first happened and post some information of your own. I think that this would have eliminated this problem don't you. Didn't you think that possibly people were going to talk about this???

The investigation has been going on for a long time now. We have no idea what type of evidence they have against anyone. That type of stuff is never disclosed. So its hard to say what will stick and what won't.