Xpander, you still haven't proven me to be hypocritical at all or pointed any any contradictions in what i said. Correct i asserted both opinions were equal in "value" and that's what I meant to do. Your conclusion however, is quite erronous. Anyway I'm just sick of people saying they like draper in a thread, then a whole slu of people come in and bash on him. It's quite silly and childish and i believe that these people (You included perhaps) need to work on their/your emotional IQ a little bit. You don't have to go into every thread where someone says they enjoy draper, and then proceed to down talk the man. Do it in your own thread. The debates have gone on millions of time back and forth so what's the point of having another one? Just because some people hate him doesn't mean everyone has to, and your not going to change the peoples mind who like him. REALIZE THAT With that said i'm done with you and this. And trust me Xpander, I am greater than you. gg