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it helps to reduce propoganda spewed from iraq....saddam would be slaughtering his own people and broadcasting the images to the world if there was no media coverage.....i think its great for the world to see our fair treatment of civilians and pow's

its the ugly face of war.....the public was told to mentally prepare for soldiers to die....

Support for going to war with Iraq surged to 71 percent after Bush's nationally televised speech, up from 59 percent a week ago, according to the poll. Nearly two in three -- 64 percent -- approve of the way Bush is handling the confrontation with Iraq, an increase of 9 percentage points in the past eight days. you are in the minority buddy.....but keep on trucking.....free speech and thought is what its all about... how to i unignore you? i clicked that link and now you are ingnored....

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WASHINGTON - Attorney General John Ashcroft has signed an order giving FBI agents and US marshals authority to arrest people on immigration violations, a power that initially will be used to detain several dozen Iraqis suspected of posing a wartime threat. they are breaking the law and are here illegally while we are at war....

i read that there is going to be tens of thousands. is there that many?

oh god....when does it end....

its true that it makes the public feel better about themselves......but it is also true that they will be liberated form saddam.....so i don't really see the deception......what would you name it?

that is true....but there is still a lot to learn by interacting with this board....its definitely a diverse range of opinions and gives a lot of insight into peoples thoughts and emotions....better then reading 90% of the crap that is talked about on the NY board.....

All of the tools from the NY board started talking shit about us? I mean its only about 20 of us who post here on a consistent basis. What a bunch of jackasses.

"We will stay on task until we've achieved our objective, which is to rid Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, and free the Iraqi people so they can live in a society that is hopeful, democratic, and at peace in its neighborhood," Bush said as he met with congressional leaders. What is so flawed in this argument?

In our defense it could be argued that the US does 90% of the fighting in all UN enforcement actions. So being that we are the "police force" we could just go ahead. I also believe that blocking us came down to a lot of other reasons other then morality. Oil contracts, Trade Agreements, and keeping US power in check. Thats probably why the administration went ahead with it. I do agree with you that this has radically altered the structure of world politics. The US has to do this right or we are FUCKED. That I will agree with completly. This war can either be the greatest or worst political move in history. There is no gray area. Black and White.

George Bush has publicly stated time and time again that there is no definitive connection between Iraq and Al Queda. The fear is that if Iraq is allowed to continue its program of WMD's that they will eventually sell or pass on a weapon that will be used against us. Same thing with North Korea. The fear is that they will sell Nuclear Weapons to rogue groups to help preserve their regime. Sounds like a pratical enough argument to me.

Originally posted by jimk29 You know what boggles my mind... how do you know that he has these bombs? Shit, if we know that he does, then why can't we prove it? And why couldn't we tell inspectors where to find them... I am not saying they definitely don't, it is in fact quite possible they do. But do you see my point? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it boggles my mind that someone could even think that he might not have WMD's.... no one has made the argument that he does not....even france, russia, germany, and china will agree that he is in possesion of these weapons...

Peace only came about in the event that Iraq would immediately and fully disarm after the Gulf war. That did not happen. This is the result. Funny how people never focus on the fact that Saddam brought this upon himself. Whats going to be even more funny is seeing Iraqis dancing in the streets with open arms. How are you going to feel when you were fighting tooth and nail to let them remain under a repressive leader? A leader that has brought 2 wars in 2 decades. A leader that has killed more muslims then any other person in history. Your beliefs are twisted and tiresome. Liberation and getting rid of WMD's is a just and worth cause....

No.... The 7 Scud missles are in violation of the UN resolution....He did not declare those....What makes you think he is going to tell the truth about WMD's.... Not to mention he has ZERO control of his communication with his field commanders.....They did not even know that we were in control of southern Iraq..... Saddams regime is over....

The Marine Officer Oath of Office I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. These people are sacrificing themselves for something greater then any one person. They are true warriors.

STUPID....JUST PLAIN STUPID.... Protesters raise their red-painted hands outside the U.S. Consulate in the northern port city of Thessaloniki, Greece, Friday, March 21, 2003. More than 60,000 people took part in a march against the U.S.-led war against Iraq (news - web sites). A four-hour nationwide strike called in opposition to the war brought Greece to a standstill. Schools and universities closed to allow students to protest. (AP Photo/Nikolas Giakoumidis)

LOSERS, MISFITS, AND A FEW REJECTS

SADDAM IS DONE.....

JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG!!!! 'Saddam Is Done,' Marines Exult in Captured Town Friday, March 21, 2003 SAWFAN, Iraq — U.S. Marines hauled down giant street portraits of Saddam Hussein in a screeching pop of metal and bolts Friday, telling nervous residents of this southern Iraqi town that "Saddam is done." Milling crowds of men and boys watched as the Marines attached ropes on the front of their Jeeps to one portrait and then backed up, peeling the Iraqi leader's black-and-white metal image off a frame. Some locals briefly joined Maj. David "Bull" Gurfein in a new cheer. "Iraqis! Iraqis! Iraqis!" Gurfein yelled, pumping his fist in the air. "We wanted to send a message that Saddam is done," said Gurfein, a New York native in the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force. "People are scared to show a lot of emotion. That's why we wanted to show them this time we're here, and Saddam is done." The Marines arrived in Safwan, just across the Kuwait border, after Cobra attack helicopters, attack jets, tanks, 155 mm howitzers and sharpshooters cleared the way along Route 80, the main road into Iraq. Safwan, 375 miles south of Baghdad, is a poor, dirty, wrecked town pocked by shrapnel from the last Gulf war. Iraqi forces in the area sporadically fired mortars and guns for hours Thursday and Friday. Most townspeople hid, although residents brought forth a wounded little girl, her palm bleeding after the new fighting. Another man said his wife was shot in the leg by the Americans. A few men and boys ventured out, putting makeshift white flags on their pickup trucks or waving white T-shirts out truck windows. "Americans very good," Ali Khemy said. "Iraq wants to be free." Some chanted, "Ameriki! Ameriki!" Many others in the starving town just patted their stomachs and raised their hands, begging for food. A man identifying himself only as Abdullah welcomed the arrival of the U.S. troops: "Saddam Hussein is no good. Saddam Hussein a butcher." An old woman shrouded in black -- one of the very few women outside -- knelt toward the feet of Americans, embracing an American woman. A younger man with her pulled her away, giving her a warning sign by sliding his finger across his throat. In 1991, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died after prematurely celebrating what they believed was their liberation from Saddam after the Gulf War. Some even pulled down a few pictures of Saddam then -- only to be killed by Iraqi forces. Gurfein playfully traded pats with a disabled man and turned down a dinner invitation from townspeople. "Friend, friend," he told them in Arabic learned in the first Gulf War. "We stopped in Kuwait that time," he said. "We were all ready to come up there then, and we never did." The townspeople seemed grateful this time. "No Saddam Hussein!" one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. "Bush!" "No Saddam Hussein!" one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. "Bush!"

I THINK WE WILL BE SEEING A LOT MORE OF THIS..... An Iraqi woman welcomes U.S. Marines, as soldiers enter the southern border city of Safwan, Friday, March 21, 2003. The white flag on the car for safety reasons. (AP Photo/Laurent Rebours)

i do have to agree that the coalition of the willing is kinda a joke....the countries in the list are small potato's....

normal - its a joke if you are claiming anyone is limiting you free speech or anyone else's....everyone is entitled to say what they will.....however.....people have the right to also tell you to STFU as a reaction to your beliefs......the dixie clits had all the right to state their case.....but they better be ready for the repercusions of their actions.....i don't see the case that anyone is revoking someone's right to speech....just disagreeing with what was said....