mr mahs

Not yet......

Nonsense!

You don't see the hypocrisy in your efforts to protest a war for a greater good but ignore the gathering of forces in your country?? Why not protest the reluctance of the English authorities in apprehending them?

Def copy and paste...

AMEN!

Europeans: But don't simply scoff; for us the idea that you would spend $87 billion on fighting in Iraq while your own people don't have health care is preposterous. Dumb American: But was the death rate this August higher in the Sunni Triangle or Paris? We believe that a nanny state is not only inefficient, but, when the temperature rises, downright lethal. This was the best rebuttal of the whole discussion... I would have given money to see him make them eat shit....

Actually my friend.. the depreciation in the dollar is normal when a recession causes debt and foreign investors are less likely to invest in us. The current valuation, if you look at it on a broader scale from it's high is down 15% and I suspect that with our deficit a additional 5% decrease isn't unimaginable... Now lets look at the benefits.... The depreciation of the dollar makes our products cheaper overs seas, meaning foriegn societies will be able to purchase more of our products at a lower price only adding to corporate profits and adding fuel to the massive fire brewing in our economy, that has begun another expansion cycle. The fed bank would love a depreciated dollar coming out of recession as John Snow indicated and later caught heat over... Are other economies a danger to ours? No unless the expanding societies like China only buy Chinesse products but it's that isolationism that got China in trouble in the first place where the WFP has supplied food worth more than $1 billion to China since the 1970s (and take a guess who contributes the most?) Now that China's borders are opening to American investment and products our companies are going to make BILLIONS!!!!!

So true...

just happens when I copy and paste

Kean was appointed by the Bush administration...

PIKER: Someone who is small in being and mind.... Someone who never opens his eyes and grab life by the balls... I thought you had a promblem with Halliburton? Doesn't this article discredit your argument?

Stuck on Calypso’s Island.. Here is a really good article that outlines the differences between us and our so called european allies. The article details a exchange the author had with his european counterparts and points out the flaws in their "Soft Power" atempts at conflicts and their anti-american hatred... Good read! http://www.nationalreview.com/hanso...00312190847.asp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stuck on Calypso’s Island Dialoguing with the Europeans. What follows is a fair summation of about 20 or so dialogues I had recently with a series of Europeans — a good cross-section really of Scandinavians, British, Germans, Greeks, and Dutch. Questions and answers are taken almost verbatim from our exchanges. Europeans: What we object to most is the unilateralism and the language of the Bush administration, more so than any particular policy decision. Can't they tone it down? Dumb American: Maybe this cowboyism is akin to a similarly southern-accented president's previous failure to consult both our Congress and the U.N. when we bombed Milosevic? Or are you guys ticked off at the litany of needlessly provocative and uncouth asides — like "German way," "sh*tty little country," "Nazi manner," "problems with Miami and New York," etc.? Or perhaps Mr. Bush — in the manner of President Putin — threatened castration to a French journalist? Europeans: Moving on — you need to study our past to learn why we will no longer accept war as a method of adjudicating disputes. Dumb American: We long ago did that — and in 1941 figured war was the only way to restore what you nearly destroyed. Europeans: Well, war is simply not an option any longer for us, like it or not. You started this mess in Iraq and now want us to bail you out; so, yes, there is a sort of "I told you so" self-righteousness over here — and why not? Dumb Americans: And do Osama bin Laden, General Mladic, Saddam Hussein, and Kim Jong Il — all suitably impressed with your elegant forbearance — agree about the futility of war? As far as Iraq goes, forget about the war, look at the peace. We are not asking you to help us fight, but to send some aid to a consensual government emerging in Iraq. Are we to assume that you would extend $100 billion in military and trade credits to a mass-murdering fascist, but almost nothing to his victims, who got very little from your lucrative trade deals? Europeans: Perhaps our growing divide arises out of a sort of American simplicity about Israel and Sharon — now that the neocons have taken over Washington and have ignored the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinians. The United States simply is not as sensitive as we in Europe are to the problem of refugees and the abuse of power that is seen as so threatening to the Muslim world. Dumb American: Do you mean the 50-something dead in Jenin last spring or the 80,000-something Muslim dead in Grozny over more than a decade — or is the rub the 250,000 Muslim dead in Kosovo and Bosnia? Is it the "hyper" reaction of IDF or of the Russian and Serbian armies that grates on you? Europeans: True, there are legitimate differences in both points of view. But we worry that the Americans are not really aware of the depth of the European venom toward the United States. The anger is really cascading. Dumb American: Do you think such populist fury will result in the wholesale expulsion of our soldiers from Germany, Suda Bay, or Spain? Or maybe even the ejection of the United States from NATO? Europeans: Don't laugh — an all-EU force is months away. Dumb American: Centered around the Charles de Gaul or the Luxembourg Air Force? Europeans: Come on. You know that the animus is directed at Bush, not the American people. Dumb American: No; I think the divide is even worse than that, I'm afraid. You see, the reaction over here is just the opposite — we have nearly given up not so much on European governments but Europeans themselves, which we see as essentially the same. Europeans: In some ways you're right. After all, over half our population now believes that you — not the North Koreans or the Iranians — are the real threat to world peace. Dumb American: I suppose a similar poll 65 years ago would have revealed the same thing about your fear of a unilateral Churchill and your ease with a multilateral Hitler, who seemed to get a nod from the Russians, Italians, Spanish, Eastern Europeans, and Japanese when he went into Poland. But in any case, we wish you luck with the Iranian mullahs. And as far as Tehran goes, for your sake — as long as we are not yet in missile range — we hope that your Nobel Prizes, trade credits, lectures, and so-called "soft power" provide better deterrence than an ABM. Europeans: Our disagreement is not so simplistic as that. But part of the problem is that Americans simply do not know much outside their shores and listen to silly Fox News and Rush Limbaugh for their information. Dumb American: Do you prefer instead the erudition and scholarship of Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, Gore Vidal, or Thierry Meyssan, who, if the best-seller lists are any indication, have taught Europe much about America since 9/11? Europeans: I'm talking about snap judgment and simple solutions to complex problems. Dumb American: Like Bonapartism, Prussian militarism, Nazism, Italian fascism, Francoism, Marxism, and Communism? Europeans: Well, it is precisely our experience with those nightmares that guides us today, and explains why we would never allow a South Central or Harlem. And certainly we wouldn't unleash someone like this Ashcroft — or wage a preemptive war in Iraq. Dumb American: Marseilles is a socialist paradise? But tell me: Are Jews safer in Paris than Arabs are in Detroit? And is it a more moral thing for us to jail and try terrorist killers or, like you, turn them loose, as we saw all the time during the last two decades? Europeans: But don't simply scoff; for us the idea that you would spend $87 billion on fighting in Iraq while your own people don't have health care is preposterous. Dumb American: But was the death rate this August higher in the Sunni Triangle or Paris? We believe that a nanny state is not only inefficient, but, when the temperature rises, downright lethal. Europeans: You can see what we need is more communication — what concrete steps need to be taken to resolve the issue? Dumb American: For starters? Perhaps forgive Iraq's multibillion-dollar debt to France and Germany that Saddam ran up for imported weapons that killed thousands of his own people and some of us as well. Build a couple of aircraft carriers and learn how to use them to promote freedom and democracy. Impose a trade embargo on Syria and Iran. Don't give any more money to those who funnel it to suicide bombers on the West Bank. If you are in NATO, send 50,000 troops to Afghanistan to finish off those who attacked your ally; otherwise get out or dissolve NATO. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And so it typically goes. Most of these European interlocutors are impressively educated. They are naturally inquisitive and well versed in the nuances of culture. But there is also a great fear among them — almost as if the United States is a painful reminder that the world might not be so calm beyond their shores. If we would just not stir things up, leave it alone, not worry about it — the "problem" of terror might go away — as if the Soviet Union once collapsed due not to billions invested in American deterrence, but to a change of heart by well-meaning Marxists in Moscow. Europeans fixate on American and Israeli foibles — and not the far greater transgressions of Russians, Chinese, Iranians, or Arabs. Why? Because we alone listen to them, and with us they are not overwhelmed by the magnitude of a Grozny, Tibet, mass hangings in Tehran, the obliteration of an entire town in Hama, or the gassing of Kurds. And of course Mr. Bush does not threaten to cut off any European journalist's testicles, or brag about not clicking his heels to Germans. I'm sure that the Europeans are light-years ahead of us in the use of public transportation. They probably are wiser in their per-capita energy utilization, and their primary and secondary education may be superior. But there is also something of Calypso's island about them. For all their professed enjoyment of food, shelter, and lovemaking, the Europeans are bored silly with their listless routine and are increasingly timid — this from a great people who should not, but really do, live in terror of their own past. Like Odysseus in his comfy subservience to Calypso, these mesmerized and complacent sensualists sometimes contemplate leaving the comfort of their fairyland atoll and in boredom weep nightly, gazing out at the seashore. But as yet they lack the hero's courage to finally build a raft and sail rough seas to confront suitors who are trying to crash their civilization. This war would be over far sooner if 350 million Europeans insisted on a modicum of behavior from Middle Eastern rogue regimes, rounded up and tried terrorists in their midst, deported islamofascists, cut off funding to killers on the West Bank, ignored Yasser Arafat — and warned the next SOB who blew up Europeans in Turkey, North Africa, or Iraq that there was a deadly reckoning to come from the continent that invented the Western military tradition. Indeed, European sophistication and experience, combined with real power, could be a great aid to the West in its effort to promote liberal and consensual governments outside its shores. But if they do not even believe in the unique legacy of their civilization, then why should we — much less their enemies? So for now we should not lament that the Europeans are no longer real allies, but rather be thankful that they are still for a while longer neutrals rather than enemies — these strange and brilliant people who somehow lost their way, and no longer can distinguish between a noisy Knesset and Arafat's hangmen, much less between those racing to topple a tyrant in Baghdad and others lounging at Sebrenica.

You aren't fit to wash my balls you piker...

---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200312190859.asp E-mail Author Author Archive Send to a Friend Print Version December 19, 2003, 8:59 a.m. Halliburton’s “Gouging”: What Really Happened There's a good explanation — if anyone is interested. New details are emerging that suggest the energy giant Halliburton did not overcharge the Defense Department for fuel in Iraq — contrary to the claims of critics in Congress and in the field of Democratic presidential candidates. The Pentagon is investigating allegations that Halliburton overcharged it by $61 million for gasoline and other fuels delivered to Iraq. Halliburton delivered gasoline to Iraq from Kuwait at a price of $2.27 per gallon, while it delivered gas from Turkey for $1.18 per gallon. The obvious question raised by the discrepancy was: Why would Halliburton deliver high-priced fuel from Kuwait when it could be obtained at a much lower price from Turkey? The company says it did so because the Army demanded that it deliver fuel from Kuwait. "The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said to find a fuel source in Kuwait," Halliburton said in a press release yesterday. "[Halliburton] sought and received bids from four suppliers in Kuwait. One met the Corps' specification, and that is the one the Corps approved." But why did the Corps specify that fuel be delivered from Kuwait? The answer appears to lie with the nature of fuel shortages that swept Iraq in the late spring. After the war, the country's oil refineries were operating far below capacity. Both gasoline and liquefied petroleum gas, which millions of Iraqis use for cooking, were in very short supply. American officials feared that the shortages might spark civil unrest. Of particular concern was Basra, the city in southern Iraq that had seen increasingly violent expressions of popular anger against coalition forces. According to a source in the Corps of Engineers, in May, Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez, leader of American forces in Iraq, demanded that fuel be supplied to Basra — fast. "The initial import of fuel was in response to a request from General Sanchez to do this because there was an uprising in Basra over the lack of gas and cooking fuel," says the Corps source. "Basra is near the Kuwaiti border. The fastest way to get it there is Kuwait. So we directed them [Halliburton] to do that." "Basra was a flash point; we were close to civil unrest," the source continues. "Probably at the time we didn't care what it cost, because we were trying to stop a riot. Cost was probably not an issue." But the rest of Iraq was suffering from fuel shortages as well. On May 8, in an article headlined, "Angry Iraqis Blame U.S. for Fuel Shortage," the Washington Post reported on a "ubiquitous scene" in Iraq: "lines that stretch toward dusty horizons as people wait for gasoline, a problem that confronts U.S. authorities with both a complex engineering challenge and a continuing threat to their prestige." Soon the U.S. military was ordering fuel shipments to the rest of Iraq as well. While the Kuwaiti source is relatively close to Basra, it is a great distance from northern Iraq, which made for very long shipping lines. And the violent insurgency then beginning inside Iraq made the work not only expensive but also dangerous for the crews hired by Halliburton to deliver the fuel. "Not many people want to drive eight to fifteen days through a war zone with a truck full of flammable materials," the company says. "Three drivers have been killed and many others injured while performing this mission, and 60 vehicles have been damaged." As a result, Halliburton officials say they came up with the idea of arranging for another fuel source in Turkey. "[Halliburton] initiated the idea to source fuel from Turkey," the company says. [Halliburton] presented this idea to its customer, and because of this, saved taxpayers well over $100 million." Since that time, fuel has come into Iraq from both sources. According to both the Corps and Halliburton, neither country can, on its own, provide the amount of fuel needed inside Iraq. So far, Halliburton says, about two-thirds of the fuel delivered to Iraq has come from Turkey, at the lower price, and about one-third has come from Kuwait, at the higher price. Given those proportions, Halliburton says the average fuel cost from both Turkey and Kuwait has been $1.60 per gallon, "well within what auditors think it should be." Although Halliburton's actions have been intensely criticized by the administration's opponents, the Pentagon says it has not found any wrongdoing. Said Defense Department comptroller Dov Zakheim on Tuesday, "From what I've seen so far...I have no basis whatsoever to see anything nefarious."

Yeah, that sounds accurate...

He killed hundreds on innocent people. But he also did numerous good things for that country. He built the largest military of any midde east country, mondernized baghdad and opend up alot of hospitals This statement alone shows you are clueless....

You honestly believe Sadam wasn't that bad?

They should deport this parasite back to palestine... This message has to be the most backward retarded thing I have ever read...

You believe this half a fruit? The guy is a anarchist pussy who would hide under his parents bed... VAGINA that he is...

NORMALNOISES: DEAD BEAT FATHER WHO SMOKES CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS.... The letters don't match but the description does.... How's life living with your parents??? Jerkoff:blown:

Good article to prove yet another reason we went to Iraq... Geopolitical repositioning....

If it took 8 months to find a human being. How can we possibly find a trunk full of weapons that are probably buried in the desert or transfered to Syria. Let me ask you a homnest question lost one... -Why do you think Syria has 3 billion of Iraq's money???

WEAK....

Stop doing K it's killing your ability to see the facts infront of you, distorting it as a conspiracy theory... Like I said FOOL....

Like I said before hypocrisy to the fullest.. I really wish they would read between the lines and see how this is a step forward in changing the despotic sentiment the arab street has for our country. The war on terror originated in this hatred and the Iraqi's being able to try and convict this animal will show there IS better way of life.. I just don't understand how these idiots can see past the cheering in the streets and ask where's Bin-Laden. The Arabs he trained, as in past tense cause remember those training camps are now destroyed are spawned in a region that we are trying to change how come no one can understand's this?