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Coming home from work yesterday I noticed protestors through out the city and the first thing I thought was why? After all the dicoveries of human torture, rape, mass graves and now that what we have known all along has been exposed, the U.N oil for food debacle.. How can anybody protest what's been done? I'll tell you one thing, from the view I saw and this just might be concentrated to whom took the ferry that day , social misfits with mawhawks and lip ring and of course the infamous"War for Oil" T shirts.... is all I saw holding those pickett signs... I felt like asking one of them if they picketed when Iraqi's were dying every day at the hands of Sadam? Most likely not... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/marshall200403190820.asp A Progress Report Iraq, the next March. By Paul Marshall Spain's socialist prime-minister-elect buttressed his intention of pulling Spanish troops out of Iraq with the claim that "the war has been a disaster; the occupation continues to be a disaster." While few in America are quite so negative, there is a pervasive sense that things are going badly over there. In truth, most things have gone well. The invasion itself went rapidly, with death tolls below almost everyone's expectations. There was no gotterdammerung: no refugee outflows; no humanitarian disasters; the oilfields were not set ablaze; the dams on the Tigris and Euphrates were not breached. I traveled to Iraq two months after the end of major hostilities and the first striking thing about Baghdad was that most hopeful sign: traffic jams. Here were tens of thousands of people who had cars and were in a heck of a hurry to get somewhere to do something. This was no cowed, broken city, and no cowed, broken people. The second striking thing was the minimal indications that there had been a war: occasional burned out trucks and tanks, shattered street signs, and then those shells of government buildings. The bombing had been not only accurate, but had left nearly all the destroyed buildings still standing. Some looked undamaged until you got up close and discovered that they were hollowed out. If you had been in one, you would be dead: If you had been next door, you would be alive. And these were the areas of conflict: Baghdad and Basra and the narrow zone of the allied advance up the river valleys. The rest of Iraq never saw any war. Most Iraqis learned what was happening the same way Americans did: on the news. Even now, over three quarters of Iraqis have had no dealings either with the Coalition authority or allied forces. The task of rebuilding Iraq's physical infrastructure, after decades of decay, has, by almost any standard, gone rapidly. Oil production, electrical facilities, and water supply are doing well. At times it has seemed slow, but not if you compare it to the amount of time it takes to do these things almost anywhere else — including in the U.S. The signing of the interim constitution earlier this month also gives reason for hope. Members of the Iraqi Governing Council had thunderous arguments, accused each other of duplicity, made backdoor alliances, staged walkouts, and denounced the final product. In short, they acted like members of the U.S. Congress. And the final product was a very good one. The recent Oxford Research International survey of Iraqi opinion gives additional positive news. 70 percent of Iraqis think things in their life are "very good" or "quite good." Less than 20 percent feel things are worse now than before the war. Only 7 percent think things will be worse a year from now. The survey may have some sampling problems but these findings are stark enough to survive such a weakness. There have been major mistakes, such as rapidly disbanding the Iraqi army. The Coalition Provisional Authority has also, by most accounts, done a poor job of communicating with Iraqis. And there is the problem, the one that dominates our headlines, the lack of security, with continued bloody bombings and mortar attacks, now aimed mostly at soft, civilian targets; kidnapping, crime, and local militias. Most Iraqis expect the smaller security problems to subside, and they are probably right, but the bombings may remain. If Madrid, Jaffa, Bali, and Istanbul can be bombed, then Baghdad, Karbala, and Basra can be also. Iraq remains a high-wire act: a perilous enterprise of creating a genuine democracy in the face of hostile neighbors and terrorists in a country subjected to decades of totalitarian rule. Things can fall apart very, very quickly. But the central thing, the most important thing, the never to be forgotten thing, is that Saddam has gone — the man who until a year ago affected every fear of war, every calculation of the future of the Middle East. He's the man who filled those oh-so-little-reported mass graves that Iraqis are uncovering, with their hundreds of thousands of bodies, including the children's graves. He's the man who vies with Halugu Khan for the title of the greatest slaughterer of Muslims in history. Gone: a pathetic figure with lice in his beard. All in all, a good year's work.

No I didn't say that... I said if the husband, who is now a father should take responsibilty for his children and you know 9 out of ten times thats not happening..... You ever read Jeamn Piaget experiment with with poor children? If not go check it out it shows that crime isn't caused from poverty it caused from a broken home environment, should tell you something.

Very true and scary... But something tells me no amount of money would persuade a disgruntle scientist to sell a nuke to a bunch of extremists. What good is the money if nuclear fallout occurs because some nutball you just sold the suitcase nuke to started WWIII.... get my point? I'm not downplaying the threat in any way because the thirst and the motive to use them against us exists, I just don't think they've been succesful in obtaining one, YET....

Huh? Don't give me this two america's tale about the oppressed, my and your tax dollars provide assistance for anyone who wants it.. So let me get this straight, if your neighbor has 4 kids from 3 fathers and the mother is breaking her back in trying to support them while the father is out gang banging instead of attempting to get an education (which is free if poor enough) or bettering themselves, you fall into the same rut? How many people have to fail following the same routine before realising is a losing battle. If anything I always thought, if I couldn't make it doing what I really wanted to do, I would join the armed forces and work for uncle Sam. Having 1 or more children should intesify that need to better yourself.... I actually wrote a paper on this topic last semester. The majority of "poor" people in this country are single moms who's childrens fathers have abandoned them, in fact a child is 17x more likely to committ a crime and serve a jail sentance if they're born out of wedlock. Whether people believe it or not the increase in the divorce and wedlock rate is whats causing the poverty promblem in this country if 30% of fathers who have illegitimate babies own up to their responsibilities now that the child is born 75% of poor households would climb out of poverty. Good article... http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry...00401300926.asp According to the Heritage Foundation's welfare expert, Robert Rector, the typical poor family with children is supported by only 800 hours of work annually, or about 16 hours a week. This number holds in good economic times and bad, because it is a factor of attitudes toward work rather than the availability of jobs. If the amount of work in these households were equivalent to one adult working 40 hours a week, roughly 75 percent of poor children would be lifted out of poverty

Ayman al-Zawahiri is waiting for his subpoena... If false the fear factor(no pun intended) is being achieved. If true then why haven't they used them yet? It's a screwed up world we live in, hopefully our joint operation in Pakistan is succesful in bringing this animal Ayman al-Zawahiri to justice.

That's all you got? WEAK!

Your sisters hole, you Eurotrash, K sniffing faggot.... A spent rubber serves more of a purpose then your whole pitiful, cocksmoking engulfed, meaningless life.. You come here talk shit while your so called brotheren are dieng in your MOTHERLAND, and I'm the coward? you make me sick, your kind with your hatred so intense is causes blindness to your own stupidy...We act you bitch, we don't act you bitch, go fawk yourself, HOW ABOUT THAT???

It's a political forum why should opposing opinions be stamped out? What happens when the debates occur? I understand the rival link issue because of monetary factors but seems hypocritical about the censurship imho... Sen Flip Flop is DOOMED!!!

What? They screen everyone of my posts, you don't see anything wrong with that?

This was my post to a Doom and Gloomer who discredits the record HH net worth figure from WSJ, I've posted on here before. What if the housing bubble bursts? My reply that got pulled.... The title of the thread was... Great Economy Under GWB?, Propaganda or truth? I replied to his housing bubble reply with.... The housing "Correction" would occur if rates rise. Now if the rates don't suddenly increase from the deficit which is unlikely, then the only economic occurence would be rapid growth ie..jobs,capital spending,consumption. Judging from the last economic cycle of the 90'S, we could experience another 8-10 year expansion if innovation occurs.. Nanotechnology anyone? Listen I just bought a home and was on the same side as you, bearish on the housing market, looking for a correction but the numbers work out. 400k home 5.25% rate $2208 a month Rate goes to 7.25% because the Fed loan rate has been adjusted upward, why? Job and income increases from accelerated economic expansion. Housing prices drop 15% (340k) but remember it's a tangible asset and has little to no liquidity so the impact of a price drop isn't greatly felt. Americans have locked 40 year lows on their home mortgages and every mortgage payment gets them one step closer to final ownership. If the economy continues to pick up and God saves us from another attack and democratic president then we should be OK.. I guess the last part really pissed them off...lol

Latest PM...... We remove all posts with name calling and derisive remarks including those against Bush. I think we are being very fair here. Try criticizing Bush on the Free Republic forum and see what happens Besides, all message boards have rules, we enforce ours strictly to permit real debate. Stay away from the derisive rhetoric and stick to the facts. Keep in mind that although it is our policy to debate openly opposition allegations, this forum is not an echo-chamber for right wing smears which is why we any particular attack issue only one topic. And we know all of them too. We read the papers and watch the ads etc.. so we know when someone is doing a cut-and-paste job from Rush, Hannity, Free Republic, RNC etc.. We weren't born yesterday you know Be a good citizen for a few days and I will consider lifting your restriction then

That particular post broke the camels back... They said it was a combination of posts that led to the blacklisting. The rest of the posts were about homeownership and outsourcing and were appropriate and completely contradicted the mods post with facts to back it up.. And you say Bush is a radical

So I join the Kerry board to rile some feather with out being insulting of course and they placed me on some watch list that forwards my messages to a moderator before it appears on the site... *****Your posts are under review due to this infraction. Post a few times and the mods will let those post onto the board if they are within meeting rules, and soon will remove this restriction if you demonstrate your willingness to stay within the meeting rules. This site is such a joke you hit them with facts and opinions and they put you on some bull shit list, hypocrites... Remember when Kerry told a person it wss non of their business about the Foreign leader endorcement issue? Well the site follows the same guidelines... I ain't done with this....... Here was my post, you tell me if I should be placed on some fawking watch list... This was one of my reply's ****Oh you mean the 4 month photo shoot he went on before he came back and REALLY lied about what took place in Vietnam with fake witnesses and all.. Weird how Lerch got a medal in four months, no? He should've stayed home If you think my post was harsh, you should see the bile coming from these idiots....

So the first bombing of the WTC in 93 wasn't a crime against America?? I to think you should jump from Big Ben...

Where is DJXENO defending Sadaam?? I still can't believe he has such high regards for him, could need some help...meds anyone?

1st- it was Bubba and NATO that started that shit.... so blow it out your ass, blowhard... 2nd- Go back to Europe if you hate it here so much you LOWLIFE, I'm tired of listening to you complain...

And again, now we have promblems like people sabotaging our efforts. In 91 if it wasn't fixed fast enough the whole town got threatened, HUGE diffrence....

Spaniards Capitulating . . . http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6542-2004Mar18.html By Charles Krauthammer Friday, March 19, 2004; Page A23 When confronting an existential enemy -- an enemy that wants to terminate your very existence -- there are only two choices: appeasement or war. In the 1930s Europe chose appeasement. Today Spain has done so again. Europe may follow. One can understand Europe's reaction in the 1930s. First, it could almost plausibly convince itself that Hitler could be accommodated. Perhaps he really was only seeking what he sometimes said he was -- the return of territory, the unification of the German volk, a place in the sun -- and not world conquest. Today there is no doubting the intentions of Arab-Islamic radicalism. It is not this grievance or that (U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia). It is not this territory or that (Palestine, Andalusia). The intention, endlessly repeated, is the establishment of a primitive, messianic caliphate -- redeeming Islam and dominating the world. They have seen the future: Taliban Afghanistan, writ large. Moreover, Europe in the 1930s had a second excuse. The devastation of the first world war, staggering and fresh in memory (France and Germany lost a third of their young men of military age), had made another such war unthinkable. This does not excuse appeasement -- it cost millions more lives in the second world war -- but provides context and possibly humility. One has to ask oneself: Am I sure I would not have chosen the cowardly alternative? Nonetheless, it was still the cowardly alternative. And today Spain has chosen it -- having suffered not Europe's 20 million dead of World War I but 200 dead in the Madrid bombings. The Socialist Party placed the blame for the attack not on the barbarians who detonated the bombs but on the Spanish government that stood with the United States in its war against the barbarians. The Spanish electorate then voted into office the purveyors of precisely that perverse view. Spain will now withdraw from Iraq, sever its alliance with America and, as Prime Minister-elect Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has promised, "restore magnificent relations with France and Germany." Nonetheless, Spain is just Spain. The really big prize is Europe. Which is why the most ominous development of the week was the post-Madrid pronouncements of Romano Prodi, the president of the European Commission. "It is clear that force alone cannot win the fight against terrorism." Sounds reasonable until you hear Prodi's amplification of the idea just two days earlier. "We know that international terrorism wants to spread fear," he said. "Fear generates not so much justice but rather vengeance, which chooses war to answer the need of security. . . . We become prisoners of terror and of terrorists." In other words, making war on terror is unjust, fearful, mere vengeance and ultimately a victory for terrorism. If not war, then what? A centerpiece to Prodi's solution to terrorism: a new European constitution. I'm not making this up: "to defeat fear we only have democracy and politics. . . . Today for us, politics means building Europe completely with its constitution and its institutions." This is beyond appeasement. This is decadence: Terror rages and we tend our garden. Prodi is right that the war on terror is not resolved by force alone. How is it won apart from hunting down terrorists and destroying terrorist regimes? By reversing the Arab-Islamic world's tragic collapse into oppression, intolerance and destitution, in which popular grievances are cynically deflected by repressive regimes and clergy into the virulent anti-Americanism that exploded upon us on Sept. 11, 2001. Which means trying to give desperate and oppressed people a chance at the kind of freedom and prosperity that we helped construct after World War II in Europe and East Asia. Where on this planet is this project most engaged? Iraq, where day by day the U.S.-led coalition is trying to build a new civil order characterized by pluralism, the rule of law and constitutional restraints. Even a modicum of success in this enterprise would constitute a monumental strategic advance, a historic change in the very culture of the Middle East. Spain's response to this challenge? Abandon the effort. So when Zapatero and, more important, Prodi speak of nonmilitary means to combat terrorism, they don't mean draining the swamp by gradually building free institutions. They mean buying off the terrorists, distancing themselves from America and seeking a separate peace. Sure, they will continue to track down individual al Qaeda terrorists. But that's no favor to anyone. They want to make sure there's not another Madrid, in case European appeasement is not quite thorough enough to satisfy the terrorists. But on the larger fight, the reordering of the Arab world that produced the terrorists, they choose surrender.

And without the Sabatours (sp)

Oh and Hans Blix is a putz...

What? From Wolfowitz's article today in the Post... http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/17287.htm Today, Iraq's era of systematic savagery is over. Thanks to the dedication and courage of American and Coalition military and civilians, the support of the U.S. Congress and the American people, life in Iraq is improving steadily: * Electricity reached pre-war levels last October, and is on track to reach 150 percent of pre-war levels, despite an infrastructure devastated by Saddam. * Oil production has reached 2.5 million barrels per day, well ahead of projections. * Funding for public health care is up 26 times the level under Saddam * All 22 universities, 43 technical institutes and colleges opened on time last fall. * Some 72 million new textbooks will go to primary and secondary schools by the end of this school year, so children will no longer learn arithmetic from books that say "2 Saddams plus 2 Saddams equals 4 Saddams."

Were viewed as infidels....

Someone should phone MARS and tell Dennis and his minions that if we get attacked again, there isn't going to be any MONEY to pay for those "luxuries".....Rememebr that bdanto4

He used to make my blood boil but as of late he's been amusing lol

Maybe they should stop idolizing drug dealers, having children out of wedlock and go to school thats most likely FREE that way they can provide a better life for themselves...