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Again, common sense from a dying breed in the Dem camp. I like Joe, but his party quickly let him know how they felt about him during his last run for Prez. They wanted Dean, remember? Until he snapped on camera!

Well said bro! I'm still soaking it all in.................. What's not to get? Couldn't be more crystal clear what we face. How's our generation going to deal w/ this shit? We see what liberals want. We see what democratic politicians say. As of last night, we saw what democratic politicians do! Only 3 voted to cut and run from Iraq. ONLY 3! So what's w/ the democratic side show circus? House Repz call their bluff and as expected, nothing but more hot air and psuedo-rage from today's modern democrats. Seems like they're playing to their sugar daddy's on the far left, but @ what expense? Is that a sign of a confident party or an act of desperation?

Looks like Al-Jazeera is having a field day w/ the democratic party and their spineless quest for power of the White House at the expense of the American soldier abroad. NICE! Next, I can imagine "uncle sam" style campaign add which reads "Usama Wants You" (replace Uncle Sam cartoon w/ UBL). This should be the new DNC seal.... Congrat Demz!!! Really! Great job! Terrorsit all over the world LOVE YOU! You said you were worried about what the rest of the world thought of America, well how about what Americans, specifically soldiers think of Democrats? I can only hope and pray the RNC plays their cards right and w/in the next year unload on all of the politicians playing politrix w/ this war for their own selfish aquisition of power! Have no fear Demz, if America disownes you, you'll always have Al-Qaida to turn to! You guys are true patriots,,,,,,,,only for the other side and not America! http://al-jazeera.net/

So ?? Where are the WMD's??? HUH? WELL, WHERE ARE THEY? WAR FOR OIL BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED YO,HO YO,HO A PIRATES LIFE FOR ME!!! .... lol

Is water really wet? Only if a democrat says so! They've worked EVERY TIME THEY'VE BEEN TRIED! PERIOD! They worked when JFK did it and they worked when Bush did it!

I remember that "mild" recession which came about during a Clinton budget. The Bush budget wasn't even implemented until about 8 months after he took office. What month was it that Bush actually moved into the white house? Elected in Nov., right(oh yeah, recount, recount recount)? Assumed the role when? Anyway, point being that unemployment figures are better than that of his predecesor. Clinton economy did not come out of recession until his 6th year in office.....blah,blah,blah..................I know, you don't care. Point being: The psycho-babble we hear about Bush and economy are pure politrix'tas playing games.

Look no further than Clinton in Dubai calling the war a mistake. I'm almost at a loss for words at how shameful that was. Pitiful! Pathetic! Treasonous?

You said it, not me....fake news...satire...comedy central? HELLO!

S&P 500 climbs to 4 1/2-year high GE in $8.5B insurance asset sale; H-P gains on earnings By Mark Cotton, MarketWatch Last Update: 10:19 AM ET Nov. 18, 2005 NEW YORK (MarketWatch) - U.S. stocks rose in morning trading Friday, with the S&P 500 Index climbing to its best level since June 2001 in a market boosted by gains in blue chips General Electric and Hewlett-Packard, and a multi-billion acquisition in Cisco Systems. A drop in crude-oil prices also underpinned gains. The Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU: Dow Jones Industrial Average News, chart, profile Last: 10,738.87+18.65+0.17% 10:40am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore $INDU$INDU10,738.87, +18.65, +0.2%) rose to a session high of 10,796.26 before paring gains. The benchmark index was last up 40 points at 10,759. The Nasdaq Composite Index ($COMPQ: Nasdaq Composite Index News, chart, profile Last: 2,225.13+4.67+0.21% 10:40am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore $COMPQ$COMPQ2,225.13, +4.67, +0.2%) rose to a fresh four and a half year high, up 10 points at 2,230. The S&P 500 Index ($SPX: S&P 500 Index News, chart, profile Last: 1,245.27+2.47+0.20% 10:40am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore $SPX$SPX1,245.27, +2.47, +0.2%) also rose to its best level in four and a half years, up 5 points at 1,247. "This is just an extension of the rally we've been seeing," said Ken Tower, chief market strategist at CyberTrader. "The S&P is joining the party that the Nasdaq joined yesterday." "We've had a little lessening concern on inflation and a little drop in interest rates although I'm not sure how long it will last." Tower said all the merger and acquisition activity is also lending support as it shows the confidence that corporate leaders feel and also the confidence of the banks and investors who make those deals happen. On the broader market for equities, advancers outpaced decliners by around two to one on both the New York Stock Exchange and the Nasdaq. Gold futures bounced off 18-year highs amid mild profit taking even though the precious metal is expected to see continued strength on strong physical demand, central-bank buying and inflation concerns. Gold for December delivery reached $489.20 an ounce, its highest level since 1987 and was last trading down 30 cents at $486.60 an ounce. See Metals Stocks On the currency markets, the euro rebounded against the dollar after remarks by European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet, hinting that eurozone interest rates may have to rise. The euro was up 0.3% at $1.1774. Against the Japanese yen, the greenback pared gains, up just 0.2% at 118.96. See Currencies On the bond market, Treasury prices fell, pushing yields higher, as traders used an empty economic calendar as an excuse to lock in recent gains. The benchmark 10-year note was last trading down 8/32 at 100. Its yield climbed to 4.5% from 4.45% at Thursday's close. Crude-oil futures fell sharply in morning, taking the benchmark index to a five and a half month low. Crude for December delivery was down 94 cents at $55.40 a barrel in New York trading. Dow stocks in focus Shares in General Electric Co. (GE: General Electric Company News, chart, profile Last: 35.65+0.99+2.86% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore GEGE35.65, +0.99, +2.9%) rose to a four-month high of $35.75 after the conglomerate lifted earnings estimates and said it will sell most of its Insurance Solutions reinsurance division to Swiss Re for $8.5 billion, after losing $700 million from that side of the business over the last five years. The company said it will also lift its share-buyback plan to $25 billion through 2008 from an earlier plan of $15 billion through 2007. See full story. Hewlett-Packard (HPQ: Hewlett-Packard Co. News, chart, profile Last: 29.78+0.78+2.69% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore HPQHPQ29.78, +0.78, +2.7%) rallied in morning trading after the computer and printer maker raised its profit outlook after posting earnings, excluding restructuring charges, that handily topped expectations. The company's solid performance came on the back of strong sales of its personal computers, servers and storage gear. The stock, one of the biggest gainers on the Dow industrials, rose as much as 4% to $30.17 after gaining 2.6% Thursday in front of its quarterly release. See full story. Walt Disney Co., (DIS: Walt Disney Company (The) (Holding Company) News, chart, profile Last: 25.19-0.80-3.08% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore DISDIS25.19, -0.80, -3.1%) another Dow component, fell as much as 3.6% to $25.05 after net income for the fourth quarter fell more than 25% due mostly to underperforming films. On a per-share profit, however, the media giant beat analyst expectations. See full story. Shares in General Motors Corp. (GM: General Motors Corporation News, chart, profile Last: 23.55+0.92+4.07% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore GMGM23.55, +0.92, +4.1%) was up 4.6% at $23.67. Chief Executive Rick Wagoner told employees in a memo Wednesday that it doesn't plan to file for bankruptcy reorganization, according to a filing late Thursday with the Securities and Exchange Commission. "That is not only unnecessary; it would be clearly contrary to the interests of our employees, our stock and bond holders, our dealers, and our suppliers and importantly, our customers," Wagoner said in the memo. "What we are doing is taking the necessary steps to get our business profitable." Deals Outside the Dow, Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO: Cisco Systems, Inc. News, chart, profile Last: 17.05-0.32-1.84% 10:25am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore CSCOCSCO17.05, -0.32, -1.8%) said it is buying cable television set-top maker Scientific Atlanta Inc (SFA: Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. News, chart, profile Last: 42.02+0.57+1.38% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore SFASFA42.02, +0.57, +1.4%) for $6.9 billion. Cisco shares were off 0.9% at $17.20. Scientific Atlanta's stock rose to an early high of $42.24. Apparel company Liz Claiborne Inc. (LIZ: Liz Claiborne, Inc. News, chart, profile Last: 36.22+0.63+1.77% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore LIZLIZ36.22, +0.63, +1.8%) said it has offered to buy J. Jill Group's Inc. (JILL: j jill group inc com News, chart, profile Last: 18.09+5.30+41.44% 10:25am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore JILLJILL18.09, +5.30, +41.4%) for about $366 million, or $18 a share in cash, representing a 40% premium to Thursday's closing price. Liz Claiborne shares rose 2.6% to $36.50 while shares of J. Jill Group shot up 45% to $18.54. Elsewhere in the retail space, shares in The Gap Inc. (GPS: The Gap, Inc. News, chart, profile Last: 16.94-1.57-8.48% 10:20am 11/18/2005 Add to portfolio Analyst Create alertInsider Discuss FinancialsMore GPSGPS16.94, -1.57, -8.5%) tumbled more than 8% to a session low of $16.96 after the apparel retailer lowered its full-year outlook after fashion miscues and a drop in sales at its namesake stores drove earnings down 20%. See full story.

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Brilliant and sober! Great post!

Love is in the air....... Every time I look around........... Love is in the air....... lol............................ cojelo con take it easy, meng! chillax! cojelo suave! easy tiger! tranquilo! Seems like an utter lack of understanding going on here. I blame the agenda driven media, liberal agenda monolpoly in public education and universities, an extremely short attention span and utter laziness on the part of the average media consumer (ie. you and I). Most modern libz just rattle off the CNN talking points. When confronted w/ historical reference and undeniable fact, they tend to answer the question w/ yet another absurd question unrelated to the original issue being discussed. Liberals are fueled by hate, bitterness, spite, envy and deep seeded misery. Conservatives are fueld by hope, justice and freedom. If one looks at today's current political climate, what I just wrote is painfuly obvious. Liberals have a president they genuinely hate from their gut. Yet, this president has practically given liberals almost everything they've wanted. Even w/ the republican majority, he has not led by force and has been extremely inclusive w/ the oppostion party. Whether it's including demz on writting bills from education to farming or endlessing debating the direction in which the country should be heading post 9/11 2001. He's given libz almost everything they've asked for. He hasn't seen a bill which deserved a veto. Whatever congress presents him, he signed away! What happens next is that libz then feel they won't be able to take credit for all these gov't handouts and giveaways, so they start to bite the hand that feeds them. They relentlessly bombard the administration w/ half-truths and twisted facts which are then gleefully regurgitated by their willing accomplices in the main stream press which never takes the time to disect the accusations, given that it's coming from Democrats. If the script were flipped, I think we might see the press actually doing it's job for once by investigating the accustions prior to rushing it to press. Sadly, politrix is just gross! The left is clearly controlled by the uber-left wing, socialists, hippy, social misfits(moveon.org, Soros,etc..) which control all the money and have already publicy said if the elected demz don't do as they wish, they will be replaced by libz who'll play ball (that threat was made by MOVEON.ORG). One can say the repz are controlled by big corp. dollars, but the last election showed that the individual campaign contributions were largely donated by individuals, not corporations. Regardless, the big business is usually on the side of the Repz who favor less gov't interference in this free market economy. Besides, it's big business which provides the vast majority of employment in this country anyways. There is a flip side to that as well. Big Corps. usually play ball w/ whomever is in office. For example: When Clinton was in office, most of the largest contributions came from corps. like Enron, Halliburton, etc. Again, don't expect the main stream media to shed light on this inconvenient fact because it just doesn't fit the template in which present the news (ie. demz-good, repz-bad). At the end of the day, I prefer to be on the side that will limit gov't extortion of it's citizens from societies producers to the non-producers, not expand it. As for foreign policy, well, that's easy! Libz prefer to be more like France. Libz LOATH the might of our military and are almost ashamed of it. It's as if America just won the lotto of luck in their eyes, which makes them feel guilty (go fig'r???). They refuse to acknowledge that America has EARNED the power & prosperity it currently enjoys. America has had the power to conquor, yet has been restrained. America cleans up the messes Europe is incapable on doing on it's own(ie. ww1, ww2 and to an extent Korea, S.East Asia and most recently the mid-East). At the end of the day, history will judge us all. It's definitley way too soon to tell. In America's short history, it's the liberals who have been on the wrong side of history. From communism to terrorism. To domestic social policies and reform. Liberals are determined to govorn OVER the people and conservatives fight to govorn FOR the people. Ironically, repz are more pro-choice on the vast majority of domestic issues and liberals seem to believe GOV'T is the sole arbiter of what is good for the people (ie. healthcare, auto's, etc..). I don't think repz are ALL RIGHT and libz are ALL WRONG either. I just think today's liberals need to work more on having an open mind and back off the personal hate driven politics of personal destruction and character assasination. When all is said and done, we're all Americans right? These terrorist abroad and domestic don't care if they blow up republicans or democrats, to them we're all Americans and all deserve to be killed. If we just found a way to work together we might just be a better place. If democrats only lived by the standards they demand from republicans most of these little cat fights would be null and void. Point being, 9/11 changed everything and it's painfully obvious that modern democrats are still living in a 9/10/2001 world. Pity!

Right! of course! last time I checked, it's democrats who refuse to call their own onto the carpet! Can you say moraly bankrupt? Lack of principles maybe? I think Bush is getting what he deserves for trying to play nice w/ Democrats. He's spent money like a drunken democrat in the hope they'll play ball and all it's broght him is more attacks. They view that as a sign of weakness and only try to get him and his staff thrown in jail because they have no chance of winning at the ballot box. Politics is complicated. I think Bush's mistake was playing nice w/ the demz. Before any good can come out, the enemy must be soundly defeated. At home it's the demz, ,abroad it's terrorism. I say, TAKE NO PRISONERS AND CLEAN HOUSE! We've got the majority,,,,,SO RAM THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA DOWN THEIR THROATS! Abroad, blast them all to kingdom come! PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH! The people chose you GEORGE W. BUSH and rejected liberalism! RAM THAT AGENDA DOWN THE THROATS OF THE CRITICS AND LET THE CARDS FALL........... PEACE!

run igloo, run! our cover is blown! lol the only circle jerks going on recently are coming from frothing libz incapable of reason or logic. As for the anti-abortion thing...HUH??? Hey, I'm pro-choice....I CHOOSE LIFE!!! Didn't you recently post something about being proud of Mass. choosing LIFE for convicted criminals? You'll change in time scooter...... There's an old saying: If you're under 40 and conservative, you have no life. If you're over 40 and liberal, you have no brains. 10 yrs. ago, I didn't give a fuck. Never watched the news. Too worried about getting fucked up and getting laid. As an adult w/ children, I've gained wisdom and better understand the IMPORTANT things in life. As for the pro-choice thingy, I challenge you find any parent who's not pro-life. Even the rabid pro-choicers change. They may not be open pro-lifers, but they usually tone down the pro-abortion bullshit. In closing, basically I'm sharing knowledge gained through personal life experiences. Take it or leave it, but make no mistake, I GET IT. Maybe you will too someday. Sayonra to all my "Little Nikita's" ....... Hang in there Igloo, you seem stressed today? 3 pm,,,,,Time to go pick up my daughter from school and play house. LOL......

well, we're both guessing it was a displaced local. So neither of us really know? As for the imbecile comment, it seems you're eating up all this democratic propaganda and re-writing of history.........hook,line and sinker. The current argument being made by demz holds no water. Historical references of the words which came out of their mouth blow a HUGE hole in their argument/s. Just flip da' script and imagine it was repz crying foul and you had this plethora of quotes and video showing these repz completely contradicting themselves and redirecting blame on issues which they are completely saturated in. Would not point out the hypocrisy or would you just sit on your hands? I'm just using logic and common sense. What we are witnessing is complete ignorance sprinkled w/ arrogance from todays democratic party and the handful of Repz who are either positioning themselves for the 2008 presidential election or the mid-term elections. Pure POLITRIX on display my friend! As for SOCOM,,,,,,HUH? Why would I be worried about SoCom or how they're treating me? I'm done, I'm out of the Navy. I did my time. I've got my medals. I went in @ 17 and was honorably discharged in 1999. I'm done. I've lived in Europe and the mid east. So, on these current issues,,,I GET IT! It's unfortunate that so many think they get it yet their posts couldn't be more wrong. Ignorance fueled by hate, masked w/ pseduo-intellect and rage play to only one crowd: The misguided and uninformed.

I'm wit ya' Igloo! Liberals and moderate Repz are too worried about holding on to their power or trying to get more power. I think it's pathetic. On the flip side, I think this is a fight which must be fought! Let's lay out all the cards. Let's debate this shit! Let America see where libz and conservs stand and let the people decide.

Coming from you, I can only say "Thank you" Shouldn't you be sprinkling yourself in glitter, eating 2 or 3 rolls and twirling glow-stix?

Where Are the Pentagon Papers? The administration refuses to defend itself. by Stephen F. Hayes 11/21/2005, Volume 011, Issue 10 WHEN SENATOR CARL LEVIN REQUESTED the partial declassification of a Defense Intelligence Agency report in mid-October, the response was swift: He had it in his hands in eight days, reports the New York Times. If only I were a senator. For two years, I have been working to obtain copies of unclassified documents discovered in postwar Iraq. My reasoning is simple: If we understand what the Iraqi regime was doing in the months and years before the war, we will be better able to assess the nature of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein and, perhaps, to better understand the insurgency. It's not a light subject, to be sure. But the quest for the documents, while frustrating, has also been highly amusing. It is a story of bureaucratic incompetence and strategic incoherence. It is also a story--this one not funny at all--about the failure to explain the Iraq war. Two years after I started my pursuit, I'm not much closer to my goal. Why? I have been told countless times by officials of the executive branch that there is no need to reargue the case for war, that what matters now is winning on the ground, that our intelligence professionals don't have time to review history, so occupied are they with current intelligence about current threats. I'm sympathetic to at least part of that thinking; it's hard to insist in the face of new and evolving threats that intelligence analysts should spend their precious time evaluating the past. So if the intelligence professionals don't have time to analyze the papers left behind by Saddam Hussein's government, why not let the press and private-sector scholars do it? Besides, in the end, the notion that the Bush administration doesn't need to continue to make the case for war is shortsighted. Talk to senior American diplomats and military officers in Iraq today and they will tell you that the insurgents closely monitor the debate here in the United States. As domestic support for the war dwindles, the insurgents increasingly believe they can win; they fight harder, they raise more money, they gain new recruits. If these U.S. officials are correct, then continuing to make the case for war in Iraq--to remind people with specifics, not platitudes, why we're fighting--is not a distraction but a central component of fighting to win. Talk to Sen. John McCain, who urges "a renewed effort to win the homefront," lest we lose sight of this fact: "Success or failure in Iraq is the transcendent issue for our foreign policy and our national security, for now and years to come." Said McCain, speaking at the American Enterprise Institute last week, "A renewed effort at home starts with explaining precisely what is at stake in this war--not to alarm Americans, but so that they see the nature of this struggle for what it is. The president cannot do this alone." I DON'T REMEMBER when I first heard about the project in Doha, Qatar, but I do remember that I was very interested in learning more about it. The effort, led by Central Command with assistance from the Defense Intelligence Agency, is reviewing the detritus of the former Iraqi regime: videotapes, photographs, and many, many documents. One aspect of the effort is something called "Doc-Ex," short for document exploitation. Several intelligence analysts, together with several dozen translators, most of them from Jordan, are sifting through millions of pages of documents unearthed in Iraq after the toppling of the regime. It's not an easy job. Some of the documents are forged. Others are hard to read after being damaged by fire, or the water used to extinguish those fires, in the days and weeks after the U.S. invasion. Making the job even more difficult is the fact that many of these documents have come from larger sets of documents that never made it to Doha. We know that the Iraqi regime in the run-up to war systematically destroyed what it considered the most incriminating evidence of its misdeeds. So our analysts are essentially looking at isolated pieces of a much larger puzzle without knowing whether they will ever have the remaining pieces. The document collection effort in Iraq was haphazard, to say the least. No comprehensive guidance was ever provided to soldiers and intelligence officials on what exactly they should collect. This lack of direction meant that in many cases unit commanders made decisions about what to gather and what to discard. When David Kay ran the Iraq Survey Group searching for weapons of mass destruction, he instructed his team to ignore anything not directly related to the regime's WMD efforts. As a consequence, documents describing the regime's training and financing of terrorists were labeled "No Intelligence Value" and often discarded, according to two sources. Still, the job in Qatar is daunting. When I spoke to a senior intelligence official last January about the progress being made on the document exploitation project, the official said he hoped all the documents would be "eyeballed"--not translated and evaluated, merely looked at--at least once by August. When I pressed him, saying that timeline seemed unrealistically optimistic, he shrugged. "Probably." It was. According to several officials familiar with the project, analysts and translators are still swimming in documents. They often work in two shifts, day and night, but the total manpower devoted to the project is less than 200 people. There have been discussions about outsourcing the work--perhaps to the Iraq Memory Foundation, formerly affiliated with Harvard University--but no final decision has been made. I formalized my interest in the project and these documents with a written request to the Pentagon press office in February 2005. I was interested in seeing some of the documents and said I was willing to travel to Doha if necessary. Despite vague promises of help, nothing happened. Working outside formal Pentagon lines of inquiry, I soon learned more. Many of the documents from Doha had been entered into a database known as HARMONY. HARMONY is a thick stew of reports and findings from a variety of intelligence agencies and military units, and alongside the Iraqi documents were reports from contributing U.S. agencies. Eventually, I got a list of document titles that seemed particularly interesting: 1. Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) Correspondence to Iraq Embassy in the Philippines and Iraq MFA (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) 2. Possible al Qaeda Terror Members in Iraq 3. IIS report on Taliban-Iraq Connections Claims 4. Money Transfers from Iraq to Afghanistan 5. IIS Agent in Bulgaria 6. Iraqi Intel report on Kurdish Activities: Mention of Kurdish Report on al Qaeda--reference to al Qaeda presence in Salman Pak 7. IIS report about the relationship between IIS and the Kurdish Group Jalal Talibani [sic] 8. Iraqi Mukhabarat Structure 9. Locations of Weapons/Ammunition Storage (with map) 10. Iraqi Effort to Cooperate with Saudi Opposition Groups and Individuals 11. Order from Saddam to present $25,000 to Palestinian Suicide Bombers Families 12. IIS reports from Embassy in Paris: Plan to Influence French Stance on U.N. Security Council 13. IIS Importing and Hiding High Tech Computers in Violation of UN 14. IIS request to move persons, documents to private residences 15. Formulas and information about Iraq's Chemical Weapons Agents 16. Denial and Deception of WMD and Killing of POWs 17. 1987 orders by Hussein to use chemical weapons in the Ealisan Basin 18. Ricin research and improvement 19. Personnel file of Saad Mohammad Abd Hammadi al Deliemi 20. Memo from the Arab Liaison Committee: With a list of personnel in need of official documents 21. Fedayeen Saddam Responds to IIS regarding rumors of citizens aiding Afghanistan 22. Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity 23. Improvised Explosive Devices Plan 24. IIS reports on How French Campaigns are Financed 25. French and German relationships with Iraq 26. IIS reports about Russian Companies--News articles and potential IIS agents 27. IIS plan for 2000 of Europe's Influence of Iraq Strategy 28. IIS plans to infiltrate countries and collect information to help remove sanctions 29. Correspondence from IIS and the stations in Europe 30. Contract for satellite pictures between Russia, France and Iraq: Pictures of Neighboring Countries (Dec. 2002) 31. Chemical Gear for Fedayeen Saddam 32. Memo from the IIS to Hide Information from a U.N. Inspection team (1997) 33. Chemical Agent Purchase Orders (Dec. 2001) 34. Iraq Ministry of Defense Calls for Investigation into why documents related to WMD were found by UN inspection team 35. Correspondence between various Iraq organizations giving instructions to hide chemicals and equipment 36. Correspondence from IIS to MIC regarding information gathered by foreign intelligence satellites on WMD (Dec. 2002) 37. Correspondence from IIS to Iraqi Embassy in Malaysia 38. Cleaning chemical suits and how to hide chemicals 39. IIS plan of what to do during UNSCOM inspections (1996) 40. Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government (Nov. 2000) There are thousands of similar documents. Most of them are unclassified. That's important: Most of them are unclassified. Because I'd been told that these documents are all unclassified, I requested copies from the Pentagon press office. For reasons I still do not entirely understand, the Pentagon would not provide them. Captain Roxie Merritt, the director of Pentagon press operations, suggested I file a Freedom of Information Act request. I did so on June 19, 2005. Two weeks later I received a letter from the Pentagon's Office of Freedom of Information and Security Review. The information you requested is under the cognizance of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA). We have referred your request to them at the address provided below requesting they respond directly to you. Defense Intelligence Agency Attn: SVI-1, Room E4-234 Washington, DC 20340-5100 On July 22, 2005, I emailed Captain Merritt in the Pentagon public affairs office. Captain Merritt was then--and remained throughout the process--gracious and professional. I got the feeling she was being as helpful as the bureaucracy would allow her to be. She wrote: DIA FOIA has confirmed they have your request. Here is the challenge as they described it to me. "This is not a simple request. . . . There are multiple agencies/ organizations involved. It isn't as though the documents are laying around in a neat pile waiting for someone to ask for them. The most logical place for the requested documents to be is in a database known as HARMONY. INSCOM (NGIC) is the program manager (owner) of HARMONY, but as they are quick to point out, "anyone" can enter items into the database, so they do not consider themselves the "owner" of the information in the database. Whoever input the information into HARMONY is the release authority of that information and you can't determine who that is until you find the requested documents. For the 44 requested documents, you're talking mega-hours of searching. Of course, the documents may not even be in HARMONY, which would require searching elsewhere (our FOIA folks are looking into that as well). Our FOIA monitor is talking with INSCOM to determine the most efficient way of retrieving the requested documents." I didn't understand it either. For weeks I heard nothing. So on August 23, 2005, I emailed Captain Merritt again. She responded quickly. Steve, Had my folks check. . . . DIA referred the request to Army's INSCOM which does FOIA on behalf of NGIC . . . the owner of HARMONY. I asked if they had advised you of the referral . . . they had not, but will do so. In early September I received a letter from the DIA. This responds to your request under the Freedom of Information Act dated 19 June 2005. Therein you requested from the Department of Defense 43 documents. Your request was referred to the Defense Intelligence Agency on 1 July 2005 and assigned case number 0622-05. The thrill of having been assigned a DIA case number was short-lived. I learned in the next paragraph that the DIA was no longer handling the request. These documents are under the purview of the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command and your request has been forwarded to that organization for processing and direct response to you. On September 14, 2005, I emailed Captain Merritt and asked for a contact name at INSCOM. She tasked a subordinate to get back to me. That never happened. Then, two weeks later, I received a letter dated September 20, 2005. It came from the FOIA office of the Army's Intelligence and Security Command at Fort Meade, Maryland. Once again, I had gotten a case number. And once again the case number was meaningless. Since additional time is needed to search for records at another element of our command, we are unable to comply with the statutory 20-day time limit in processing your request. Therefore, you may consider this an administrative denial of your request . . . And so I did. SOME OF THE DOCUMENT TITLES I requested are suggestive, others less so. It's possible that the "Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity" was critical of one or another Taliban policies. But it's equally possible, given Uday's known role as a go-between for the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda, that something more nefarious was afoot. What was discussed at the "Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government" in November 2000? It could be something innocuous. Maybe not. But it would be nice to know more. Was there really a contract for satellite pictures among Russia, France, and Iraq in December 2002? That would have been a mere three months before the war, at a time when France was telling the U.S. government it supported "serious consequences" for Iraqi noncompliance with U.N. inspections. One of the documents, "Iraqi Efforts to Cooperate with Saudi Opposition Groups and Individuals," had been provided to the New York Times last summer. Thom Shanker, one of the Times's best reporters, wrote a story based on the document, which was an internal Iraqi Intelligence memo. The Iraqi document revealed that a Sudanese government official met with Uday Hussein and the director of the Iraqi Intelligence Service in 1994 and reported that bin Laden was willing to meet in Sudan. Bin Laden, according to the Iraqi document, was then "approached by our side" after "presidential approval" for the liaison was given. The former head of Iraqi Intelligence Directorate 4 met with bin Laden on February 19, 1995. The document further states that bin Laden "had some reservations about being labeled an Iraqi operative"--a comment that suggests the possibility had been discussed. (According to another Iraqi Intelligence document, authenticated by the DIA and first reported on 60 Minutes, the regime considered bin Laden an "Iraqi Intelligence asset" as early as 1992, though it's unclear that bin Laden shared this view.) According to a report in the Times, bin Laden requested that Iraq's state-run television network broadcast anti-Saudi propaganda; the document indicates that the Iraqis agreed to do this. The al Qaeda leader also proposed "joint operations against foreign forces" in Saudi Arabia. There is no Iraqi response provided in the documents. When bin Laden left Sudan for Afghanistan in May 1996, the Iraqis sought "other channels through which to handle the relationship, in light of his current location." The IIS memo directs that "cooperation between the two organizations should be allowed to develop freely through discussion and agreement." What kind of cooperation resulted from this discussion and agreement? You'd think the U.S. government, journalists, and policy types--not to mention attentive citizens--would want to know more. You'd think they'd be eager. Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard. © Copyright 2005, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.

What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JANUARY 30, 2004 | Printable Version "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source

World Net Daily? That's it? What about Fox and NewsMax? Damn, that's 3....How many sites do you granola chompin', soy milk drink'n, hemp clothes wearing socialists have? Let me see??????/ ABC,NBC,CBS,NPR,PBS,CNN,MSNBC.....Take your pick....... You guys have more than double and you still find a way to get it ALL wrong. Ta-ta-ta,,,,I think I can, I think I can????????? Which way did he go Jorge, which way did he go? Repeat after me: "YOU ARE A TARD" "YOU ARE A TOOL" Don't you have some SUV to bombard w/ molotov cocktails? Somewhere, there is a caribou praying you'll save them from HALLIBURTON! lol mamao!

BRUTO! IMBESIL! MOGAGO! DUMBASS! That vid was in Mississippi which got completely LEVELED by Katrina. The guy screaming "go fuck yourself" was an idiot who just doesn't like Cheney. It's that simple. As for you the cute little reference to "spinning".......Look no further than all of these Democrats w/ their pseudo-rage about WMD's after being on the record, several times, FOR YEARS(even prior to Bush taking office) claiming we needed to get rid of Saddam. You want spin, just turn on the tv. Tag, Your it PUTA!

Korean Reds Targeting Christians BY MEGHAN CLYNE - Staff Reporter of the Sun November 16, 2005 URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/23082 WASHINGTON - A woman in her 20s executed by a firing squad after being caught with a Bible. Five Christian church leaders punished by being run over by a steamroller before a crowd of spectators who "cried, screamed out, or fainted when the skulls made a popping sound as they were crushed." These and other "horrifying" violations of human rights and religious freedom in North Korea are reported in a new study by the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, titled "'Thank You, Father Kim Il Sung': Eyewitness Accounts of Severe Violations of Freedom of Thought, Conscience, and Religion in North Korea." The report, released yesterday, comes as President Bush is touring Asia, calling for increased political freedom. In remarks prepared for delivery early this morning in Japan, the president called on Red China to extend more freedom to its population of 1.3 billion. In an advance text of the speech, President Bush also extolled Taiwan, which Beijing considers a renegade province, as "a free and democratic Chinese society." And the president noted North Korean human rights abuses while reassuring the Hermit Kingdom's people. "Satellite maps of North Korea show prison camps the size of whole cities," Mr. Bush said. "We will not forget the people of North Korea." Yesterday on Capitol Hill the chairman of the Commission on International Religious Freedom, Michael Cromartie, and two members of Congress who helped establish the commission, Reps. Frank Wolf of Virginia and Chris Smith of New Jersey, called on Mr. Bush to include the specific findings of the North Korean report in his diplomatic discussions with Chinese and South Korean officials this week, and to urge leaders of both Asian nations to take a firmer stand against their communist neighbor. Mr. Cromartie told The New York Sun after the event that senior administration officials at the National Security Council had been provided with an advance copy of the report so that Mr. Bush could raise particular human rights abuses with his Chinese and South Korean interlocutors. Mr. Cromartie said yesterday during the study's unveiling on Capitol Hill that the report was unique in its depth and breadth, and in the quantity of first-hand accounts, since it is notoriously difficult to obtain reliable information from inside North Korea, owing to the country's complete isolation under the Kim dictatorship. Among the first-hand reports are eyewitness accounts of Christians' being executed for the underground practice of their faith. The study recounts, for example, how in November 1996 in North Korea's South Pyongan province, a unit of the North Korean army was tasked with widening a highway connecting Pyongyang to a nearby port city. While demolishing a vacant house, soldiers found in the basement, hidden between two bricks, a Bible and a list of 25 names. Among the list were individuals identified as a Christian pastor, two assistant pastors, two elders, and 20 parishioners who were identified by their occupations. Hunted down at their workplaces by military police, the 25 Christians were rounded up and detained without any formal judicial procedure. Later that month, the parishioners and their clergy were brought to the road construction site, where spectators had been arranged in neat rows to observe the public execution of the pastor, assistant pastors, and elders. According to a report based on an eyewitness account, the five church leaders "were bound hand and foot and made to lie down in front of a steamroller," accused of subversion and of being Kiddokyo, or Protestant Christian, spies. The 20 parishioners were detained near their clergy, and watched, along with the assembled audience, as the five Christian leaders were told they could escape death if they denied their faith and pledged to serve only Kim Jong Il and his father, the first dictator of communist Korea, Kim Il Sung. According to the eyewitness, the clergy remained silent. For their steadfast belief, the Christians were executed. According to the report, "Some of the fellow parishioners assembled to watch the execution cried, screamed out, or fainted when the skulls made a popping sound as they were crushed beneath the steamroller." Another account contained in the report says that on a summer day in North Korea in 1997, a young woman was washing clothes in a tributary of the Tumen River when she dropped a small Bible she had hidden amid the laundry. Spotted by a fellow washerwoman, the girl was reported to North Korean authorities on the suspicion that she was engaging in an exercise of thought or religion condemned by the state. The girl, believed to be in her 20s, and her father, estimated to be around 60, were arrested by local national security police and imprisoned for three months. One morning, they were taken to a public market area, where, after a brief show trial, the father and daughter were condemned as traitors to the North Korean nation and its communist dictator, Kim Jong Il. The father and daughter were then tied to stakes a few meters from where they had been "tried," and, before an assembly of schoolchildren, were riddled with bullets by seven policemen who fired three shots each into the pair. According to a report drawn from eyewitness accounts, "The force of the rifle shots, fired from fifteen meters away, caused blood and brain matter to be blown out of their heads." The study was compiled by the author of "Hidden Gulag: Exposing North Korea's Prison Camps," David Hawk, who was assisted by two South Korean researchers, Jae Chunwon and Philo Kim. Together they interviewed 40 re cent North Korean defectors to gain insight into the religious lives of average North Koreans. From the interviews, according to Mr. Cromartie, the Commission had obtained a "horrifying picture" of the abuses suffered by Christians and other believers in North Korea. All of the interviewees had fled to South Korea through China, which has become something of a "safety valve" for North Koreans fleeing religious persecution, Mr. Smith told the Sun yesterday. According to the study, China has received a flood of refugees fleeing the Kim dictatorship, and between 50,000 and 100,000 North Korean exiles remain in China, the commission reported. China, however, considers dissident North Koreans "economic migrants" subject to repatriation, and the study presents a dismal account of those forced to return to North Korea. According to one defector who was grilled by North Korean border guards, the Kim regime fears that "Juche will be toppled by Christianity," referring to the state ideology, and exercises brutal control over North Koreans who have been exposed to Chinese or South Korean Christian churches. According to the study, in order to preserve the complete control Kim Jong Il exercises over his subjects' minds, repatriated North Koreans are harshly interrogated to determine whether they will infect their countrymen with ideas and information obtained abroad, and Christian believers are often slapped with long prison sentences and hard labor, punishments sometimes passed on to their families and descendants. The documented fear of Christianity is accompanied by an extensive account of the pervasiveness of the Kims' cult of personality, and the title of the study, "Thank you, Father Kim Il-Sung," refers to the phrase North Korean parents are required to first teach their children. November 16, 2005 Edition > Section: Foreign > Printer-Friendly Version

Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2005 11:36 p.m. EST Keith Olbermann Lobbying for Bill O'Reilly's Firing? Did MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" pull the plug on a guest because she refused to call for Fox News Channel host Bill O'Reilly's firing? The day before the election, O’Reilly interviewed Angela Alioto, former president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. The topic: The city's Proposition I - a resolution declaring that "the people of San Francisco oppose the federal government's use of public schools to recruit students for service in the military." While O'Reilly was aghast over the proposition, Alioto complained the military was going into junior high school and "recruiting 12-year-olds." On his radio show the next day, O'Reilly suggested that the military had no obligation to protect any locality that banned military recruitment, then joked that if he were president he'd announce: "If al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to [al Qaeda] except San Francisco." The comment enraged San Francisco officials, with several calling for O'Reilly's firing. A source tells NewsMax that Olbermann's staff invited Alioto on his show Tuesday night, expecting that she would echo calls for O'Reilly's head. A producer is said to have asked, "Now, you’re calling for O’Reilly’s firing, right?” She told him that she wasn’t - explaining that the Fox host was merely exercising his first amendment rights. With that, Alioto's segment was canceled. But it looks like Olbermann's staff got what they wanted after all, replacing Alioto with Chris Daly, a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, "You know, this is dangerous," Daly told Olbermann on the air. "Fox News and Westwood One need to take some accountability for this and terminate Bill O'Reilly's employment." ------------------ Call me crazy but.............. does freedom of speech only apply to liberals while a conservative is president? I LOVE IT! Libz can dish it out, but just can't take it! I'm gonna start changing the way I address libz. Instead of libz, I'll use CLITS, for their ubber-sensitivity.

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