sexxyh Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Originally posted by hoke I'll agree reluctantly that on a very impersonal level, FIBBING is occasionally one of those necessary evils... however, on a very personal level, when it comes to friends and lovers, LYING is not okay in my book. ~~~ fibbing and little white lies are fine....but complete lying is the worst thing anyone can do.....besides in my case i get terrible guilt when i lie so i dont want to put myself thru that so to me honesty does pay out in the end:shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoke Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Originally posted by sexxyh i get terrible guilt when i lieSame. It hurts me to lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideskies Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Ode on a Grecian Urn by John Keats Thou still unravish'd bride of quietness, Thou foster-child of silence and slow time, Sylvan historian, who canst thus express A flowery tale more sweetly than our rhyme: What leaf-fring'd legend haunts about thy shape Of deities or mortals, or of both, In Tempe or the dales of Arcady? What men or gods are these? What maidens loth? What mad pursuit? What struggle to escape? What pipes and timbrels? What wild ecstasy? Heard melodies are sweet, but those unheard Are sweeter; therefore, ye soft pipes, play on; Not to the sensual ear, but, more endear'd, Pipe to the spirit ditties of no tone: Fair youth, beneath the trees, thou canst not leave Thy song, nor ever can those trees be bare; Bold Lover, never, never canst thou kiss, Though winning near the goal yet, do not grieve; She cannot fade, though thou hast not thy bliss, For ever wilt thou love, and she be fair! Ah, happy, happy boughs! that cannot shed Your leaves, nor ever bid the Spring adieu; And, happy melodist, unwearied, For ever piping songs for ever new; More happy love! more happy, happy love! For ever warm and still to be enjoy'd, For ever panting, and for ever young; All breathing human passion far above, That leaves a heart high-sorrowful and cloy'd, A burning forehead, and a parching tongue. Who are these coming to the sacrifice? To what green altar, O mysterious priest, Lead'st thou that heifer lowing at the skies, And all her silken flanks with garlands drest? What little town by river or sea shore, Or mountain-built with peaceful citadel, Is emptied of this folk, this pious morn? And, little town, thy streets for evermore Will silent be; and not a soul to tell Why thou art desolate, can e'er return. O Attic shape! Fair attitude! with brede Of marble men and maidens overwrought, With forest branches and the trodden weed; Thou, silent form, dost tease us out of thought As doth eternity: Cold Pastoral! When old age shall this generation waste, Thou shalt remain, in midst of other woe Than ours, a friend to man, to whom thou say'st, "Beauty is truth, truth beauty,--that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachel1997 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Originally posted by shlongus rachel1997---nice cartoon wiht hebrew writting....its phat......Ata ledaber ivret? ata medaber ivrit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachel1997 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 The truth will always come out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozi8 Posted June 23 Author Report Share Posted June 23 well, it's nice to know I have honest friends now, if someone was always honest with you, what would ever cause you to think that they would lie to you all of a sudden? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachel1997 Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 Originally posted by snoozi8 well, it's nice to know I have honest friends now, if someone was always honest with you, what would ever cause you to think that they would lie to you all of a sudden? that they are messed up, and trying to cover for something they did against me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by rachel1997 that they are messed up, and trying to cover for something they did against me... or you actually lied to them and they found out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpander Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by rachel1997 The truth will always come out.... That'd make a nice adage, but it's probably false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by xpander That'd make a nice adage, but it's probably false. don't bet on that... sometimes it just takes a while... but theres almost ALWAYS a leak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 wise man once say:"truth is like gay in closet... it eventually, come out" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by joeg don't bet on that... sometimes it just takes a while... but theres almost ALWAYS a leak... . . For some things, I agree . . . But there ARE events and truths that all people that that will NEVER come out, no matter how much time elapses . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpander Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by joeg don't bet on that... sometimes it just takes a while... but theres almost ALWAYS a leak... See, here's the thing. Once people start hearing secrets, they tend to think that that's the trend. But I ask anyone this question, out of all the "secrets and lies" that you hear revealed, how many are NOT revealed?So, if you think that the truths always come out, Joe. Do you know which truths don't come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpander Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by joeg wise man once say:"truth is like gay in closet... it eventually, come out" wow...that is one dumbfuck wiseman... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barvybe Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by snoozi8 In relationships, work, just plain old life in general.... does being honest with people benefit you in the end..... so far I've found that it doesn't..... anyone? honesty is always best cause without it who are u really? everything just becomes bullshit.my opinion: people to lie either:1. have shit to hide that would make them look bad and they are too weak to deal with that2. are jackasses who don't give a shit about anything other than themselves.if you're honest and people step on you, you're hanging out with the wrong people.in relationships if you don't have trust you're just having sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 very true... theres a lot that DOESN'T come out I suppose...and you don't know what they are... because... well... it hasn't come out... (As xpander was saying)so I guess i'll rephrase in saying: If someone lies frequently... eventually, atleast 1 or more lies will come out... casting doubt on anything/everything that person has said/ever will say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozi8 Posted June 24 Author Report Share Posted June 24 I wasn't speaking about people who lie.... I was speaking about someone who is truthful, even when it hurts, but still gets shit on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barvybe Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 and my point was if you tell the truth and get shit on you should be hanging out with different people.of course, telling the truth doesn't mean telling people stuff they already know but don't want to hear cause that's just annoying. sometimes its better to just say nothing and not be involved or move on to different people if you're getting shit on by the ones you're hanging with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roha3000 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Screw all this honesty crap. I say lie till you can't lie no more. And when you get caught in a lie, make up another one to get out of it. LIE LIE LIE UNTIL YOU DIE DIE DIE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by barvybe and my point was if you tell the truth and get shit on you should be hanging out with different people.of course, telling the truth doesn't mean telling people stuff they already know but don't want to hear cause that's just annoying. sometimes its better to just say nothing and not be involved or move on to different people if you're getting shit on by the ones you're hanging with. I would venture to say that is common sense... but then again... you know what happens when you start assuming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Originally posted by barvybe of course, telling the truth doesn't mean telling people stuff they already know but don't want to hear cause that's just annoying. sometimes its better to just say nothing and not be involved or move on to different people if you're getting shit on by the ones you're hanging with. . . . very well spoken . . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoozi8 Posted June 24 Author Report Share Posted June 24 yes very well put Petey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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