sassa Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by phatman ...actually, we have a lot more in common than you think...BUT...a few posts ago the word "you" was smothered everywhere...that to me is the epitome of personal...but that's just me...as long as joeg doesnt mind...i should actually thank you...you've inspired me to go home and reread my copy of Socrates' Republic...esp. since i think that's where your reference is coming from and i think it may be a bit out of context...but good reading nonetheless...tanx... ........i doubt it. but whatever floats your boat. enjoy reading the republic, i died from boredom doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by joeg I don't care, and its not relevant to the topic at hand... which was me stating that I hate the middle east. To be honest, I probably don't have an answer, I pay very little attention to other contries and their stupidity, because of said media bias. ...and you are completely entitled to be this way. i'm just annoyed more people don't know about the wrong things going on in this world, masked by cheesy corrupt politicians who smile in our faces and tell us everything is good, then turn around and milk a billion dollars from starving women and children...but i guess THAT'S life.if i was an alien and saw this shit from above, i'd blow up the planet. we are a fucked up species. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted July 18 Author Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by sassa ...and you are completely entitled to be this way. i'm just annoyed more people don't know about the wrong things going on in this world, masked by cheesy corrupt politicians who smile in our faces and tell us everything is good, then turn around and milk a billion dollars from starving women and children...but i guess THAT'S life.if i was an alien and saw this shit from above, i'd blow up the planet. we are a fucked up species. I completely agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted July 18 Author Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by phatman ...actually, we have a lot more in common than you think...BUT...a few posts ago the word "you" was smothered everywhere...that to me is the epitome of personal...but that's just me...as long as joeg doesnt mind...appreciate the notion... but I enjoyed the conversation, and wasn't offended... she brought up some good points. "you" is a dangerous thing to use, but I don't feel she was making personal "attacks" as much as trying to use me as an example of her opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by joeg I don't care, and its not relevant to the topic at hand... which was me stating that I hate the middle east. To be honest, I probably don't have an answer, I pay very little attention to other contries and their stupidity, because of said media bias. . . . I'm not trying to be a dick here or anything . . but the bottom sentence kinda undercuts the rhyme and reason of the first sentence . . . . . To say you hate something without exploring the facts is baseless and ignorant . . . People used to hate gays in this country because of the simple fact that the religious and social convention of the day was just to hate it "because God said so" . . that's an advocacy of ignorance if you ask me . . .Now . . through communication and enlightenment, we know better . . . Same thing goes for the poor . . . In a way, that statement you made kinda exposes what's wrong with alot of the leadership in this country . . . Many many of them refuse to learn about the unknown, because to do so would acknowledge that the problems we are presented have more complex causes than ever thought possible . .. . . . Again, I'm not meaning to be an asshole, but statements like that just get me going . . . . . P.S. . . I'm still ghosting those godforsaken machines . . . .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by joeg appreciate the notion... but I enjoyed the conversation, and wasn't offended... she brought up some good points. "you" is a dangerous thing to use, but I don't feel she was making personal "attacks" as much as trying to use me as an example of her opinion... you got it, big boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted July 18 Author Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by phuturephunk . . . I'm not trying to be a dick here or anything . . but the bottom sentence kinda undercuts the rhyme and reason of the first sentence . . . . . To say you hate something without exploring the facts is baseless and ignorant . . . People used to hate gays in this country because of the simple fact that the religious and social convention of the day was just to hate it "because God said so" . . that's an advocacy of ignorance if you ask me . . .Now . . through communication and enlightenment, we know better . . . Same thing goes for the poor . . . In a way, that statement you made kinda exposes what's wrong with alot of the leadership in this country . . . Many many of them refuse to learn about the unknown, because to do so would acknowledge that the problems we are presented have more complex causes than ever thought possible . .. . . . Again, I'm not meaning to be an asshole, but statements like that just get me going . . . . . P.S. . . I'm still ghosting those godforsaken machines . . . .. fair point... but I was reffering more to the details of the foreign countries than the common knowledge/type of government...ie. I can't argue the benefits of 1 middle eastern country against the next with you, but I know ENOUGH about both of them to say I don't want any part of it whatsoever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatman Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by joeg appreciate the notion... but I enjoyed the conversation, and wasn't offended... she brought up some good points. "you" is a dangerous thing to use, but I don't feel she was making personal "attacks" as much as trying to use me as an example of her opinion... no worries...i just came to my epiphany that i hate sassa...for the sole reason that she plays two sides of the field...one minute she is trying to bond and commune with the common folk (i.e. the sexboarders) and the next she is up on a pedastool spewing self-riteous babble...but at this point, i take consolation in the fact the feeling is mutual...and now that i've realized it is a very negative thing, i'm going to work on getting it out of my system...this is after all just a pubic forum...i mean public forum...and i should not take such things to heart...me go now...buh-bye... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by joeg fair point... but I was reffering more to the details of the foreign countries than the common knowledge/type of government...ie. I can't argue the benefits of 1 middle eastern country against the next with you, but I know ENOUGH about both of them to say I don't want any part of it whatsoever... . . . see, that's the problem . . So many people in this country have heard nothing but the crap they spew from Fox News that they either A) rabidly hate anyone a darker shade than eggshell or throw their hands up in the air and say "Fuck it, kill em all cause I don't care, all I know is I want them off my fucking television set" . . . Both scenarios in effect giving our government free license to do what it pleases with other countries . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by phatman no worries...i just came to my epiphany that i hate sassa...for the sole reason that she plays two sides of the field...one minute she is trying to bond and commune with the common folk (i.e. the sexboarders) and the next she is up on a pedastool spewing self-riteous babble...but at this point, i take consolation in the fact the feeling is mutual...and now that i've realized it is a very negative thing, i'm going to work on getting it out of my system...this is after all just a pubic forum...i mean public forum...and i should not take such things to heart...me go now...buh-bye... i love you too... you don't even know me to say something as moronic as this.i'm not self-righteous...i'm HONEST. if you don't like it, then don't read or comment on my shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted July 18 Author Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by phuturephunk . . . see, that's the problem . . So many people in this country have heard nothing but the crap they spew from Fox News that they either A) rabidly hate anyone a darker shade than eggshell or throw their hands up in the air and say "Fuck it, kill em all cause I don't care, all I know is I want them off my fucking television set" . . . Both scenarios in effect giving our government free license to do what it pleases with other countries . . . Clarification: I don't hate the "people," I hate the country/area...like i said before, I know enough to know that the crap i can do here to benefit myself won't fly over there... and that is why I like the US...I'm not making any judgement calls on morality or anything... i'm just saying it doesn't work for my needs... and thus... I don't want anything to do with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by joeg Clarification: I don't hate the "people," I hate the country/area...like i said before, I know enough to know that the crap i can do here to benefit myself won't fly over there... and that is why I like the US...I'm not making any judgement calls on morality or anything... i'm just saying it doesn't work for my needs... and thus... I don't want anything to do with it... . . (aight, I'm gonna continue with this cause it's good at breaking the tedium of what I'm doing in the lab) . . . 1. You state you hate the country/area but not the people : That's an idiotic comment in and of itself. How can you actually hate the landmass that is the middle east . . I can understand an aversion to dry heat, but c'mon . .you could probably find some nice property over there2. What could you possibly do to benefit yourself, without infringing on others that would be considered damning in the eyes of any country's law? (Religious choices and sexual orientation EXCLUDED, because those are different cases) . . How does Good Work, the ONLY means through which to better yourself, bring punishment?3. You are taking a moral stance . . You're choosing the morality of ignorance . . . that if it's out of site, it doesn't matter . . . and ALSO, that if the conventional wizdom is to hate and not care, then all subjects deemed worthy of the above two sentiments are automatically deserving of it . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Just so you know Israel is a democracy in the middle east. The amount of ignorance on clubplanet never ceases to amaze me. You know what guys, "I don't like antartica but I like ice, duuuuhhh." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by t0nythelover Just so you know Israel is a democracy in the middle east. The amount of ignorance on clubplanet never ceases to amaze me. You know what guys, "I don't like antartica but I like ice, duuuuhhh." it's "supposed" to be a democracy you're right. but i know for a fact that if you're not jewish, you can't do shit in israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted July 18 Author Report Share Posted July 18 Originally posted by phuturephunk . . (aight, I'm gonna continue with this cause it's good at breaking the tedium of what I'm doing in the lab) . . . 1. You state you hate the country/area but not the people : That's an idiotic comment in and of itself. How can you actually hate the landmass that is the middle east . . I can understand an aversion to dry heat, but c'mon . .you could probably find some nice property over there2. What could you possibly do to benefit yourself, without infringing on others that would be considered damning in the eyes of any country's law? (Religious choices and sexual orientation EXCLUDED, because those are different cases) . . How does Good Work, the ONLY means through which to better yourself, bring punishment?3. You are taking a moral stance . . You're choosing the morality of ignorance . . . that if it's out of site, it doesn't matter . . . and ALSO, that if the conventional wizdom is to hate and not care, then all subjects deemed worthy of the above two sentiments are automatically deserving of it . . . 1. now THAT was idiotic... don't play symantics... I hate the countries, the political identity with all their own rules and regulations that comprise them. I'm sure the land is nice and all...2. business, hierarchies, and everyday laws are MUCH different there... you can get away with a lot, and move yourself up the chain a lot faster here in the right scenarios... you think i'd have a desent job over there at my age with my official education? comon...3. I don't give a rat's ass what goes on in those countries... I'm not going to sit around and be a martyr for something that isn't changing within my lifetime... hey, how many people are trying to figure out what to do when the sun burns out in 3920523905903259032590 billion years? not many.... why? because none of us will be here to see it, and none of us care... yourself included... Its great to play the moral game, but i don't want to be the guy on my deathbed crying about how my life didn't accomplish anything and everything is the same as it was when i started... i'm going to drive my highperformance vehicle with their sickeningly overpriced gasoline... and by my clothes from their sweatshops, and everything else we ALL do on a daily basis, and not pretend I care... and still do it.Tony: I didn't specify any country... but don't be stupid... its a democracy... ok great... so they aren't getting terrorist attacks every 15 minutes? LIKE I SAID: I hate the middle east, i'm staying in the US... how many of you guys are planning your next trip out there?? oh right... thanks... again... AGAIN.... please refer to my soap box derby thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0nythelover Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 you mean if i go to israel i cant join a kabutz! damn:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpoppanils Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Sassa, not all WASP's are evil greedy bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintron Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 this entire thread is weak, as are the people discussing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycetouch Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 joeg: objectivismsassa: socialismI'm with you joeg, man is an end in himself, I'm not gonna worry about other people's welfare when I cant do anything about it. Not to mention that I got my own shit to worry about. I grew up in a communist country and you quickly learn that taking care of your own skin is the only thing that matters. I like it much better here and wouldnt move to the middle east for a million dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abortionator Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Right...Right...Well anyway, they're gonna put this guy in a SACK and THROW him off a CLIFF. That'll show him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassa Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Originally posted by bigpoppanils Sassa, not all WASP's are evil greedy bastards I NEVER said this, don't put words in my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyepic18 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 yeah, iran, talk about a great justice system.i know that guy desvered it, but execution is their answer to everything.get caught with smuggling weed and you get hanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echostar Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echostar Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 Originally posted by sassa it's funny how someone can hate a place they've probably never been to nor know anything about except the bullshit that cnn and fox puts out... http://bbs.clubplanet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107931 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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