LavenderMenace Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 This is important stuff kids!!!=============================================STOP THE RAVE ACT! FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 6, 2-6 PM FOLEY SQUARE (Center Street between Worth and Duane, across from Federal Courthouse, downtown Manhattan) closest trains J.M,4,5,6 at Chambers Street/Brooklyn Bridge =============================================Senate bill 2633, the RAVE Act (Reducing Americans Vulnerability to Ecstasy) is a vast expansion of existing "crack house" laws. If passed, it will give police and the DEA the power to fine and imprison event organizers, leaseholders, homeowners, and club managers for the actions of their patrons or guests. Although the preamble of the bill mentions ill-defined "raves", the actual law may be applied to virtually any gathering of people with music or entertainment. It is a flagrant violation of civil and constitutional rights, and has the power to destroy our entire music culture. Join Blackkat in front of the U.S. Courthouse and demand that this bill is defeated! FREE 100% legal and permitted National Day of Action-simultaneous events in SF, DC, LA w DJs Adam X and Heather Heart (tag team)-(Sonic Groove) Pow Pow (Blackkat) ESE (Embedded/Def Jux) Chrome (Blackkat) and speakers: Ethan Nadelmann (Executive Director, Drug Policy Alliance) Norman Siegel (former President, NYCivil Liberties Union) Jay Greco (Director, NYNORML, Libertarian candidate for Lieutenant Governor)Andy Gensler (Legalize Dancing NYC) Tim Santamour (Director, DanceSafe) Jason Fitzsimmons (Blackkat) more TBA loads of info, signups,voter registration tables brought to you by Blackkat www.blackkat.org 212-714-4987 for more info on RAVE Act check www.emdef.org www.DanceSafe.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoke Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 I love how those of us who have jobs -- the fully productive raver types that lawmakers want to pretend don't exist -- can't possibly make it out for this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LavenderMenace Posted September 5 Author Report Share Posted September 5 I love how this thread has gotten a whole 15 views while the "Celebrities you've seen in clubs" thread has over 700 but I guaranteee if that act passes, everyone will be fucking outraged. *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cintron Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Originally posted by hoke I love how those of us who have jobs -- the fully productive raver types that lawmakers want to pretend don't exist -- can't possibly make it out for this... oh you mean like 3/4 of the partykid population? The "got a job or i'm going to school to better myself" group who uses parties as a means to relax and enjoy themselves, outside of their time where they help CONTRBUTE IMMENSELY to the society we live in?Yeah...funny how those 3/4 just completely vanish whenever lawmakers and parents groups start talking about "ravers"i love how people impose their own strict sense of morality on others, becuase obviously though we aren't bothering anybody, the mere thought that we might be having fun and doing something they wouldn't, is enough for people to want to ban that, so that we can sit at home and watch Survivor or MTV or do some other equally mainstream colorless activity that's parent-approved, boring as fuck, and "safe".fuck that. don't take my parties away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoke Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Originally posted by cintron oh you mean like 3/4 of the partykid population? The "got a job or i'm going to school to better myself" group who uses parties as a means to relax and enjoy themselves, outside of their time where they help CONTRBUTE IMMENSELY to the society we live in?Yeah...funny how those 3/4 just completely vanish whenever lawmakers and parents groups start talking about "ravers"i love how people impose their own strict sense of morality on others, becuase obviously though we aren't bothering anybody, the mere thought that we might be having fun and doing something they wouldn't, is enough for people to want to ban that, so that we can sit at home and watch Survivor or MTV or do some other equally mainstream colorless activity that's parent-approved, boring as fuck, and "safe".fuck that. don't take my parties away. EXACTLY!!!I would be at that protest if I could... :(LM: I think people tend to ignore stickys... I bet this thread would get more views if it weren't sticky -- and we could bump it if it ever got off the front page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothzane Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 If only we could ban the banners.IT just goes to show how desperate and how clueless parents are....what the youth of america needs to do...in my opinion anyway is to educate and involve these parent activists in the very thing they want to ban....people are afraid of what they dont know....and kids rebel against their parents far too much...if we can all simply get togeather as family as friends...and "rave" togeather....everything would be alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xpander Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Actually, the problem here is the fact that people generally don't understand what the far-reaching consequences of this law is.The people who aren't reading this thread vs. the celebrities thread, let's say, are likely clubbers who sees the word "rave" and dismisses it as probably more of a candy/glowstick ban more than anything. In other words, it'd be inconsequential to them. I still think that many, if not most clubbers, have yet to bother to find out what this law is regarding. Why?... Because it's a "Rave" act. Consider this, how many mainstrean "clubbers" would give a flying fuck if raves got screwed over? Now, erect a "Club" law, and you can be sure quite a few more heads would turn.Then again, let's not forget that many clubs keeps the right palms greased to stay open anyhow. Or, they've the right clientele, so that whatever city it's in wouldn't dare shut it down. In the end, would, or should their patrons even care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crosspatrick Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Reducing Americans Vulnerability to Ecstacy= BolloxIt looks like we will all be making like moles and heading back underground if this bill passes.I see there also trying to make it a fedral crime to rent property to people who use medicnal weed.Dam does cancer and AIDS patients, there nothing but evildoers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunnelbandit Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 I'll be there with my orange VW van,a blanket, and flowers.I will also be handing out granola and watercress samiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 . . . The age of activism is dead . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuturephunk Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 I mean . . I hate to say it, but unfortunately this thing is probably gonna pass, then it's gonna get knocked down because it'll be considered unconstitutional . . . . I'd love to be able to go to this thing, but unfortunately, I'll be down on the Island for a family get together at the time . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyepic18 Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 Originally posted by phuturephunk I mean . . I hate to say it, but unfortunately this thing is probably gonna pass, then it's gonna get knocked down because it'll be considered unconstitutional . . . . I'd love to be able to go to this thing, but unfortunately, I'll be down on the Island for a family get together at the time . . . well, i agree with atleast half your statement... that it does have a strong possibiity of passing... but assuming it did pass, i would very much doubt it ever being ruled unconstitutional.with what i know about other controversal bills (such as the DMCA), the government hates ever admitting it was wrong in passing a law. if it can pass, then generally you cant do much about it.the key is to stop it before it passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyblaze2001 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 that is perfect, i am coming home from school in the bronx and i am gona be taking the ferry, that is right on my way home. i will definatly be there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynkid Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 I'm going to head down there and cover this event with photos and/or video. Info to be posted later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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