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Are Teachers Overpaid?

Some people think teachers are overpaid--I get e-mail about it all the time. Other people think teachers are underpaid. I get a lot of that e-mail too.

I was going to weigh in with my own opinion when I realized I couldn't, because I didn't know how much teachers make--or how much anyone else makes, for that matter, except for a few well-known CEOs and sports stars.

I said to myself, "Get some facts before shooting your mouth off, Tamim." (I learned that from a teacher.)

Lucky for me, the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) researches salary issues. I found their Web site, and here's what they report:

The average American public school teacher, kindergarten through high school, makes $43,250.

Salaries vary from state to state, with South Dakota coming in last at $30,265 a year, and Connecticut leading the way at $53,507.

Is $43,000 a lot, or a little? I couldn't tell, so I dug up salary averages for ten other professions. Here's how they stack up:

Profession Average annual salary

teacher $43,000

assistant professor $45,000

police officer $46,000

accountant $53,000

department store buyer $58,000

architect $60,000

computer systems analyst $71,000

engineer $75,000

attorney $83,000

full professor $84,000

doctor $120,000

I can hear some of you out there saying, "Sure, teachers make less than doctors, big deal. Isn't that fair?" Underpaid, overpaid, it only means something in comparison to how much a person should be paid, right?

But that's a big can of worms. How much "should" anyone be paid? And how do we judge "should"?

What teachers deserve

Is any line of work entitled to a particular level of compensation? On what basis? Are there objective criteria?

I can think of three:

The amount of training needed for the job

The all-around difficulty of the work

The value of the product or service to society

If you use these criteria, doctors deserve tons of money. Their job requires endless schooling followed by a brutal internship … and they save lives. What could be more important than that?

Carpet installers, by contrast, don't necessarily need a college degree, although they do need training and practical experience. If they're good at what they do, their carpets look smooth and stay put--an important and necessary skill, but it's not saving lives. No wonder doctors make more.

I think teachers are more like doctors when it comes to the amount of training needed for the job. Teachers need four years of college and at least one more for a teaching certificate, or two more for a master's degree. Even then, in many states, teachers have to keep taking summer courses to hold onto their jobs. The requirements vary, but in California, for example, teachers are required to clock 150 hours of course work over five years--which they take in the summer, usually, and must pay for themselves.

In fact, teachers need about the same amount of training as architects, engineers, and accountants.

Hard work or hardly working?

I think a lot of the "overpaid teachers" talk comes from the notion that teachers' hours match up with students' hours: Put in six hours a day, head home around 2 PM, and take summers off. Compared to most jobs, that's scarcely working, right?

Hello--news flash! Classroom time is only the tip of the pencil for a teacher. No one just walks into a roomful of kids without a plan and keeps them fruitfully occupied for six hours at a stretch, day after day. Lesson plans have to be drawn up. There go your weekends.

Then there's homework. If you have 25 kids in your class, and each one turns in one page of homework a day, you have 25 pages to read and mark before tomorrow. There go your evenings.

Furthermore, you have meetings to attend--with other teachers, curriculum experts, administrators, and parents. Plus, when kids bring their life problems into the classroom--and they're human, so they do--who ends up dealing with them? That's right, the teacher. It's not in the job description, but a teacher's obligations inevitably overlap with those of social workers, therapists, and even parents.

In his book Small Victories, journalist Samuel Freedman followed New York City high school teacher Jessica Siegel around for a year to see what she actually did, and he found that this teacher put in more than 60 hours per week at her job. It's anecdotal evidence, and maybe Siegal is unusual. But every teacher I talked to felt his or her work week extended way past 40 hours. Indeed, a national survey conducted by the Department of Education showed that teachers spend an average of 45 hours a week doing their jobs.

Saving civilization

Which brings us to our third criterion. How valuable is the contribution teachers make to humanity?

Never mind Mr. Holland's Opus. Forget individual cases. Let's consider the teaching profession as a whole. If doctors save lives, what do teachers do?

Well, let's see. Everything we call civilization has to be passed on to the next generation. Isn't that what teachers do? Reading, writing, adding 26 plus 13, calculating the boiling point of water and naming the vitamins found in carrots, explaining the difference between Turkey and turkey--none of this stuff is in the genes.

Without teachers, civilization would have to be developed from scratch every generation, and man, you can't get too far in one generation. We'd still be listening to eight-track tapes. We wouldn't even have cars! Well, I guess we'd have our parents' cars, but we wouldn't know how to drive them!

So yeah, I guess teaching is important work. On a scale from one to ten, let's give it a nine. (Saving lives has still got to rank higher.)

One ballplayer equals 100 teachers? According to the latest edition of Jobs Rated Almanac, the highest-paid professionals in America are NBA basketball players. They average $4,637,825 a year.

In other words, an NBA player makes about 100 times as much as a teacher.

If service to humanity counts, why should ballplayers make millions while teachers scrape by on a few measly tens of thousands? What do basketball players contribute that's more important than transferring the contents of civilization to the next generation?

Good question, but only because it illustrates an important truth about the compensation for any job. Clint Eastwood said it best in his movie Unforgiven: "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."

Why teachers make less than lawyers

The amount of clout is what it's all about.

In America, teachers started out in a hole dating back to the 19th century. Back then, most schoolteachers were women, and women who worked professionally outside the home were mostly teachers (or nurses) because other careers were closed to them.

Those women were offered low wages on the assumption that they were not breadwinners supporting families. In fact, single teachers were generally assumed to be clocking time while they waited to get married. Those who kept working after marriage were thought to be making "extra income," which justified paying them what amounted to pin money.

Since their options were limited, they had to accept what they were offered. Thus, the prevailing wage for teachers started out low.

Meet and submit

In 1948, when the AFT ran its first salary survey, teachers were making less than $3,000 a year--which is equivalent to maybe $16,000 today.

Unlike plumbers, bus drivers, and truckers, teachers had no right to engage in collective bargaining. Instead, they went through a process called "meet and converse," which meant they would meet with their school board and discuss what they needed. Then they would go away, and the school board would decide what to give them.

But in 1961, a math teacher named Albert Shanker kick-started massive changes in educator compensation. As head of a professional association called the United Federation of Teachers, he called a controversial teachers' strike in New York City.

The rise of clout

That strike gave birth to one of America's major trade union movements. Over the next 15 years, teachers won the right to collective bargaining state by state. As unions took over salary negotiations, teachers' incomes began to rise rapidly.

Today, 80 percent of teachers belong to one of two large unions, the National Educational Association and the American Federation of Teachers, or their local affiliates. If the two unions were to merge, as has been discussed, they would form the largest trade union in America.

Today, teachers' unions swing a heavy stick in national politics. They rank near the top in political contributions, mostly to Democratic candidates. Clout is no longer the problem for teachers--as a group, they've got it.

According to Judy Thomas, Director of Research for the California Teachers Association, teachers go on strike only as a last resort, in part because strikes are traumatic and tend to divide a faculty for years.

Slicing the pie

But the last resort has been reached frequently. The nation has seen hundreds of teacher strikes in the last 25 years. School boards, the opposing party in a teacher strike, don't necessarily believe teachers are overpaid. They believe schools are underfunded. The size of the pie is out of their hands, though: They can only divide up what they have.

About half the budget of a typical school district now goes to teachers. Other employees get 30 to 35 percent. They include administrators, but also janitors, secretaries, cafeteria workers, school nurses, teachers aides, and so on. Well, schools can't run without those folks either. If teachers get more, the others must get less. Or else the money must come out of the budget for books, supplies, maintenance, lights, and water.

A bigger pie

The other alternative would be for schools to get more money.

But where would that come from? Taxes, mostly. Other sources of public school funding are negligible--always have been, always will be.

In California, about 7 percent of the budget comes from renting out school property and the like. An even smaller amount comes from the state lottery, an increasingly common funding device that was pioneered in California. Today, the lottery provides 2 percent of school costs in California. But it isn't the answer. The bulk of the money for schools--91 percent, in fact--comes from state, local, and federal taxes.

If teachers are to get more money, citizens must pay more taxes. That's the bottom line. And a powerful current in American political life has been a demand for lower taxes.

If you start with the premise "taxes are too high," the conclusion "teachers are overpaid" is virtually automatic. The arguments about why they're overpaid come after the fact. "You can't fix the schools by throwing money at them," and its ilk are simply necessary fillers to bolster the premise that taxes must be lowered.

But it's wishful thinking to suppose that we can have good schools without paying teachers good salaries. Comparisons to the good old days ignore the fact that times have changed. Back then, low wages could secure top talent because half the population was restricted to just two or three jobs, one of which was teaching. The best still had to compete to be teachers, and only the best of the best got in. Today, potential teachers--men or women--have so many other options that it's the teaching profession that must compete, against other lines of work, to reel in the top talents. Otherwise, instead of teaching, those top talents might choose to be …

Well, let's see: police officers, accountants, department store buyers, architects, computer systems analysts, engineers, attorneys, professors, or doctors, for example.

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Yeah that is actually a really good support for the whole "fall of the empire" theory about the US right now. I was reading the other day that our economy is positioed for a more drastic collapse than Japan in the 80´s . I miss you Katia!

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There are so many examples in history of empires that collapsed right after their civilization started declining. Morals, values, education, etc...all down the drain...

I think people have the right to do what they want....but why deprive yourself of knowledge that you might be able to use later on in life, or even just to understand the world around us better?

I miss you too Monica! :love:

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Originally posted by monicac

Hey Katie are you in the computer lab? I´m gonna try to call you tonight I guess around 6 your time if you´ll be home....or is your cell up yet?

Writing a paper for Turner! Cell is dead, won't be home till late...let me call you instead...due time I do...

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Turner again huh? yeah hit me up....I won´t be home until later either, I´m going to some photography opening, but try me around 9 or 10 SD time...but I´ll probably be up until at least 11 (1am for me)

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Originally posted by monicac

Turner again huh? yeah hit me up....I won´t be home until later either, I´m going to some photography opening, but try me around 9 or 10 SD time...but I´ll probably be up until at least 11 (1am for me)

Turner again! I will try then..if not, definitely soon.

E-mail me....now everyone knows my name! :tongue:

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